Fajitas anyone?

No thanks. I had a torta for lunch.

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Damn bad way to go. I saw the news and i would imagine it is in the article. Video showed many people coming and picking up people out of the truck. That is bad, hope all involved get what they have coming to them.
 
Ten bucks says somehow Trump gets blamed . Like a knob I stopped at CNN when flippin channels only to find Tapler spewing shit about Trump . All opinion . Then the lead up to Fareeq whats his name and he was spewin the same shit . Even threw Trumps name around with the shit in Venezuela. So this has to be Trumps fault , right ?
 
^^^ Already happened. They are so afraid of getting busted, they are taking bad chances.... And that the Coyotes are afraid of BP so bad that they are mis-treating their cargo....

Yup, Trump's fault.

Funny thing is that the last President blamed everything under the sun on Snowball -- er Bush. Now it's the current President. Kunta-Kinte had no flaws....

Damn, I want to see some libtards in jail soon....

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
Cattle Car??? How about a 53' Ocean Container... delivered to a site in Needles... in the summer... Not packed too tight, I want the last one to really suffer.
 
I have as much sympathy for them as I would for someone that gets shot breaking into a house.

I know they were illegals but. I really feel sorry for the little kids that died. I have worked the border and finding dead kids is a real drag. As far as the adults go? If they came here to work, I would trade them for all the worthless baby factories standing out on the sidewalk talking on their obama phones with their 3 fuck trophys waiting for their EBT cards to get recharged. I drive by that shit every day. I know illegals come up here and are a drain on our social programs but where I live, the only Mexicans I know work. The white trash don't.
 
I know they were illegals but. I really feel sorry for the little kids that died. I have worked the border and finding dead kids is a real drag. As far as the adults go? If they came here to work, I would trade them for all the worthless baby factories standing out on the sidewalk talking on their obama phones with their 3 fuck trophys waiting for their EBT cards to get recharged. I drive by that shit every day. I know illegals come up here and are a drain on our social programs but where I live, the only Mexicans I know work. The white trash don't.

Well fucking said. I'm not sure if some of you are even human fucking beings the way you act out. All most of them want is to earn a living and be the fuck out of the third world. Can you really blame them?
 
The "coyote" is a criminal, some people seem to expect ethical behaviour from the criminal. Im my opinion expecting ethical behaviour from a criminal is a futile endevor. Much better to not allow the criminals to operate thus we avoide the unessary suffering and death. The way to stop them from operating is by enforceing the law. Start with prison time for anyone employing illegals. Dry up the demand and the supply will wither.
 
I know they were illegals but. I really feel sorry for the little kids that died. I have worked the border and finding dead kids is a real drag. As far as the adults go? If they came here to work, I would trade them for all the worthless baby factories standing out on the sidewalk talking on their obama phones with their 3 fuck trophys waiting for their EBT cards to get recharged. I drive by that shit every day. I know illegals come up here and are a drain on our social programs but where I live, the only Mexicans I know work. The white trash don't.

You cant trade them. I don't care if they're here to work, traffic dope, spread their diseases, or shit out a half dozen tax funded future democrats. If some die in the process of invading this country, great. I'd prefer they all die, but I'll take what I can get.
 
Well fucking said. I'm not sure if some of you are even human fucking beings the way you act out. All most of them want is to earn a living and be the fuck out of the third world. Can you really blame them?

I understand what you are saying and my problem with it is ;

1. It's illegal immigration .

2. Illegal Social Security nmbers . Sometimes identity theft .

3. Some have multiple illegal Social Security numbers and collect Welfare in several cities .

4. They are virtually handed drivers liscemses in some states .

5. With the liscense they are automatically registered to vote. ie New Jersey .

6. In Pa and Jersey they have dollar a day car insurance that only covers their medical in case
of accident . If you or I get hit we'd better have full coverage .

7. Their kids are going to school and college on my dime .

I for one am extremely tired of this and want the laws of the fuckin land enforced . I kill myself
to make ends meet and these people are getting the Country handed to them on an EBT card ..
And while I'm at it , its all I can do to not kick the piss outta them whem I'm in the store and they go thru six EBT cards until the find one with cas on it . Just as they are responsible fo. straightening out their countries , so are we and so am I . And I say shitshit's gotta stop .
This is Federally subsixized labor and I call bull effin shit .
 
Imagine if they had put as much effort into improving their country/countries as they did getting into ours.


R

They put that much effort into getting out of theirs and into this one because the game back home is entirely rigged. We're overwhelmingly decent in comparison to other places when it comes to applying the golden rule. I've seen it elsewhere.
 
They put that much effort into getting out of theirs and into this one because the game back home is entirely rigged. We're overwhelmingly decent in comparison to other places when it comes to applying the golden rule. I've seen it elsewhere.

Just how do you think their countries ended up being a complete shithole and what do you think happens when they reach critical mass here? Is it their lack of a constitution that fails them or are they low breed trash? Someone breaks in my house they get buckshot to the face. These invaders need the exact same treatment; it's more humane for all including the invaders.

 
Itsm a conundrum. As Veer says..THEYRE HUMAN BEINGS, and most just want to make a better life. I owned a ranch near the border, I met plenty of them. Mostly decent people. They deserve at least basic human respect.

But they are here ILLEGALLY.

And some of them, the parasites, and scammers, do tax the system. Byut if they werent here a lot of our food would be one hell of a lot more expensive because we have another whole non working class to support who WONT WORK because they get a check from the rest of us.

the only realistic solution I see is to :

-Build Trumps solar powered wall
-If they get in round them up as humanely as possible and deport them after theyve worked to pay for their ticket and round up expenses..
-Jail any who break the law.
-Cut off 90% of the welfare and tellthem there are crops to get in if they get hungry.

That should solve it.
 
They put that much effort into getting out of theirs and into this one because the game back home is entirely rigged. We're overwhelmingly decent in comparison to other places when it comes to applying the golden rule. I've seen it elsewhere.

And they bring whose values with them?

(Sorry, not attacking you Veer. I just think it's a good question that should be answered. How did those places get like that, and who are they run by?)
 
I know they were illegals but. I really feel sorry for the little kids that died. I have worked the border and finding dead kids is a real drag. As far as the adults go? If they came here to work, I would trade them for all the worthless baby factories standing out on the sidewalk talking on their obama phones with their 3 fuck trophys waiting for their EBT cards to get recharged. I drive by that shit every day. I know illegals come up here and are a drain on our social programs but where I live, the only Mexicans I know work. The white trash don't.

I can sympathize with this. I grew up in a farming community. About 10 years after I left, I went back and noticed that a lot of hay handling and such had gone to mechanization. I asked around as to why, and learned that it was labor shortage. Everybody would rather collect unemployment/welfare/fake disability than work an actual labor job. A few of the large (foreign-owned) dairy farms in the area kept getting busted by ICE for employing illegals. So it's a catch-22....Americans feel they are too good to get their hands dirty even for an honest wage, but filling the gap is outside the law.

I've experienced this myself, I've got some property and offered above market rate for work on the property, and I can't get anyone interested in getting their hands dirty.

That said, I'm firmly against illegal immigration. My father in law is an immigrant. He came here and was cut off from his family, built himself up from nothing and fought his way through college expenses. He walked into an Army recruiting station and offered to volunteer to be sent to Vietnam if they would give him American citizenship in return. Ironically, volunteering to go into a war zone for your adopted country does not earn you citizenship, so he didn't go. But he appreciated the opportunity this country gave him to be successful that his home country did not. And it took him nearly 20 years to become a citizen the legal way.

With that perspective, I have little sympathy for those that seek such benefits without earning them. But I'm also human, and can empathize with other humans. I take no pleasure from people seeking a better life dying in the back of a truck. There weren't a bunch of child molesters, folks.
 
They put that much effort into getting out of theirs and into this one because the game back home is entirely rigged. We're overwhelmingly decent in comparison to other places when it comes to applying the golden rule. I've seen it elsewhere.

Of course it is rigged.
Our decency is up to 17 trillion or so.
Like all hosts, parasites reach a critical mass and kill the host.
Giving the cartels a sieve to run their drugs/money game through hasn't been the best for Mexico.

I equate this to giving food/money to Africans.
More children survive and the problem increases exponentially.
The problem is culture.
Failed ideals spreading like a virus.

Until the root causes are addressed expect more of the same.

R
 
It is a sad fact. The border will never be secure. The Wall was just a mantra to win an election. Even if it does get built the drugs will flow as will the illegals. I don't want them here either but fuck it. Right now we have hundreds of terrorist sleeper cells in the US. We either gave them visa or the walked across the border.

No administration will ever do what needs to be done on that border, never gonna happen. If we really got serious about it it could be done in a week. Unfortunately mexicos economy, shitty as it is, would completely collapse in a month. Then we get to play the refugee game. So they will continue to come and register as democrats. After today's vote in the senate and the turncoat republicans keeping Obamacare, it's all over but the cryin'. Get a place in the country grow a garden raise some goats cause hard times are coming.
 
We don't have to keep them out. We can welcome them with open arms.... and at the border have them fill out a form for a 6 month work visa... a tax form... leave fingerprints and strap on a RFID bracelet... and go work! Pay taxes. Send money home. Get a tax refund if you deserve one. Every six months, return to Mexico for a week... come back to the border and fill out another form.

Hell, we can't get enough folks who want to work!

My objection is not their being Mexican... not their wanting to better themselves... not taking jobs from Americans many of whom are too lazy to do them... it's that the instant they show up they are criminals.

Take the criminal out of it by giving them paperwork.

But guess who is against that? Unions... and liberals who want them on citizenship tracks... not coming in and lowering wages and being 'commuters' who can't settle and vote from the grave, so to speak. Oh and congressmen and senator scum who want to keep the issue alive to beat each other with it.

Whomever above said we could solve this in a week is perfectly right. We could solve it with papers, temporary visas, a wall and RUTHLESS prosecution of business who hire illegals... and anyone who shows up illegally.

And when they are coming in legally, they also won't be turning into refried beaners in the back of a Walmart truck or whatever.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 
And they bring whose values with them?

(Sorry, not attacking you Veer. I just think it's a good question that should be answered. How did those places get like that, and who are they run by?)

I can answer that one.

Actually, Ive met and interacted with many of them on my ranch ad by and large they bring a good work ethic and famiily values. Not the gangs, of course, the migrants.

Unfortunately, a small percentage have figured out how to scam the system and are teaching that instead of work.

Question 2-

The same caliber/cut of people who came here and nigh exterminated the native Americans who had nowhere to flee to. Same ones who are now plotting our demise and the rise of a new world order. Greedy, unscrupulous parasites themselves.
 
We don't have to keep them out. We can welcome them with open arms.... and at the border have them fill out a form for a 6 month work visa... a tax form... leave fingerprints and strap on a RFID bracelet... and go work! Pay taxes. Send money home. Get a tax refund if you deserve one. Every six months, return to Mexico for a week... come back to the border and fill out another form.

Hell, we can't get enough folks who want to work!

My objection is not their being Mexican... not their wanting to better themselves... not taking jobs from Americans many of whom are too lazy to do them... it's that the instant they show up they are criminals.

Take the criminal out of it by giving them paperwork.

But guess who is against that? Unions... and liberals who want them on citizenship tracks... not coming in and lowering wages and being 'commuters' who can't settle and vote from the grave, so to speak. Oh and congressmen and senator scum who want to keep the issue alive to beat each other with it.

Whomever above said we could solve this in a week is perfectly right. We could solve it with papers, temporary visas, a wall and RUTHLESS prosecution of business who hire illegals... and anyone who shows up illegally.

And when they are coming in legally, they also won't be turning into refried beaners in the back of a Walmart truck or whatever.

Cheers,

Sirhr

This country has no shortage of low and unskilled labor. We just leave it to rot on the vine. Fix that before Any low skill migrant workers are allowed in.

Fuck it. It will eventually fix itself.
 
We have a country full of low and unskilled labor... which is Constitutionally allowed to sit around and cash checks, wait for EBT transfers and get baked while pushing out welfare babies like Pez-dispensers. But we can't force them to work and the welfare state ain't going away because the Republic has become a nation of the itinerant voting themselves the spoils of the hard-working... so all we can do is hope that business contributes enough taxes through employing migrant labor.... to pay for the lazy, unmotivated and un-employable (who are unemployable, largely by their own choices.) I have no problem with taking care of the truly needy. And those who have earned it (ie. veterans.) But there you go. I ain't Emperor.

But if I were.... I'd work out a deal with Mexico that they take one of our porch monkeys and welfare crackers for every temporary migrant worker they send north.

Or repeal the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments and put the low-skilled back to work involuntarily... Even the Irish! :p

You know, it might just be a winning ballot issue!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
... so all we can do is hope that business contributes enough taxes through employing migrant labor.... to pay for the lazy, unmotivated and un-employable ...

Sirhr

That hasn't happened so far and I don't see how it ever will. I think the sooner we start feeding Brawndo to the crops, the sooner this all gets worked out.