Executed.

[Maggot]

A guy as sound asleep on his couch, in his home. Cops come in for no apparent reason, he's has no criminal history, and has a legally permitted firearm, so he must have passed a check. They kick his couch and as he wakes up happens to show the gun (he no doubt kept close like the rest of us do (I keep mine on the stand by the bed at night), so they shoot him to death. How many of us would react the same way if our door was opened while we sleep. There may be more to the story, but this looks rotten to the core.

Minneapolis police release body camera footage of fatal ...​

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21 hours ago — Minneapolis police have released body camera footage showing the fatal shooting of a 22-year-old Black man earlier this week during a no-knock ...

 

[The D]

I’ve been led to believe that’s these are just a few bad apples…

 

[candyx]

Using a key to open the door caused his death, if they would of kicked the door in he would of been up instead of sleeping. Then he would of had a choice to drop his weapon or use it.

 

[KZP]

Is it confirmed that he was in his apartment? I read elsewhere it wasn't his place, he was just visiting.

 

[Maggot]

Using a key to open the door caused his death, if they would of kicked the door in he would of been up instead of sleeping. Then he would of had a choice to drop his weapon or use it.

Which begs the question, where did they get the key. If the management gave it to them they should be sued as well.

 

[Lug Nut]

Seems like they clearly announced who they were.


Pretty sure I would not be reaching for a gun at that time.

Pretty sure I would be showing my hands.

 

[Lug Nut]

Is it confirmed that he was in his apartment? I read elsewhere it wasn't his place, he was just visiting.

correct, visiting

 

[346ci]

Seems like they clearly announced who they were.


Pretty sure I would not be reaching for a gun at that time.

Pretty sure I would be showing my hands.

Do you think that would be a good idea for someone to use during a home invasion?

 

[Maggot]

Is it confirmed that he was in his apartment? I read elsewhere it wasn't his place, he was just visiting.

I dont know but either way ??? WTF.

Door opens in the middle of the night...

 

[Maggot]

Seems like they clearly announced who they were.


Pretty sure I would not be reaching for a gun at that time.

Pretty sure I would be showing my hands.

When youre sound asleep in the middle of the night youre not always so clear headed. He probably just heard a lot of loud noise and made the wrong reaction.

 

[NoDopes]

No knock warrants need to be banned nationwide. It's not worth it..

Just like our "justice system" (supposedly) to let a few guilty get away than to imprison an innocent.

 

[OldSalty2]

Seems like they clearly announced who they were.


Pretty sure I would not be reaching for a gun at that time.

Pretty sure I would be showing my hands.

Ever been suddely woken up from the middle of a deep sleep?

 

[MarshallDodge]

Riots begin in 3, 2, 1...

 

[acudaowner]

need to secure the front and back door a little better and traps .



lol

 

[candyx]

I think no knock warrants always put the Officers at risk for no good reason at all. Perp has the advantage knowing the layout of the house. Why not wait outside and wait for whom ever to leave the dwelling which removes their advantage. If you watch the video those Officers could of been shot from when they entered the door and walked up to the sofa.Dude could of been on his knees and blasted right through the sofa.

 

[Maggot]

Ever been suddely woken up from the middle of a deep sleep?

I wish I I could get some good deep sleep. Old neck injuries prevent that

 

[Maggot]

I think no knock warrants always put the Officers at risk for no good reason at all. Perp has the advantage knowing the layout of the house. Why not wait outside and wait for whom ever to leave the dwelling which removes their advantage. If you watch the video those Officers could of been shot from when they entered the door and walked up to the sofa.Dude could of been on his knees and blasted right through the sofa.

Puts everybody at risk, but using common sense would take HAVING common sense. Sometimes you wonder.

 

[OldSalty2]

I wish I I could get some good deep sleep. Old neck injuries prevent that

Off topic. Melatonin, and anti inflammatory diet (search), and an aspirin a day.

 

[KZP]

Off topic. Melatonin, and anti inflammatory diet (search), and an aspirin a day.

Also try doxylamine succinate tablets. Over the counter antihistamine that makes you very drowsy.

 

[Maggot]

Off topic. Melatonin, and anti inflammatory diet (search), and an aspirin a day.

I do need to cut back on the acidic foods, asprin does help, but the melatonin leaves me feeling like a zombie the next day.

 

[OldSalty2]

I do need to cut back on the acidic foods, asprin does help, but the melatonin leaves me feeling like a zombie the next day.

Look up magnesium as well. Helps to relax, is also good for regularity.

 

[diverdon]

Seems like they clearly announced who they were.


Pretty sure I would not be reaching for a gun at that time.

Pretty sure I would be showing my hands.

I'm glad that where you live you can be certain that no home invaders ever shout POLICE as they enter.

 

[The D]

When youre sound asleep in the middle of the night youre not always so clear headed. He probably just heard a lot of loud noise and made the wrong reaction.

No, reacting in self-defense when you’re kicked awake in the middle of the night is the correct action. Unfortunately there was a group of people who have a legal ability to shoot first and ask questions after the fact on the other end.

 

[The D]

anti inflammatory diet

Even just cutting out grains(processed or otherwise) and processed sugar(natural sugar from fruit isn’t too bad) will go a long way to making someone feel much better

 

[TACC]

Seems to me, there was alot of people that screwed the pooch here?

If he's just visiting he should keep better acquaintances.
No dog or any type of notification the door is being opened.
How did they get the key and the owner have no idea what is happening?
I've never seen a no knock warrent be executed so quietly with all these LEO'S being so stealth.
And after they got on there the victim is outnumbered obviously just pounce on him without giving him a chance to react to a gun or 3 in his face.

 

[Arc Light]

If they had simply used a shape charge to blow the door off the hinges, the guy would have likely awakened and prevented this whole tragedy

Seriously though, what kind of half-assed police department enters as quietly as possible and doesn't foresee something like this happening?

 

[DocRDS]

Alright to queue up the haters this morning, while this is a wrongful shooting, and we are going to execute a posse on the cops, has anyone asked the question "How was this warrant issued and who was involved in obtaining it"

(1) Victim was not subject of search warrant. And unlike the usual BLM D-bags, this guy appears 100% clean.
(2) SWAT rarely (as I understand it) executes raids on its own volition.
(3) Someone in the Judicial system obtained that warrant.

So while we can go with the traditional anti-cop bs that seems to pervade this place lately--I would prefer to focus on those issues. Whether its the higher ups in the PD, or Judges, or DA office. Seems to me someone put this SWAT team in the wrong place and set them up to fail (intentional or not). Sort of like blaming a missile that kills an innocent bystander. The missile (SWAT) is executing its guidance. Someone launched that missile and input its guidance--there's your problem right there.

And then the idea of a no-knock warrant. Given the prevalence of wrong warrants and wrong places--definitely becoming not a fan.

 

[OldSalty2]

Alright to queue up the haters this morning, while this is a wrongful shooting, and we are going to execute a posse on the cops, has anyone asked the question "How was this warrant issued and who was involved in obtaining it"

(1) Victim was not subject of search warrant. And unlike the usual BLM D-bags, this guy appears 100% clean.
(2) SWAT rarely (as I understand it) executes raids on its own volition.
(3) Someone in the Judicial system obtained that warrant.

So while we can go with the traditional anti-cop bs that seems to pervade this place lately--I would prefer to focus on those issues. Whether its the higher ups in the PD, or Judges, or DA office. Seems to me someone put this SWAT team in the wrong place and set them up to fail (intentional or not). Sort of like blaming a missile that kills an innocent bystander. The missile (SWAT) is executing its guidance. Someone launched that missile and input its guidance--there's your problem right there.

And then the idea of a no-knock warrant. Given the prevalence of wrong warrants and wrong places--definitely becoming not a fan.

Noble.

But like A. Baldwin, someone pulled the trigger.

 

[tylerradke]

Seems like they clearly announced who they were.


Pretty sure I would not be reaching for a gun at that time.

Pretty sure I would be showing my hands.

Bullshit. Suddenly woken up by strangers yelling with flashlights and guns in your face you are telling me you can process all that quickly enough to override fight or flight instincts.

 

[diverdon]

I think I'll wait for the rest of the story. Sometimes a clean guy in a dirty place just has not been caught yet.

 

[OldSalty2]

I think I'll wait for the rest of the story. Sometimes a clean guy in a dirty place just has not been caught yet.

 

[Maggot]

Alright to queue up the haters this morning, while this is a wrongful shooting, and we are going to execute a posse on the cops, has anyone asked the question "How was this warrant issued and who was involved in obtaining it"

(1) Victim was not subject of search warrant. And unlike the usual BLM D-bags, this guy appears 100% clean.
(2) SWAT rarely (as I understand it) executes raids on its own volition.
(3) Someone in the Judicial system obtained that warrant.

So while we can go with the traditional anti-cop bs that seems to pervade this place lately--I would prefer to focus on those issues. Whether its the higher ups in the PD, or Judges, or DA office. Seems to me someone put this SWAT team in the wrong place and set them up to fail (intentional or not). Sort of like blaming a missile that kills an innocent bystander. The missile (SWAT) is executing its guidance. Someone launched that missile and input its guidance--there's your problem right there.

And then the idea of a no-knock warrant. Given the prevalence of wrong warrants and wrong places--definitely becoming not a fan.

No anti cop here. I am anti poor judicial and police work from the top down.

 

[theLBC]

I'm glad that where you live you can be certain that no home invaders ever shout POLICE as they enter.

 

[Jgunner]

I think I'll wait for the rest of the story. Sometimes a clean guy in a dirty place just has not been caught yet.

Since it needed to be said, again!

 

[OldSalty2]

If he's just visiting he should keep better acquaintances.

Obviously more info is needed. Even with that, the above doesn't make sense in general. I'd imagine many successful criminals are good at hiding their enterprise. Could be a cousin dropping in on his way to university. Could be a friend who still knew and was involved in nothing.

Just saying, whatever the case ends up to be, this initial assumption is not logical.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Due process??

I think I'll wait for the rest of the story. Sometimes a clean guy in a dirty place just has not been caught yet.

 

[vinniedelpino]

need to secure the front and back door a little better and traps .



lol

That guy bought a plane ticket and was halfway to portugal by the time they got that door open

 

[10ring'r]

Let this be a lesson to all of us. I sleep with one eye open. Mac

 

[Jefe's Dope]

Alright to queue up the haters this morning, while this is a wrongful shooting, and we are going to execute a posse on the cops, has anyone asked the question "How was this warrant issued and who was involved in obtaining it"

(1) Victim was not subject of search warrant. And unlike the usual BLM D-bags, this guy appears 100% clean.
(2) SWAT rarely (as I understand it) executes raids on its own volition.
(3) Someone in the Judicial system obtained that warrant.

So while we can go with the traditional anti-cop bs that seems to pervade this place lately--I would prefer to focus on those issues. Whether its the higher ups in the PD, or Judges, or DA office. Seems to me someone put this SWAT team in the wrong place and set them up to fail (intentional or not). Sort of like blaming a missile that kills an innocent bystander. The missile (SWAT) is executing its guidance. Someone launched that missile and input its guidance--there's your problem right there.

And then the idea of a no-knock warrant. Given the prevalence of wrong warrants and wrong places--definitely becoming not a fan.

Um, I don't know Maybe questioning your orders to begin with? But that would require some semblance of critical thinking.

 

[Anb618]

A guy as sound asleep on his couch, in his home. Cops come in for no apparent reason, he's has no criminal history, and has a legally permitted firearm, so he must have passed a check. They kick his couch and as he wakes up happens to show the gun (he no doubt kept close like the rest of us do (I keep mine on the stand by the bed at night), so they shoot him to death. How many of us would react the same way if our door was opened while we sleep. There may be more to the story, but this looks rotten to the core.

Minneapolis police release body camera footage of fatal ...​

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21 hours ago — Minneapolis police have released body camera footage showing the fatal shooting of a 22-year-old Black man earlier this week during a no-knock ...

Jesus Christ Maggot. A tiny bit of research and reading more than one MSM article (which clearly intentionally omits important information) before throwing out your own interpretations as though are fact would probably be a good idea in the future.

Minn. PD SWAT was serving a legally issued search warrant. Search warrant was related to a St. Paul PD Homicide investigation.

Local media that details the info on the SW;

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Not enough information to decide yet in this case if a No-Knock warrant was reasonable, but if there was ever a situation where a no-knock would be approved, I’m pretty sure a homicide investigation where probable cause has been established that the culprit or evidence of the crime would be present within that apartment would be it.

This fucking place is worse than CNN some days. Maybe we should all just chill and wait for some actual information?

 

[Maggot]

Jesus Christ Maggot. A tiny bit of research and reading more than one MSM article (which clearly intentionally omits important information) before throwing out your own interpretations as though are fact would probably be a good idea in the future.

Minn. PD SWAT was serving a legally issued search warrant. Search warrant was related to a St. Paul PD Homicide investigation.

Local media that details the info on the SW;

The latest from the StarTribune

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Not enough information to decide yet in this case if a No-Knock warrant was reasonable, but if there was ever a situation where a no-knock would be approved, I’m pretty sure a homicide investigation where probable cause has been established that the culprit or evidence of the crime would be present within that apartment would be it.

This fucking place is worse than CNN some days. Maybe we should all just chill and wait for some actual information?

Ill agree with that. Some days it makes the libtards look reasonable.

I still dont see the need for no knock warrants. As I saw done locally, you just wait and take them one at ta time as they exit. They did it pretty slick, They took the first person out and told them that things would go a lot better if they'd call and get the others to leave to help with a flat tire. Then they grabbed the others . No shots fired, no one hurt.

Be honest, if you were sound asleep and heard a loud ruckus, and with the fog of sleep likely not fully cognizant yet, would you react much differently?

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

It's always best to go in the middle of the night/early morning and wreck havoc. Shooting anyone that is surprised their house is being attacked.
Picking up someone any other time might endanger the police.

 

[918v]

Ill agree with that. Some days it makes the libtards look reasonable.

I still dont see the need for no knock warrants. As I saw done locally, you just wait and take them one at ta time as they exit. They did it pretty slick, They took the first person out and told them that things would go a lot better if they'd call and get the others to leave to help with a flat tire. Then they grabbed the others . No shots fired, no one hurt.

Be honest, if you were sound asleep and heard a loud ruckus, and with the fog of sleep likely not fully cognizant yet, would you react much differently?

When you associate with criminals, you get caught up in their consequences.

 

[Maggot]

When you associate with criminals, you get caught up in their consequences.

That is true but you didnt answer the question.

And I didnt see any thing in any of the articles saying any criminals were found there. Just a dead guy.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

In all the commotion I missed if Deputy Dog got their man and evidence?

 

[Maser]

No-knock warrants are so fucking stupid in general especially when we have read so many times about them being served at the wrong addresses.

 

[Maggot]

In all the commotion I missed if Deputy Dog got their man and evidence?

I didnt see that info mentioned anywhere.

 

[Jefe's Dope]

When you associate with criminals, you get caught up in their consequences.

Innocent until proven guilty. You're part of the problem.

 

[myronman3]

Seems like they clearly announced who they were.


Pretty sure I would not be reaching for a gun at that time.

Pretty sure I would be showing my hands.

as has been pointed out, some criminals use that tactic. waking up to that, no one is going to be able to process it in that time frame. there is a reason they are showing the first clip in slo-mo.

Riots begin in 3, 2, 1...

the anger is more understandable than in the other cases we’ve seen.

If he's just visiting he should keep better acquaintances.
No dog or any type of notification the door is being opened.

there is a whole lot of STUPID in that post. will keep that in mind should (heaven forbid) anyone you know gets done like this.

If they had simply used a shape charge to blow the door off the hinges, the guy would have likely awakened and prevented this whole tragedy

Seriously though, what kind of half-assed police department enters as quietly as possible and doesn't foresee something like this happening?

i have serious issues with no knock warrants. the possibility of things going wrong are too high. when police mentality changed from “protect and serve” to “swat”, things started going the wrong way. the whole invading people’s homes thing; i think people have gotten way too comfortable with it. obviously, there are times it is necessary- such as domestics and violent crime in progress.

overall, i’d say abolish the no knock warrants. what does it matter anyway? I’ll start giving a shit about the small time criminals getting away with their crimes after the REAL criminals get prosecuted (hillary and hunter).

 

[DocRDS]

Um, I don't know Maybe questioning your orders to begin with? But that would require some semblance of critical thinking.

What evidence to SWAT was there that anything was amiss? Now if they missed the validity of the warrant or hit the wrong address--That's on them. But outside the tin-foil hats here, how does an honest person know the difference between a "good" warrant and a "bad" warrant. Based on the evidence presented--there was no reason for SWAT to believe anything was amiss. Thus, my question is "Who issued the warrant and why?"

I would counter that critical thinking requires us to find the source of the problem and not knee-jerk reaction blame cops/victim. Something isn't right in this situation and we are missing key information/context.