Fake Atlas bipod?

[.30Nate]

I found this on EBay BT10 LW17 V8 Atlas 360° Adjustable Precision Bipod with Adapter for Weaver Rail | eBay

The pics look real but the damn price is too good to be true. I don't know enough about them to spot a fake. What do you guys think?

 

[Drew890]

The seller is based out of Hong Kong, that should tell you everything that you need to know.

 

[Killshot44]

Considering that they go for $220 new, I'd imagine this is a knock-off.

His negative ratings indicate he was selling knock-off Troy iron sights this summer.

Caveat Emptor - I'd pass.

 

[DroidSniper]

It ships from China. Atlas Bi-Pods are made in USA correct? Ask yourself why a product made in the USA would ship from China unless it is a knock off. Though It does look correct. Maybe I'll pay the 54 bucks to find out. If it's a knock off i'll report the seller and use the thing on my 10/22

 

[Six Feet Under]

Too bad they are not cheaper, or I would try one. Like if they were 50 bucks. Lol

 

[Jaytil]

Long thread on this topic and how Atlas licensed their design out to a HK manufacturer for the airsoft market.

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...ipment/189402-how-spot-fake-atlas-bi-pod.html

 

[milo 2.0]

The knurled knobs for height adjustment are different, they don't have a lip. Looks like a knockoff to me. Someone should buy one and give a report on quality.

 

[.30Nate]

I think I might take a chance on it. They only take pp so if it is junk I file a complaint and get my $$ back.

 

[DroidSniper]

I think I might take a chance on it. They only take pp so if it is junk I file a complaint and get my $$ back.

I bought one. Like I said it can go on my 10/22 if it sucks (which I am sure it will)

 

[.30Nate]

I got one on the way. When I posted this they had sold 9 now it's 16. Their junk is selling fast.

 

[msat10]

Would hate to put it on a high dollar rifle in which it failed causing damage to the rifle. But with high quality products causing a lot these days, they probably will sell a lot.

 

[MTAR15]

OK, I'll be the one to say it. Why the fuck would you support these counterfeiting shitbags?

The guys at Accu-Shot (who makes the real Atlas bipod) support our economy, troops and hobby with their American made products.

Do what you are going to do, just don't crow about it here.

 

[Drew890]

OK, I'll be the one to say it. Why the fuck would you support these counterfeiting shitbags?

The guys at Accu-Shot (who makes the real Atlas bipod) support our economy, troops and hobby with their American made products.

Do what you are going to do, just don't crow about it here.

B&T has licensed their products to the Chinese so your anger is misplaced.

HONG KONG– MAY 22, 2012–As part of PTS’s (Professional Training & Simulation) continuing growth in the professional training and recreational airsoft category, PTS Management Group announces new relationships with several brands and in turn launches a new website Home | PTS :: Airsoft Professional Training and Simulation


What began for PTS Management Group as a focused licensing relationship with Magpul Industries Corp. to produce airsoft products has now expanded to include partnerships with a variety of other brands. These include Advanced Armament Corporation (AAC), BattleComp, B&T Industries (Accu-shot Precision Monopod and ATLAS Bipods), Falcon Industries (Ergo Grip), GoGun USA, Iron Ridge Arms, Mega Arms, Rainier Arms, Tactical Intent, US Palm and Young Manufacturing. This new strategic direction will allow PTS to bring new airsoft-compatible accessories to market via worldwide distribution and licensing opportunities with a variety of other brands.


Samuel Lam, Managing Director of PTS elaborated, “This new direction will offer us the flexibility to pursue a number of opportunities to enhance the PTS brand and the first step in expanding our brand is our new website.”


The new site is designed to offer visitors an immersive, more social experience while offering a variety of exciting content. As part of the total redesign are more robust and detailed product highlights and descriptions designed to help visitors see more of what makes PTS products so coveted. Completing the shopping experience is a more streamlined e-commerce component.


“As we’ve continued to grow and expand, we knew it was important to create an environment that supported the PTS lifestyle. By offering a blog, training tips, a link to our Facebook page, and Twitter feeds, we’ve taken the important first steps in supporting the PTS culture that has sprung up world-wide over the past couple years. We are committed to building on the forward momentum we’ve created by continuing to develop and offer training equipment that is second to none”, Lam added.


PTS Management Group is based in Hong Kong. For more information, contact Sam Lam.
| PTS :: Airsoft Professional Training and Simulation

 

[Six Feet Under]

Too bad they are not cheaper, or I would try one. Like if they were 50 bucks. Lol

They are 50 bucks! haha I didn't see that...

Yea, Yea they are counterfeit, but that's how it goes.. Blame our shitty govt and trade policies for that. Not everyone has 300 bucks to spend on a fuckin bipod.. One bipod wont make a difference Nate.. Try it, and if it's shit- then throw it away or put it on a .22 lr Let us know how it works..

 

[agbm]

Knock-off, they will be a whole lot cheaper but Be real careful when it's coming from another country. If you order one, PRAY because it may not make it through customs if it is a knock-off. There is paper work to be done for the custom's side of it, to make sure you get it. So just be aware customs may take it and destroy it, if no customs form is attached to box. It's only your $50.00 and make sure the seller has insurance to your cover your purchase price just in case custom's nabs the package. You will find ebay and paypal can do little if it never makes it to you. Please contact them and ask up front about the customs paper work, if they have no idea run or you will loose only $50.00. Maybe or maybe not, but I know customs will snatch it real quick without paper work. The add talk's about returns and shipping will be on you. I doubt you can ship back to china and do customs paper work and insurance for $50.00. Good luck Remember safety always first,!!!!

 

[Centuriator]

Don't support idiots like this.

 

[Layton]

So that bipod is $54 shipped. Now if the seller is paying shipping to the US through customs and making a profit how much do you think actually goes into the cost of making that bipod? And is that something you feel comfortable sitting out in the middle of no-where with hoping it's as reliable as a real Atlas or Harris for that matter at only another $40? They all break but I'll put my money on something a little more proven. When it breaks I want it to be because I was hard on my equipment, not because someone threw it together with the cheapest available material/labor.

L

 

[TwoGun]

It actually copies an earlier version of the Atlas, the design that is licensed by Accu-Shot to be produced in China. Is a knock-off of the licensed unit.

*First Look* Atlas Bipod Version 8

It's not a piece of junk and functions very well. It is by no means an Atlas, but it's not easy to break. It does need some tweeking like red loctiting the bearing screws after you find the tension you're looking for. It's quite serviceable. The ADM throw lever works very well. It's the best part of the ripoff. The screws on it need loctite, too, but it's damn strong. Overall, it's about an ounce heavier than a Atlas. These were the first guys to sell it in an English website:

http://www.airsoftalien.com/new-201...bt-10-aluminum-4-75-9-0-extendable-aeg-bipod/

 

[sentry1]

The knurled knobs for height adjustment are different, they don't have a lip. Looks like a knockoff to me. Someone should buy one and give a report on quality.

I did buy one to use on a .22LR conversion. Here are my impressions on the one I received:

It's fairly solid, but the little things are where it differentiates itself from a real Atlas. This one will pan, but it has no tilt function (there's no ball & socket on the knockoff), and the right side leg can't be locked in the full forward stowed position because the cutout in the plate isn't deep enough for the pin to engage it.

It works, in a fashion, but when switching from my real Atlas to the knockoff, I end up swearing at how inconvenient it is to get comfortable with the el-cheapo version.

I filed a claim with eBay, not because it's a knockoff (it was clearly advertised as an airsoft item when I bought it), but because it was poorly made. The claim went nowhere, and I was out $60-something dollars.

So, know that you're getting what you pay for with this item.

 

[TwoGun]

I filed a claim with eBay, not because it's a knockoff (it was clearly advertised as an airsoft item when I bought it), but because it was poorly made. The claim went nowhere, and I was out $60-something dollars.

So, know that you're getting what you pay for with this item.

You were out $60 because it doesn't tilt and you had to take a dremel to knock off a burr. By they way, it tilts a little. I bet you still use it.

Mine was worth every penny of the $49 Paypal sent with my index finger. I got exactly what I paid for. As far as I know, it's the company that licensed the design from Accu-shot. I mean how many Atlas bipods does one need to own before they can purchase the Airsoft version which is for all intensive purposes very functional. My guns can barely tell the difference. The kids Airsoft certainly can't.

 

[sentry1]

You were out $60 because it doesn't tilt and you had to take a dremel to knock off a burr. I bet you still use it.

Mine was worth every penny of the $49 Paypal sent with my index finger. As far as I know, it's the company that licensed the design from Accu-shot.

No, the notch for the pin was so shallow the pin wouldn't engage. It looks like the piece was out of alignment when they stamped it.

Thanks for assuming you know know enough to judge me. A kitten dies every time you assume something on the internet.

And I was out $60 because it doesn't do what I want it to, so I don't use it.

 

[TwoGun]

No, the notch for the pin was so shallow the pin wouldn't engage. It looks like the piece was out of alignment when they stamped it.

Thanks for assuming you know know enough to judge me. A kitten dies every time you assume something on the internet.

And I was out $60 because it doesn't do what I want it to, so I don't use it.

No judgement. I've just completely disassembled one and there's not much to it. The index plates, brass bearing washers and bearing screw all come apart very easily. The index tab is completely reversible and it would take very little effort to modify with a dremel (picture if you can post one). Once everything is working red lock tight the bearing screws to a tension to your liking and let them dry. It's not rocket science. Yes, there's very little cant available but panning works very well. And the ADM lever is perfect. Very adjustable and locks tight.

It's not a $280 bipod, don't expect it to act like one. That's all I'm saying. It's not an Atlas, it's not a Harris, but for the price they did a pretty damn good job. Amazing they can manufacture, market and ship it here for $49.

 

[dddoo7]

You all should really read the other thread on this topic. Pts was licensed to sell a version that was LABELED for airsoft only. Anything else is a direct counterfeit and the counterfeiters are stealing from atlas...especially when they advertise that they are a true atlas. Furthermore, American citizens who buy a known counterfeit are supporting their illegal actions and should be ashamed of themselves. Go ahead and tell yourself what you have to to sleep at night, but in buying a counterfeit you are really stealing indirectly from atlas.

Be American! Be proud to be American! Support American companies when at all possible and for sure don't cut the throat of American companies by supporting the Chinese knock off market.


--Daniel

 

[TwoGun]

You all should really read the other thread on this topic. Pts was licensed to sell a version that was LABELED for airsoft only. Anything else is a direct counterfeit and the counterfeiters are stealing from atlas...especially when they advertise that they are a true atlas. Furthermore, American citizens who buy a known counterfeit are supporting their illegal actions and should be ashamed of themselves. Go ahead and tell yourself what you have to to sleep at night, but in buying a counterfeit you are really stealing indirectly from atlas.

Be American! Be proud to be American! Support American companies when at all possible and for sure don't cut the throat of American companies by supporting the Chinese knock off market.


--Daniel

If you'd supply a link to that licensed product, I'd appreciate it. Like to try one.

I've looked for it and have yet to identify the licensed product. Should be the PTS Atlas V7 but I can't find it anywhere.

 

[Ring]

I did buy one to use on a .22LR conversion. Here are my impressions on the one I received:

It's fairly solid, but the little things are where it differentiates itself from a real Atlas. This one will pan, but it has no tilt function (there's no ball & socket on the knockoff), and the right side leg can't be locked in the full forward stowed position because the cutout in the plate isn't deep enough for the pin to engage it.

It works, in a fashion, but when switching from my real Atlas to the knockoff, I end up swearing at how inconvenient it is to get comfortable with the el-cheapo version.

I filed a claim with eBay, not because it's a knockoff (it was clearly advertised as an airsoft item when I bought it), but because it was poorly made. The claim went nowhere, and I was out $60-something dollars.

So, know that you're getting what you pay for with this item.

do you have this one, or the one from the other thread?.. because this one says it has pan & tilt?

 

[dddoo7]

If you'd supply a link to that licensed product, I'd appreciate it. Like to try one.

I've looked for it and have yet to identify the licensed product. Should be the PTS Atlas V7 but I can't find it anywhere.

Contact kasey on here. He should be able to help. I haven't looked for the pts version because I don't think the real ones are too far out of line.

Compare:

Harris: $110
KMW podlock: $25
Rail mount: $45
Total: $180

Rail mount atlas: $205


--Daniel

 

[kyhuntclub]

It might work great and be a great deal however I wouldnt feel comfortable setting one of my $3500 rifles and $2200 scopes on anything made in China. Its probably plastic made to look like metal.

 

[Kasey]

Drew890 - I am the subject matter expert here. Your statement "B&T has licensed their products to the Chinese so your anger is misplaced." is based on what?

In my opinion his anger, as is mine is properly placed on counterfeiters.

To be clear -

We licensed PTS to manufacture and import the V7 which was to be clearly stamped for airsoft, we did NOT license the V8.

This FACT makes ALL imported Atlas bipods counterfeits, violating the law to import, sell and knowingly buy.

PTS has not made any of the V7's due to the counterfeit V8's so you will not find them.


TwoGun and any other members here that think its okay to steal my ideas because the end user gets a "deal", answer me this; A guy comes up and says; "I have 1000 rounds of GMM, I stole from TwoGun, I'll sell it all to you for 100.00." I should buy it and brag about the deal I got right?

You guys really should go and check the other thread posted above and educate yourselves before sharing your opinion and confirming your failed thought process.

 

[MTAR15]

Hey Kasey, welcome to the Counterfeit Jamboree V2.0

Drew890 - I am the subject matter expert here. Your statement "B&T has licensed their products to the Chinese so your anger is misplaced." is based on what?

In my opinion his anger, as is mine is properly placed on counterfeiters.

To be clear -

We licensed PTS to manufacture and import the V7 which was to be clearly stamped for airsoft, we did NOT license the V8.

This FACT makes ALL imported Atlas bipods counterfeits, violating the law to import, sell and knowingly buy.

PTS has not made any of the V7's due to the counterfeit V8's so you will not find them.


TwoGun and any other members here that think its okay to steal my ideas because the end user gets a "deal", answer me this; A guy comes up and says; "I have 1000 rounds of GMM, I stole from TwoGun, I'll sell it all to you for 100.00." I should buy it and brag about the deal I got right?

You guys really should go and check the other thread posted above and educate yourselves before sharing your opinion and confirming your failed thought process.

 

[TwoGun]

Drew890 - I am the subject matter expert here. Your statement "B&T has licensed their products to the Chinese so your anger is misplaced." is based on what?

In my opinion his anger, as is mine is properly placed on counterfeiters.

To be clear -

We licensed PTS to manufacture and import the V7 which was to be clearly stamped for airsoft, we did NOT license the V8.

This FACT makes ALL imported Atlas bipods counterfeits, violating the law to import, sell and knowingly buy.

PTS has not made any of the V7's due to the counterfeit V8's so you will not find them.


TwoGun and any other members here that think its okay to steal my ideas because the end user gets a "deal", answer me this; A guy comes up and says; "I have 1000 rounds of GMM, I stole from TwoGun, I'll sell it all to you for 100.00." I should buy it and brag about the deal I got right?

You guys really should go and check the other thread posted above and educate yourselves before sharing your opinion and confirming your failed thought process.

I don't think you'll find me stating it was OK to steal your ideas. I own several Atlas bipods and think they're a fine unit. I'm sorry I didn't read in the other thread where PTS wasn't producing the unit yet and that it wasn't available here. My bad.

I am sorry that you decided to license a knock-off that has diminished the resale value of my units. I'm also sorry you haven't place a notice on your website about your licensing of the Chinese bipod and how to identify counterfeits so folks wanting to purchase used ones can identify the difference and be assured that what they're getting is the real deal.

Dealing with the Chinese is a slippery slope, I know. I'm certainly glad Surefire, Aimpoint, Eotech and others haven't taken this route and let their intellectual property rights under any circumstances become part of the Chinese domain for Airsoft purposes. Hard to know what's legit and what's not. Pretty easy with those other companies since they don't deal with the Chinese.

 

[KUSA]

This FACT makes ALL imported Atlas bipods counterfeits, violating the law to import, sell and knowingly buy.

Why can't you report these fakes and have the pirates selling them here arrested?

 

[Kasey]

Uhhh, TwoGun you bought one, so you must think its okay to buy stolen property. Cool. So go ahead and humor me with your answer about the stolen ammo I proposed. OH WAIT that's different because that would mean it cost you something... Please read the other thread.

"I am sorry that you decided to license a knock-off that has diminished the resale value of my units. I'm also sorry you haven't place a notice on your website about your licensing of the Chinese bipod and how to identify counterfeits so folks wanting to purchase used ones can identify the difference and be assured that what they're getting is the real deal."

Please take the time and read the other thread, there is no need to be ignorant about the facts behind my decision to license the Atlas to PTS.

Your thought that your Atlas is worth less on the resale market because of my business decision is also mis-placed. The licensed product would have been marked for airsoft, the counterfeits are not, and they are not licensed. So maybe focus you anger there. Please read the other thread.

And for more grins, look at PTS website at the major firearms companies that have licensed them to p[produce airsoft products. Then please read the other thread.

KUSA, frankly the state department does not care because our government does not care. And the FBI could care less as well as the dollar amount is so small... 14 American jobs is easy to dismiss.

 

[woogie_man]

Dealing with the Chinese is a slippery slope, I know. I'm certainly glad Surefire, Aimpoint, Eotech and others haven't taken this route and let their intellectual property rights under any circumstances become part of the Chinese domain for Airsoft purposes. Hard to know what's legit and what's not. Pretty easy with those other companies since they don't deal with the Chinese.


Ummm... might want to look into this before you say things. Having been a VERY avid airsofter for quite a few years, I can personally tell you that most of those companies do sell airsoft licensed items I know a few companies will do this to get their name out there, or like Magpul did with the PDR, to test a proto type before the real thing went into production. Having had one of the PDR's can tell you that it is a great weapon to hold and shoot, but if you have larger hands it is a pain.


Thank you for posting on here as well Kasey. Was looking at these for a toss around toy, figuring that if you were ok with it then I will try it out. And if I liked it would spring for the real version. But seeing as the airsoft version isn't being made, will steer clear and just save up for a real one.

 

[Rattler56]

Maybe it's just the America in me that has witnessed jobs go to carp country's that could give a sh t about
You and me or the profit driven America company's that try to sell more stock by sending
it overseas and increasing there profits.

I understand that we are a free market country however,I buy American when ever I can,
there was a time that I would buy a Toyota pickup due to the fact that
America trucks were lacking, they got the message and now Chevy, Ford and Dodge are spot on.

Moral is the decisions you make affect others, so look at the big picture when you buy.

 

[Layton]

I am sorry that you decided to license a knock-off that has diminished the resale value of my units.

Are you seriously trying to use that argument as reasoning to buy a counterfeit? Kinda like that guy in another thread that's pissed off cause he can't hunt on property he doesn't own and doesn't have permission to be on.

I'm certainly glad Surefire, Aimpoint, Eotech and others haven't taken this route and let their intellectual property rights under any circumstances become part of the Chinese domain for Airsoft purposes. Hard to know what's legit and what's not. Pretty easy with those other companies since they don't deal with the Chinese.

As far as there not being knockoffs of the companies you listed, have you cruised google lately? There sure are a lot of videos on youtube on how to spot those same products that are getting copied by the Chinese. So you're barking out your ass.

Eotech Buyer Beware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCH0Xm_sKpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMuGG8ZTJ80

 

[KUSA]

frankly the state department does not care because our government does not care. And the FBI could care less as well as the dollar amount is so small... 14 American jobs is easy to dismiss.

This is a very large problem. It doesn't just affect the 14 jobs you mentioned. It affects millions.
It would make sense that all the company's that are ripped off would get together and lobby Congress or take some other legal action. You couldn't possibly fight this alone.

 

[TwoGun]

Uhhh, TwoGun you bought one, so you must think its okay to buy stolen property. Cool. So go ahead and humor me with your answer about the stolen ammo I proposed. OH WAIT that's different because that would mean it cost you something... Please read the other thread.

"I am sorry that you decided to license a knock-off that has diminished the resale value of my units. I'm also sorry you haven't place a notice on your website about your licensing of the Chinese bipod and how to identify counterfeits so folks wanting to purchase used ones can identify the difference and be assured that what they're getting is the real deal."

Please take the time and read the other thread, there is no need to be ignorant about the facts behind my decision to license the Atlas to PTS.

Your thought that your Atlas is worth less on the resale market because of my business decision is also mis-placed. The licensed product would have been marked for airsoft, the counterfeits are not, and they are not licensed. So maybe focus you anger there. Please read the other thread.

And for more grins, look at PTS website at the major firearms companies that have licensed them to p[produce airsoft products. Then please read the other thread.

KUSA, frankly the state department does not care because our government does not care. And the FBI could care less as well as the dollar amount is so small... 14 American jobs is easy to dismiss.

Is this the website you're describing?

Home | PTS :: Airsoft Professional Training and Simulation

I'm having trouble locating the list of companies that do business with these guys. If you could provide a more direct link, I'd appreciate it.

 

[NevadaZielmeister]

I got one on the way. When I posted this they had sold 9 now it's 16. Their junk is selling fast.

You are an idiot.

You also support theft and conversion of intellectual property rights. I would hope that you never post on Sniper's Hide again because you believe it is okay to support people who steal from American companies that deserve our business. People on this site believe in honest and truthful behavior and you are not one of them.

Maybe.. maybe.. if you returned the item and then wrote an apology to Kasey for stealing from him, his company, his employees and his children, then you might be okay with us. Otherwise, get lost. There is little room for people like you.

 

[.30Nate]

You are an idiot.

You also support theft and conversion of intellectual property rights. I would hope that you never post on Sniper's Hide again because . People on this site believe in honest and truthful behavior and you are not one of them.

Maybe.. maybe.. if you returned the item and then wrote an apology to Kasey for stealing from him, his company, his employees and his children, then you might be okay with us. Otherwise, get lost. There is little room for people like you.

Easy there slick Rick
At the time I ordered this piece of shit I had no idea where Atlas products were made or anything else about the company. I'm just getting started in shooting and heard all my buddies say "you need to buy this and that" an Atlas was one of the things they mentioned. I found one and bought it, it's that simple. I didn't know or intend to fuck Kassey, Atlas or anyone else!! Is my ignorance to blame, YES 100%, do I feel like a fuck about it, YES 100%.

"You also support theft and conversion of intellectual property rights." That statement is not true and you can go fuck yourself. <------- "That was my honest and truthful behavior" that you are so support!

"you believe it is okay to support people who steal from American companies that deserve our business" That statement is not true and you can go fuck yourself, again.<------- "That was my honest and truthful behavior" that you are so support!
I have purchased a rifle from Remington, chassis from Mcrees Precision, stock pack from Triad Tactical and some glass from SWFA. All in the last month.

I do intend to call Kassey and explain things to him and try to right my wrong it I ever get off work at a normal time.

So please forgive me for my one fuck up!

 

[NevadaZielmeister]

Easy there slick Rick
At the time I ordered this piece of shit I had no idea where Atlas products were made or anything else about the company. I'm just getting started in shooting and heard all my buddies say "you need to buy this and that" an Atlas was one of the things they mentioned. I found one and bought it, it's that simple. I didn't know or intend to fuck Kassey, Atlas or anyone else!! Is my ignorance to blame, YES 100%, do I feel like a fuck about it, YES 100%.

"You also support theft and conversion of intellectual property rights." That statement is not true and you can go fuck yourself. <------- "That was my honest and truthful behavior" that you are so support!

"you believe it is okay to support people who steal from American companies that deserve our business" That statement is not true and you can go fuck yourself, again.<------- "That was my honest and truthful behavior" that you are so support!
I have purchased a rifle from Remington, chassis from Mcrees Precision, stock pack from Triad Tactical and some glass from SWFA. All in the last month.

I do intend to call Kassey and explain things to him and try to right my wrong it I ever get off work at a normal time.

So please forgive me for my one fuck up!

Thank you for the discussion. I am glad you admit your errors. That takes a man to do that and I am glad to see you did man up. Thank you for that. As for the other comments, let us be respectful. I admit I started out the conversation as "You are an idiot" and that was wrong of me, so I apologize for that.

Integrity is a big thing with me and so I reacted strongly, too strongly, actually. In order to keep the thread on track, just PM me if you have any other concerns. I am cool with that. I did not take offense to your comments and am glad we could get an understanding.

Meanwhile, welcome to the sport of long range shooting and Sniper's Hide.

 

[TwoGun]

The personal attacks are getting old. Personally, I don't like anything Airsoft. I think it should all be banned especially anything replica.

Now, the problem as I see it isn't that it's a replica of unusable quality, it's that it's a copy with 90% functionality of the authentic item for $49 shipped. That doesn't mean to say that it's 90% as strong, that it isn't. But for the average Joe, who is gentle on equipment, he's not going to know any difference. None, zero. It's pretty much the difference between a Blackhawk harris type bipod and the Harris bipod itself. Only here instead of double the price, you have a 90% functional item at 20% the cost of the authentic item.

I personally disagree with American firearm companies making deals with the Chinese to make licensed Airsoft copies with the functionality of the original. I run into a lot of Airsoft shit that works on AR-15 platforms being sold at Gunshows and is pisses me off. It's all crap and none of it should be in this country.

I feel bad for Accu-Shot that this stuff is entering the country. But his licensing agreement cheapens the product and creates confusion (I don't give a shit if there's tons of companies doing it). That's my personal opinion. I'm the consumer and nothing can be said that's going to change my opinion on that.

I look at the PTS website and it makes me fucking angry. None of that copied licensed shit should be allowed here because the Chinese aren't going to do jack shit about the myriad of other companies ripping off the licensed shit. It all comes here and you can't tell the real thing from the original.

I remember a time when American tools were great and nearly everything was good quality. Now thanks to the Chinese every tool out there is shit because companies have to compete with Harbor Freight for Average Joe's dollar. It's like that with everything. Everything is shit because the fucking Chinese can produce a workable copy at a 1/5 of the cost. So what if it breaks, just buy another.

So the solution is to make a deal with the Chinese in hopes the Chinese company will enforce it's licensing rights. Good luck with that horseshit. I was taught this little axiom when I was very young. You sleep with dogs, you get fleas. Applies to everything.

 

[Six Feet Under]

.30Nate,
If the bipod sucks, maybe they will make for some nice chop sticks????

 

[Kevin 53]

B&T Industries has just started The Wright Project. It is for folks that thought they were buying a real atlas bipod to help get a real atlas bipod. Go to accu-shot.com and click on the red tab The Wright Project. I don't want to tell folks wrong so go check it out. It's good of them to help folks like myself. I hate to say this but I paid 225.00 for a fake.

Kevin