Rifle Scopes Experiences with S&B LRR-Mil reticle?

[Mike4837]

I'm looking for opinions, based on firsthand experience, on Schmidt and Bender's newish LRR-Mil reticle. There are features about it that are appealing to me, but it is a pretty fine reticle. How visible is it on low magnifications like 3x or 5x? I have a NF Beast with the H59 and I find it to be boarding on too fine at the 5x. I'm intrigued at the idea of this reticle in a PM2 3-20 Ultra Short or even the classic 5-25x56, but I'm curious how the reticle appears on the low end.

Thanks,
Wolfhunter

 

[Dthomas3523]

As far as I know, it’s currently only available in 5-25 with mtc turrets. The rest of the magnification/turret options wont be available for a few months.

I have a 5-25 with the LRR, and like many FFP reticles, is only going to look like a duplex at low magnification.

The reticle is daylight visible as advertised, so against dark background/low light/low magnification, I can see this being useful.

The reticle from the 2mil mark into the center is very fine. I haven’t tested it changing targets at distance to see how easy it is to “lose” the reticle.

The main purpose for mine is a vudoo .22 and it serves that purpose very well. Small targets typically less than 300yds. The fine crosshair/dot and marks down to .1 mil work out very well for this use.

If you find the h59 not to your liking at low magnification, I don’t think you will like the LRR at low magnification as it is noticeably thinner.

 

[Mike4837]

That is all useful information. Thank you! It's probably more accurate to say that my eyes lose focus on the H59 and low magnification. I think that's more an issue with my eyes than it is the reticle or scope, but I'm just trying to picture in my mind the difference between the two if I had them side by side. I am glad to see hear the illumination is daylight visible. That could be helpful with a fine reticle like that.

 

[bjay]

Anyone selling their LRR yet

 

[plidenbrock]

Dthomas3523, probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway: is there forward emission of light from your LRR when illuminated?

 

[Dthomas3523]

Dthomas3523, probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway: is there forward emission of light from your LRR when illuminated?

I’ll have to check. To clarify, you’re asking if there is any visible emission from the objective lens if someone were looking at (or for) you?

 

[plidenbrock]

Well I didn't necessarily mean it with such ominous undertones, but yeah any visible light out the front?

Awhile back I had my illuminated crosshairs on a lynx and the thing turned and walked right up on me and we stared at each other for a few moments. Never could figure out how he knew I was there, cuz it was dark, I was downwind and concealed under a fallen spruce, not moving. Up here in winter the snow-covered ground combined with the northern lights makes it an eery dusk-like light with deep shadows. It was such a bizarre encounter that I just watched, ended up letting him walk since he got the better of me. It took me a while to figure out what gave me away. Only came over me much later when I had left the illumination on back at camp and saw it out the front of the scope - didn't even know what it was at first. Then it hit me, only thing made sense was the illumination gave me away. Boy did I feel stupid. It never occurred to me that illumination went out the objective as well as the ocular, lol.

So it just got me interested in looking at that aspect of scope design. Of scopes designed for hunting or military applications it is striking how many of them give light out the objective.

That's only reason I'm asking. I'm interested in the LRR-MIL on the 3-27x56 PMII for a do-it-all scope, to include hunting.

 

[Dthomas3523]

Well I didn't necessarily mean it with such ominous undertones, but yeah any visible light out the front?

Awhile back I had my illuminated crosshairs on a lynx and the thing turned and walked right up on me and we stared at each other for a few moments. Never could figure out how he knew I was there, cuz it was dark, I was downwind and concealed under a fallen spruce, not moving. Up here in winter the snow-covered ground combined with the northern lights makes it an eery dusk-like light with deep shadows. It was such a bizarre encounter that I just watched, ended up letting him walk since he got the better of me. It took me a while to figure out what gave me away. Only came over me much later when I had left the illumination on back at camp and saw it out the front of the scope - didn't even know what it was at first. Then it hit me, only thing made sense was the illumination gave me away. Boy did I feel stupid. It never occurred to me that illumination went out the objective as well as the ocular, lol.

So it just got me interested in looking at that aspect of scope design. Of scopes designed for hunting or military applications it is striking how many of them give light out the objective.

That's only reason I'm asking. I'm interested in the LRR-MIL on the 3-27x56 PMII for a do-it-all scope, to include hunting.

Just checked. In an almost pitch black room, it’s very visible at number 4 and higher illumination power. I’d assume anything with better eyesight that me could see it lower.

 

[plidenbrock]

Thanks for checking!

That LRR-MIL seems like a neat reticle.

 

[Dthomas3523]

Thanks for checking!

That LRR-MIL seems like a neat reticle.

I really do like it for very precise work. When I have time, I’m going to rotate it into a prs match.

Currently I have a Minox Zp5 with mr4 reticle, Schmidt with LLR reticle, and a Mark 5 5-25 cch reticle on the way.

Only the Schmidt is suitable for rimfire matches with the close focus.

Going to rotate all three out over the next few club centerfire PRS matches and see how the different reticles stack up.