Rifle Scopes Explore Optics??
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if you dont see anything about them on here, chances are they are shit. Look at the highlighted topic about best optics under 350. How much do you have to spend on glass and then im sure you can be directed to the right thread
if you dont see anything about them on here, chances are they are shit. Look at the highlighted topic about best optics under 350. How much do you have to spend on glass and then im sure you can be directed to the right thread
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if you dont see anything about them on here, chances are they are shit. </div></div>
kinda what I figured but thought i would ask anyway.
Got about 800 for a scope but every saved $ means more bullets.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if you dont see anything about them on here, chances are they are shit. </div></div>
kinda what I figured but thought i would ask anyway.
Got about 800 for a scope but every saved $ means more bullets.
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what are the intended uses for the rifle? How far you wanting to shoot?
Falcon 3-15
Super Sniper
Bushnell
what are the intended uses for the rifle? How far you wanting to shoot?
Falcon 3-15
Super Sniper
Bushnell
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">get the Falcon 5-25 </div></div>
Or put your money in a bowl, and light it on fire....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">get the Falcon 5-25 </div></div>
Or put your money in a bowl, and light it on fire....
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Jason you have a slight brand loyalty. i think actually you are a whore for that comapny outta cali. USO i believe
Jason you have a slight brand loyalty. i think actually you are a whore for that comapny outta cali. USO i believe
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I am, and I do, but USO's are no where in this guys reach, still there are cheap scopes I'm found of, that are actually worth a shit.
I can't afford USO's on every rifle of mine. I have to bargain shop too, and I wouldn't even use a Falcon to beat a Hooker that gave me the clap.
I am, and I do, but USO's are no where in this guys reach, still there are cheap scopes I'm found of, that are actually worth a shit.
I can't afford USO's on every rifle of mine. I have to bargain shop too, and I wouldn't even use a Falcon to beat a Hooker that gave me the clap.
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what would your suggestion be jrose?
USO not out of my reach, just dont think it would be wise to put a 2 thousand dollar scope on this gun. I am very new to the LR game (not addicted YET) and not sure i will be playing a year from now. I know that i can sell what ever i buy, i just think bullets would be a better investment at this stage.
what about WOTAC?
what would your suggestion be jrose?
USO not out of my reach, just dont think it would be wise to put a 2 thousand dollar scope on this gun. I am very new to the LR game (not addicted YET) and not sure i will be playing a year from now. I know that i can sell what ever i buy, i just think bullets would be a better investment at this stage.
what about WOTAC?
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For a starter scope it is really hard to beat the 10x S.S. It has a proven history as a rock solid scope, with decent glass to boot. And at $320, it gives you the opportunity to buy lots of ammo. Plus in a year or two when you upgrade, you will probably be able to sell it for around $250, so it keeps it's value well!
For a starter scope it is really hard to beat the 10x S.S. It has a proven history as a rock solid scope, with decent glass to boot. And at $320, it gives you the opportunity to buy lots of ammo. Plus in a year or two when you upgrade, you will probably be able to sell it for around $250, so it keeps it's value well!
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the WOTAC is a good scope. I would check the for sale boards and see what happens to pop up.
the WOTAC is a good scope. I would check the for sale boards and see what happens to pop up.
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Based on recent reviews, the new SS variable or HD fixed power seems very interesting
Based on recent reviews, the new SS variable or HD fixed power seems very interesting
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is a UK site, good price and pretty fast shipping </div></div>
That is going to look like warranty nightmare if you ever have to deal with it.
The <span style="font-weight: bold">ONLY</span> way you (might) want to get those Chinese many-brand scopes in the USA, is through a US dealer, that will buffer the headaches of the warranty.
Got an email from an "ex" Falcon dealer (he was the first to have them in the US IIRC) saying that he dropped Falcon exactly because the fault rate of those was way too high, and dealing with a guy in UK was a nightmare in terms of time and costs.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is a UK site, good price and pretty fast shipping </div></div>
That is going to look like warranty nightmare if you ever have to deal with it.
The <span style="font-weight: bold">ONLY</span> way you (might) want to get those Chinese many-brand scopes in the USA, is through a US dealer, that will buffer the headaches of the warranty.
Got an email from an "ex" Falcon dealer (he was the first to have them in the US IIRC) saying that he dropped Falcon exactly because the fault rate of those was way too high, and dealing with a guy in UK was a nightmare in terms of time and costs.
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I will tell you this about the Explore Optics. I have always been a big fan of the Super Sniper series of scopes, but never the Counter Snipers. The Super Snipers are ruged, clear, and look good to boot. The biggest drawback to the scope is the fixed power. While I have owned a few of the SS scopes, I prefer the variable power. The Counter Snipers are nothing but total junk... PERIOD!!
I have since came across the Explore Optics line of scopes, and I have used mine to do several box tests and have done a few vertical runout tests on it, and it has passed with flying colors. They are tough, really clear, and repeatable. The retail price of the scope, which is what I paid, was $379 plus shipping. Compared to the $399 price tag of the 10x Side Focus Super Sniper, I would go with the Explore Optics every single time. Also, a friend of mine is now a dealer for them, and can get you an awesome price for it too, considerably less than retail.
If you are interested, just give me a shout. It will save you a good chunk of change, and I am positive you will love it. I am not a dealer, sponsor, or otherwise compensated for spreading the word on these scopes. I bought mine even before I personally knew of a dealer and I paid full retail for mine, and I don't regret it one little bit.
DK
I will tell you this about the Explore Optics. I have always been a big fan of the Super Sniper series of scopes, but never the Counter Snipers. The Super Snipers are ruged, clear, and look good to boot. The biggest drawback to the scope is the fixed power. While I have owned a few of the SS scopes, I prefer the variable power. The Counter Snipers are nothing but total junk... PERIOD!!
I have since came across the Explore Optics line of scopes, and I have used mine to do several box tests and have done a few vertical runout tests on it, and it has passed with flying colors. They are tough, really clear, and repeatable. The retail price of the scope, which is what I paid, was $379 plus shipping. Compared to the $399 price tag of the 10x Side Focus Super Sniper, I would go with the Explore Optics every single time. Also, a friend of mine is now a dealer for them, and can get you an awesome price for it too, considerably less than retail.
If you are interested, just give me a shout. It will save you a good chunk of change, and I am positive you will love it. I am not a dealer, sponsor, or otherwise compensated for spreading the word on these scopes. I bought mine even before I personally knew of a dealer and I paid full retail for mine, and I don't regret it one little bit.
DK
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toyfreak</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what would your suggestion be jrose?
USO not out of my reach, just dont think it would be wise to put a 2 thousand dollar scope on this gun. I am very new to the LR game (not addicted YET) and not sure i will be playing a year from now. I know that i can sell what ever i buy, i just think bullets would be a better investment at this stage.
what about WOTAC? </div></div>
If you want my opinion it is this. Break the bank on optics and buy the best you can afford. Keep in mind that the "best you can afford" does not necessarily mean Put scopes in order from most expensive to least and let that determine the best scope. It means do some research, try to find people near you with scopes you can maybe shoot, find which reticle you think will suit you best, determine if things like SFP or FFP is something you have a preference for, etc, etc, etc....
Now, once you have an idea of your preferences, make a short list of scopes that satisfy those requirements. If there are scopes on there that you just can't afford, eliminate them. If there are some super cheap ones with bad reps, eliminate them. Find a few that are plausible purchases and then take some time to try to get all the info, as well as put hands on them.
If you can afford the nicest scope on your list, it might just take a little saving, then save. Instant gratification does not always gratify... Remember, every compromise comes with a price...
Now, you say your just dabbling right now, and may not want to get to far invested into something that you may not stay into. That's great that you have the ability to rationalize and recognize that, but getting ultra cheap optics that possibly will set you adrift on a tail chasing adventure is a sure way to turn you off to shooting. Think about how much wasted ammo, match fees, range fees, etc. it can cost you, not to mention the wasted money on the optic.
On the other hand, when you buy good equipment, as you've seen here, it tends to hold a high resale value. On this point I say take the advice of, while you're dabbling and unsure, pick up that good deal in the for sale section. You'll get that used price that will make it possible for you to move it later (if you so choose) for minimal loss, sometimes a slight profit...
Long winded but here comes my suggestion, and take it for what it's worth, because this is not all inclusive as I have not experienced every optic out there. Get a Sightron S3. Best bang for the buck IMO, and they're quality optics. If you want matching turrets and want to go the mil / mil route try the Super Sniper. You'll save a lot of money being a fixed power scope, it'll serve your purpose well, and you won't loose much on the resale. Now I've never owned a SS personally, but have a few buds that have, and shot with one. It did the job. Frank seems to think highly of the new ones, so that might be a good option for you.
Personally, I think you should try to find a used USO or NF myself. You won't loose much on the resale if you decide to get out of it, and if you stay in you have quality optics to last you a lifetime.
Remember, to me, the scope is the most critical part... I had a stock Rem 700P that consistently shot .5-.6 MOA with Black Hills ammo. That far exceeds the minimum requirement of "a rifle capable of at least 1 MOA" that is kinda the pre-req for most classes / matches, and it was the same Remmy action some others are building into these $4K + custom guns so I was fairly certain that the weapon itself was dependable. Why would I want to take a 1/2 MOA rifle, and top it with something shitty?
I have personally had 2 separate "cheap" optics fail me at a match, when I needed them the most, and I'm here to tell you, it sucks ass. 4 1/2 hour drive, hotel, gas, ammo, and other expenses wasted. Not to mention the fact that I wasn't able to enjoy the shoot.
Live and learn is the saying, just trying to help.
Jason
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toyfreak</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what would your suggestion be jrose?
USO not out of my reach, just dont think it would be wise to put a 2 thousand dollar scope on this gun. I am very new to the LR game (not addicted YET) and not sure i will be playing a year from now. I know that i can sell what ever i buy, i just think bullets would be a better investment at this stage.
what about WOTAC? </div></div>
If you want my opinion it is this. Break the bank on optics and buy the best you can afford. Keep in mind that the "best you can afford" does not necessarily mean Put scopes in order from most expensive to least and let that determine the best scope. It means do some research, try to find people near you with scopes you can maybe shoot, find which reticle you think will suit you best, determine if things like SFP or FFP is something you have a preference for, etc, etc, etc....
Now, once you have an idea of your preferences, make a short list of scopes that satisfy those requirements. If there are scopes on there that you just can't afford, eliminate them. If there are some super cheap ones with bad reps, eliminate them. Find a few that are plausible purchases and then take some time to try to get all the info, as well as put hands on them.
If you can afford the nicest scope on your list, it might just take a little saving, then save. Instant gratification does not always gratify... Remember, every compromise comes with a price...
Now, you say your just dabbling right now, and may not want to get to far invested into something that you may not stay into. That's great that you have the ability to rationalize and recognize that, but getting ultra cheap optics that possibly will set you adrift on a tail chasing adventure is a sure way to turn you off to shooting. Think about how much wasted ammo, match fees, range fees, etc. it can cost you, not to mention the wasted money on the optic.
On the other hand, when you buy good equipment, as you've seen here, it tends to hold a high resale value. On this point I say take the advice of, while you're dabbling and unsure, pick up that good deal in the for sale section. You'll get that used price that will make it possible for you to move it later (if you so choose) for minimal loss, sometimes a slight profit...
Long winded but here comes my suggestion, and take it for what it's worth, because this is not all inclusive as I have not experienced every optic out there. Get a Sightron S3. Best bang for the buck IMO, and they're quality optics. If you want matching turrets and want to go the mil / mil route try the Super Sniper. You'll save a lot of money being a fixed power scope, it'll serve your purpose well, and you won't loose much on the resale. Now I've never owned a SS personally, but have a few buds that have, and shot with one. It did the job. Frank seems to think highly of the new ones, so that might be a good option for you.
Personally, I think you should try to find a used USO or NF myself. You won't loose much on the resale if you decide to get out of it, and if you stay in you have quality optics to last you a lifetime.
Remember, to me, the scope is the most critical part... I had a stock Rem 700P that consistently shot .5-.6 MOA with Black Hills ammo. That far exceeds the minimum requirement of "a rifle capable of at least 1 MOA" that is kinda the pre-req for most classes / matches, and it was the same Remmy action some others are building into these $4K + custom guns so I was fairly certain that the weapon itself was dependable. Why would I want to take a 1/2 MOA rifle, and top it with something shitty?
I have personally had 2 separate "cheap" optics fail me at a match, when I needed them the most, and I'm here to tell you, it sucks ass. 4 1/2 hour drive, hotel, gas, ammo, and other expenses wasted. Not to mention the fact that I wasn't able to enjoy the shoot.
Live and learn is the saying, just trying to help.
Jason
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I don't mean to jack the thread, but I have a Super Sniper 10x42M I'd let go for $250. It's in great shape but it has been painted. Just a thought! PM me if interested.
I don't mean to jack the thread, but I have a Super Sniper 10x42M I'd let go for $250. It's in great shape but it has been painted. Just a thought! PM me if interested.
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I absolutely swear by mine. If you get a chance to look through a 4-16x50mm, you will be pleasantly surprised. I opted to go with the non-illuminated reticle version on mine, and it hasn't bothered me in the slightest. I really like the clarity, the brightness in low light situations, the 30mm tube, the crisp clicks of the turrents, open tactical turrents (no caps to mess with) the quick zip of the side focus... on and on.
I don't know if you can tell, but I really like the Explore Optics alot. I can also say that I have owned quite a few different manufacturers scopes, up to and including Nightforce. I stand by what I said before, and still do today. When I get my Savage Precision Carbine put together, she will be sporting the same Explore Optics 4-16x50mm TTMD scope that my 10FPLE has on it right now.
For the money... since I am not a rich guy, well off, or even has much in between paychecks... I will purchase Explore again and again. And like I said, I am buds with a dealer now, so I can even get them at alot better price than retail. Dollar for dollar, IMO, it is one of the most awesome values out there.
Keep in mind, this particular scope fits exactly what I was looking for in a tactical/hunting optic. Explore Optics also has a HUGE line of scopes to fit just about every shooter and every shooting opportunity out there.
DK
I absolutely swear by mine. If you get a chance to look through a 4-16x50mm, you will be pleasantly surprised. I opted to go with the non-illuminated reticle version on mine, and it hasn't bothered me in the slightest. I really like the clarity, the brightness in low light situations, the 30mm tube, the crisp clicks of the turrents, open tactical turrents (no caps to mess with) the quick zip of the side focus... on and on.
I don't know if you can tell, but I really like the Explore Optics alot. I can also say that I have owned quite a few different manufacturers scopes, up to and including Nightforce. I stand by what I said before, and still do today. When I get my Savage Precision Carbine put together, she will be sporting the same Explore Optics 4-16x50mm TTMD scope that my 10FPLE has on it right now.
For the money... since I am not a rich guy, well off, or even has much in between paychecks... I will purchase Explore again and again. And like I said, I am buds with a dealer now, so I can even get them at alot better price than retail. Dollar for dollar, IMO, it is one of the most awesome values out there.
Keep in mind, this particular scope fits exactly what I was looking for in a tactical/hunting optic. Explore Optics also has a HUGE line of scopes to fit just about every shooter and every shooting opportunity out there.
DK
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I have done several box tests and full vertical run outs and ins. The scope has passed everything that I have thrown at it with flying colors so far. Granted, I don't use the thing every day for my profession, and I am not military or law enforcement. What I am is more of a weekend warrior of a shooter... it fits the bill for me.
I didn't get the IR simply because even when I had my Nightforce, I never use the IR with that one either. I also use the Sinclair scope level that clamps on the scope body, and I didn't want it to interfere with me seeing the bubble.
DK
I have done several box tests and full vertical run outs and ins. The scope has passed everything that I have thrown at it with flying colors so far. Granted, I don't use the thing every day for my profession, and I am not military or law enforcement. What I am is more of a weekend warrior of a shooter... it fits the bill for me.
I didn't get the IR simply because even when I had my Nightforce, I never use the IR with that one either. I also use the Sinclair scope level that clamps on the scope body, and I didn't want it to interfere with me seeing the bubble.
DK
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I have had it out several times late in the day shooting prior to packing up and going home. It has performed flawlessly for me. I would recommend that if you ever get a chance to look through one yourself, do so. You will not be disappointed!!
Like I said, I stand behind mine. I love the thing, and I feel that dollar for dollar it is the best scope value out there for the weekend warrior shooter like me. I does everything that I ask of it, and has not given me any trouble what so ever.
When I build my Savage Precision Carbine, it will be equipped with the same 4-15x50mm TTMD as what is on my Savage 10FPLE right now.
DK
I have had it out several times late in the day shooting prior to packing up and going home. It has performed flawlessly for me. I would recommend that if you ever get a chance to look through one yourself, do so. You will not be disappointed!!
Like I said, I stand behind mine. I love the thing, and I feel that dollar for dollar it is the best scope value out there for the weekend warrior shooter like me. I does everything that I ask of it, and has not given me any trouble what so ever.
When I build my Savage Precision Carbine, it will be equipped with the same 4-15x50mm TTMD as what is on my Savage 10FPLE right now.
DK
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The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count.
The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
The dealer I know, now has the Explore Optics line in 1/4" clicks as well.
DK
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
The dealer I know, now has the Explore Optics line in 1/4" clicks as well.
DK
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How much adjustment do they have? Some cheaper scopes have almost no adjustment.
How much adjustment do they have? Some cheaper scopes have almost no adjustment.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
Counting clicks is a waste of time.Not only that counting clicks can and will cause confusion........Learn your minutes this is much easier........
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
Counting clicks is a waste of time.Not only that counting clicks can and will cause confusion........Learn your minutes this is much easier........
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
Counting clicks is a waste of time.Not only that counting clicks can and will cause confusion........Learn your minutes this is much easier........ </div></div>
Can i get a amen brother............
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
Counting clicks is a waste of time.Not only that counting clicks can and will cause confusion........Learn your minutes this is much easier........ </div></div>
Can i get a amen brother............
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
Counting clicks is a waste of time.Not only that counting clicks can and will cause confusion........Learn your minutes this is much easier........ </div></div>
Agreed, however, trying to read them in the dark can be a challenge, in some instances you must still count clicks.
On that note, do you recommend going past a minute or three then returning, to hopefully avoid lash?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 467</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with the Explore optics is the 1/8" clicks.
If you are shooting out to 500-800 yards, that is a LOT of clicks to count. </div></div>
Counting clicks is a waste of time.Not only that counting clicks can and will cause confusion........Learn your minutes this is much easier........ </div></div>
Agreed, however, trying to read them in the dark can be a challenge, in some instances you must still count clicks.
On that note, do you recommend going past a minute or three then returning, to hopefully avoid lash?
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I have never encountered forward lash...I have seen backlash in that case yes turn a minute or two back past your zero then up to zero.Imo if i had a scope that had forward lash i would stop using it immeditaly.....I wouldnt call it forward lash i would call it not tracking...
As far as shooting at night i can not comment i do not do it...fwiw though personally i hate counting clicks.I would figure out something different.........Im just saying.....
I have never encountered forward lash...I have seen backlash in that case yes turn a minute or two back past your zero then up to zero.Imo if i had a scope that had forward lash i would stop using it immeditaly.....I wouldnt call it forward lash i would call it not tracking...
As far as shooting at night i can not comment i do not do it...fwiw though personally i hate counting clicks.I would figure out something different.........Im just saying.....
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This i do not know.I have never owned one.Z71rat would be the one to ask.
I was merely awnsering a question on counting clicks(problems with).as far as back lash goes i have seen several different scopes suffer this problem..I am by far no optics expert but imo back lash because of internal tolerences and quality of construction.But hey that is just my opinion so take it for what its worth...
This i do not know.I have never owned one.Z71rat would be the one to ask.
I was merely awnsering a question on counting clicks(problems with).as far as back lash goes i have seen several different scopes suffer this problem..I am by far no optics expert but imo back lash because of internal tolerences and quality of construction.But hey that is just my opinion so take it for what its worth...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: masterwrench</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much adjustment do they have? Some cheaper scopes have almost no adjustment. </div></div>
OK, here is my answer to that question... PLENTY!! Keep in mind, my scope is the 1/8" click adjustments, but a 1/4" adjustment is available now. With my scope bottomed out, there are 408 total clicks (51.0 MOA) elevation adjustment. I use mine out to 400 yards all the time, and it is simple to run up the turrent (less than a full turn) and ring the steel and go back to zero. There are 244 total clicks (30.5 MOA) windage adjustment.
This scope would be super tough to beat for the price in my opinion. I hope this helps...
DK
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: masterwrench</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much adjustment do they have? Some cheaper scopes have almost no adjustment. </div></div>
OK, here is my answer to that question... PLENTY!! Keep in mind, my scope is the 1/8" click adjustments, but a 1/4" adjustment is available now. With my scope bottomed out, there are 408 total clicks (51.0 MOA) elevation adjustment. I use mine out to 400 yards all the time, and it is simple to run up the turrent (less than a full turn) and ring the steel and go back to zero. There are 244 total clicks (30.5 MOA) windage adjustment.
This scope would be super tough to beat for the price in my opinion. I hope this helps...
DK
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seaaggie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so do these scopes suffer from back lash? </div></div>
Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing here. If you are referring to how much a turrent will move past a hash mark on the turrent prior to getting a "click", there is virtually none with mine. To give you an apples to apples comparison, this Explore Optics scope that I have is very very close to matching the Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x50MM that I had.
The turrents have tracked true on every box test and vertical runout test that I have done, and it passed beautifully. I hope this helps..
DK
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seaaggie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so do these scopes suffer from back lash? </div></div>
Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing here. If you are referring to how much a turrent will move past a hash mark on the turrent prior to getting a "click", there is virtually none with mine. To give you an apples to apples comparison, this Explore Optics scope that I have is very very close to matching the Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x50MM that I had.
The turrents have tracked true on every box test and vertical runout test that I have done, and it passed beautifully. I hope this helps..
DK
Re: Explore Optics??
I had been looking for a scope for the interim while I save for a higher end scope and ran across these guys at the local gun show. At this price it's right where I want to be for now. The next step up would be about 700 bucks and another few months before I could spend more money to save of an interim scope.
I just picked up the 6-25 x 50 non IL. I'll be going to the range tomorrow for testing.
Though I couldn't do any parallax testing there the focusing was great. Even at high power settings focusing at 50m or so there was very little to no coma or spherical aberrations.
I had been looking for a scope for the interim while I save for a higher end scope and ran across these guys at the local gun show. At this price it's right where I want to be for now. The next step up would be about 700 bucks and another few months before I could spend more money to save of an interim scope.
I just picked up the 6-25 x 50 non IL. I'll be going to the range tomorrow for testing.
Though I couldn't do any parallax testing there the focusing was great. Even at high power settings focusing at 50m or so there was very little to no coma or spherical aberrations.
Re: Explore Optics??
Bought a 4-10x40 about 2-3 years for my CLE 12MK Mod O .22 (everything the chambering, the OPS can, and the Leupold it the correct).
The optic is better for ME than the Leupold, ( the $1,400) and the parallax only 70yd or so to the Leupold, my eXplore goes down to 10yd or less.
$350 of so, hasn't broken yet.
Bought a 4-10x40 about 2-3 years for my CLE 12MK Mod O .22 (everything the chambering, the OPS can, and the Leupold it the correct).
The optic is better for ME than the Leupold, ( the $1,400) and the parallax only 70yd or so to the Leupold, my eXplore goes down to 10yd or less.
$350 of so, hasn't broken yet.
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