Guys -
I'm in the market for some new primers. I've about shot all of my supply up. I'm a huge CCI primer fan. I run them in everything except my Bullseye rigs. The CCI primers run great in my Dillon 650 and have always gone boom. I'm happy with them to say the least.
I'm a relatively new reloader, I've only be reloading for a couple of years. I've always used the best components to make sure I got the best results as I was learning or starting out. Thanks to many of you fine folks here, I've become pretty comfortable with what I have and how I go about my reloading.
I had been using CCI BR2's but they've been as rare as hen's teeth in my neck of the woods. In a pinch, I picked up some CCI #200 for my 'emergency reserve' while I waited on primer prices to fall back to earth. Well, I'm down to just a couple hundred primers and have a few matches on the horizon. I need some primers here pretty soon in other words.
I checked the most recent prices and it's still $50/1000 for CCI BR2s!! That's crazy. The CCI #200 are $25.
Grafs:
CCI #200 $26.00 / 1000
CCI #200 $127.00 / 5000
CCI BR2 $50.99 / 1000
CCI BR2 $238.99 / 5000
PowderValley (My personal Go To shop for components):
CCI #200 $30.00 /1000
CCI BR2 $44.00 / 1000
Note: I did not see a discount for bulk purchaes on PV.
I read a few posts on here and Google'd a few and found that a lot of guys are finding very little difference between CCI #200 and CCI BR2 primers. The same thing for Fed 210 vs Fed 210M (in full disclosure, I did very little searching). Some guys mentioned some BR shooter that took high speed pictures and had other fancy equipment to measure the flash from each primer. Anyone have a copy of this ?
Since I had both CCI #200 and CCI BR2s available, I decided to test these out in my rifle and share the results.
I tried to make this as consistent as possible. My rifle is chambered in 6.5CM. I'm using Hodgdon H4350 and 139gr Scenar bullets.
All brass was 2x fired out of the same chamber
I cleaned w/ SS media
FL sized w/ same die
trimmer w/ the Giraud
charged with a Chargemaster (same lot of powder)
seated with a Redding comp die base to ogive 2.222"
All loaded the day before and shot the next day
All components stored the same way
I did 20 shot strings with my CED M2 w/ <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Infrared shields</span></span> and fully charged batteries all the way around.
CCI #200:
Max 2856
Min 2773
Avg 2812
SD 19
ES 83
CCI BR2:
Max 2876
Min 2748
Avg 2812
SD 28
ES 128
If I throw the low and high off and recalculate I get:
CCI #200:
Max 2819
Min 2783
Avg 2800
SD 12
ES 36
CCI BR2:
Max 2856
Min 2773
Avg 2812
SD 19
ES 83
I shot the CCI #200 string first. My method was shoot, open bolt and extract round, record the # in my book, load, fire, open bolt and extract round, record # in my book. So, it wasn't like I was just sending 'em in rapid succession. The barrel was "cold" before firing. After the first string, I went and ran my mouth w/ the RSO (good guy) and then 30 mins later fired the CCI BRs.
Conditions:
CCI #200
<span style="font-weight: bold">67.5 F</span>
45.5 % humidity
<span style="font-weight: bold">29.86 inMg</span>
time 4:50
Alt: 326 ft
DA: 780
12-15ft muzzle - Chrono
CCI #200
<span style="font-weight: bold">63.6 F</span>
45.5 % humidity
<span style="font-weight: bold">29.87 inMg</span>
time 5:20
Alt: 326 ft
DA: 780
12-15ft muzzle - Chrono
Conclusion: I'm thinking about ordering a case of CCI #200 as they seem to be the 'better' primer for me and they cost a heck of a lot less.
What do you think ?
I'm in the market for some new primers. I've about shot all of my supply up. I'm a huge CCI primer fan. I run them in everything except my Bullseye rigs. The CCI primers run great in my Dillon 650 and have always gone boom. I'm happy with them to say the least.
I'm a relatively new reloader, I've only be reloading for a couple of years. I've always used the best components to make sure I got the best results as I was learning or starting out. Thanks to many of you fine folks here, I've become pretty comfortable with what I have and how I go about my reloading.
I had been using CCI BR2's but they've been as rare as hen's teeth in my neck of the woods. In a pinch, I picked up some CCI #200 for my 'emergency reserve' while I waited on primer prices to fall back to earth. Well, I'm down to just a couple hundred primers and have a few matches on the horizon. I need some primers here pretty soon in other words.
I checked the most recent prices and it's still $50/1000 for CCI BR2s!! That's crazy. The CCI #200 are $25.
Grafs:
CCI #200 $26.00 / 1000
CCI #200 $127.00 / 5000
CCI BR2 $50.99 / 1000
CCI BR2 $238.99 / 5000
PowderValley (My personal Go To shop for components):
CCI #200 $30.00 /1000
CCI BR2 $44.00 / 1000
Note: I did not see a discount for bulk purchaes on PV.
I read a few posts on here and Google'd a few and found that a lot of guys are finding very little difference between CCI #200 and CCI BR2 primers. The same thing for Fed 210 vs Fed 210M (in full disclosure, I did very little searching). Some guys mentioned some BR shooter that took high speed pictures and had other fancy equipment to measure the flash from each primer. Anyone have a copy of this ?
Since I had both CCI #200 and CCI BR2s available, I decided to test these out in my rifle and share the results.
I tried to make this as consistent as possible. My rifle is chambered in 6.5CM. I'm using Hodgdon H4350 and 139gr Scenar bullets.
All brass was 2x fired out of the same chamber
I cleaned w/ SS media
FL sized w/ same die
trimmer w/ the Giraud
charged with a Chargemaster (same lot of powder)
seated with a Redding comp die base to ogive 2.222"
All loaded the day before and shot the next day
All components stored the same way
I did 20 shot strings with my CED M2 w/ <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Infrared shields</span></span> and fully charged batteries all the way around.
CCI #200:
Max 2856
Min 2773
Avg 2812
SD 19
ES 83
CCI BR2:
Max 2876
Min 2748
Avg 2812
SD 28
ES 128
If I throw the low and high off and recalculate I get:
CCI #200:
Max 2819
Min 2783
Avg 2800
SD 12
ES 36
CCI BR2:
Max 2856
Min 2773
Avg 2812
SD 19
ES 83
I shot the CCI #200 string first. My method was shoot, open bolt and extract round, record the # in my book, load, fire, open bolt and extract round, record # in my book. So, it wasn't like I was just sending 'em in rapid succession. The barrel was "cold" before firing. After the first string, I went and ran my mouth w/ the RSO (good guy) and then 30 mins later fired the CCI BRs.
Conditions:
CCI #200
<span style="font-weight: bold">67.5 F</span>
45.5 % humidity
<span style="font-weight: bold">29.86 inMg</span>
time 4:50
Alt: 326 ft
DA: 780
12-15ft muzzle - Chrono
CCI #200
<span style="font-weight: bold">63.6 F</span>
45.5 % humidity
<span style="font-weight: bold">29.87 inMg</span>
time 5:20
Alt: 326 ft
DA: 780
12-15ft muzzle - Chrono
Conclusion: I'm thinking about ordering a case of CCI #200 as they seem to be the 'better' primer for me and they cost a heck of a lot less.
What do you think ?
