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Who was the first person you voted for to be president?
Actually a great question and I'll give a serious answer. I've not liked any single candidate. Not one. The entrenchment of a two party system essentially codifies ideologies into the political system regardless of whether the times/circumstances of the country is aligned with either one. It's square peg, round hole and that dysfunction, that perennial failure in governance breeds extremism of ideology because simple minded people who associate their identities with those ideologies determine. "we need more of the ideology in more virulent form'. Hence the lunacy we see on both sides. Look at the successive stances of both sides over the elections to see for your yourself.

Personally, I moved away from thinking ideology based governance could solve anything. Reagan raised the debt ceiling 11 times, cut and run from the middle east after a single and large loss of life event and did nothing for the average American and it went on from there. I did like Yang, or rather, I was excited by someone who wanted to take a look at 'what's the actual problem' rather than, 'I belong to this party and so therefore I believe this..".

I vote green. The single best thing about USA is the country and the national parks and country-side. I hunt, fish, hike and mountain bike. Being able to raise my boys to appreciate these things has been one of the best things about being a father and I hate how both sides are whores to energy lobbyists and other industries and they're systemmatically destroying this country - literally, not some ideological Walter Mitty bullshit that most seem to think is happening (I say that about both sides, not just the loons here). The vapid bitch who won in Wyoming is going to fuck en masse a global treasure of a state and people here celebrate that.
 
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snip.....I‘m starting on a tangent, so I’ll ask you this: Why are you here? This is “Sniper’s Hide”. By definition, a sniper is a government agent or a criminal. The way you post, they are one in the same. If that’s the case, why would you associate yourself with such a group? I’m genuinely asking, though I expect you’ll just call me names and beat your own chest in satisfaction of winning a contest that isn’t a competition.
You really believe that the members here are all “snipers”. 🤭 I’m embarrassed for you.

You haven’t read many of my posts if you think I resort to blind name calling like so many do. I have taken pot shots like that in response to others that do it kind of like you did me in another thread but it is always surrounded with dialogue that either furthers or clarifies my point. Whether you agree or disagree with what I have to say, I always explain my perspective and thoughts. I do admit to being susceptible to name calling in the past. It’s stupid.

I do believe all government employees are part of the largest criminal organization in the nation and one of the largest in the world because they are. I also believe and have said many times that most of the 24,000,000 are ignorant of this. The few men at the highest levels of government are truly evil men that force their will on the rest of us with the help of those underneath them. The end results are the same regardless if those involved are clueless or complicit.

I also understand that some things coming from gov’t are decent or helpful in of itself. This doesn’t compare to or erase the atrocities committed on it’s behalf. You are one of many who respond to the mass murder and theft of government with “but we have paved roads.” It’s the most nonsensical argument in favor of an authoritarian bloated gov’t that preys violently upon those it rules over with the help of the clueless and the anything for a paycheck types.
 
For a tranny you sure are angry. Why does Trump piss off trannies so much?
Hey Bender, you know in English (the real language, not the inbred retard orgy product you call English) 'bender' is slang for faggot. Explains why you and your husband are so informed on all things tranny.
 
Omg.

Gayyyyyyyyyyyy

You must be the dude who gave UtdManiac Monkeypox

Your homosexual fantasies are yours alone. I’m sorry you lack the ability to respond coherently or with anything meaningful. Somehow, you’ve managed to show yourself to be one of the dumbest posters I’ve seen. Quite impressive. Even @wade2big can form complete sentences and isn’t stuck on dick.
 
Your homosexual fantasies are yours alone. I’m sorry you lack the ability to respond coherently or with anything meaningful. Somehow, you’ve managed to show yourself to be one of the dumbest posters I’ve seen. Quite impressive. Even @wade2big can form complete sentences and isn’t stuck on dick.
I’m gonna take that as a compliment.
 
Your homosexual fantasies are yours alone. I’m sorry you lack the ability to respond coherently or with anything meaningful. Somehow, you’ve managed to show yourself to be one of the dumbest posters I’ve seen. Quite impressive. Even @wade2big can form complete sentences and isn’t stuck on dick.
You did great @ nothing. And the fact you had to respond (and couldn't chill the F out) means your either full of shit with your "story" and are a soy eating turd or your a dude with chick feelings, which means IF your story was true, they paid for your reassignment surgery.

This is the Bear Pit. Grow a pair. Suck Ass
 
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You really believe that the members here are all “snipers”. 🤭 I’m embarrassed for you.

I never believed everyone here was a sniper. I’m not sure how you read what I posted and came to that conclusion. My post was in regard to your associating yourself with such people, who are either government agents or criminals.

You haven’t read many of my posts if you think I resort to blind name calling like so many do. I have taken pot shots like that in response to others that do it kind of like you did me in another thread but it is always surrounded with dialogue that either furthers or clarifies my point. Whether you agree or disagree with what I have to say, I always explain my perspective and thoughts. I do admit to being susceptible to name calling in the past. It’s stupid.

I don’t believe you’ve come to the conclusions you have based on nothing. You’ve had your experiences and they shape your views. What I don’t understand is how you can completely disregard others’ experiences.
I do believe all government employees are part of the largest criminal organization in the nation and one of the largest in the world because they are. I also believe and have said many times that most of the 24,000,000 are ignorant of this. The few men at the highest levels of government are truly evil men that force their will on the rest of us with the help of those underneath them. The end results are the same regardless if those involved are clueless or complicit.

Putting all of government into one group is too large to be meaningful. There are absolutely corrupt individuals, in government, at all levels. Some agencies/departments may be full of corrupt individuals, but that’s very limited and more unlikely as the size of the organization grows.

If the other “24,000,000 are ignorant”, how do you hold them responsible? Generally, the corrupt people try to hide their crimes and most crimes are never reported/known, let alone investigated and supported by evidence to attempt prosecution.

I also understand that some things coming from gov’t are decent or helpful in of itself. This doesn’t compare to or erase the atrocities committed on it’s behalf. You are one of many who respond to the mass murder and theft of government with “but we have paved roads.” It’s the most nonsensical argument in favor of an authoritarian bloated gov’t that preys violently upon those it rules over with the help of the clueless and the anything for a paycheck types.

You lost me at, “You are one of many who respond to the mass murder and theft of government with ‘but we have paved roads’”. Where did I justify the bad things done by a government employee by bringing this up? I pointed out that tax dollars fund roads, but as an argument that blanket hate of government employees should include these people, too, which I find ridiculous.
 
You did great @ nothing. And the fact you had to respond (and couldn't chill the F out) means your either full of shit with your "story" and are a soy eating turd or your a dude with chick feelings, which means IF your story was true, they paid for your reassignment surgery.

This is the Bear Pit. Grow a pair. Suck Ass

Responding to someone who quotes me is unexpected? Really? What does that make the kind of person who initially quotes a post they weren’t originally a part of?

My “story” ended up on several crime documentary shows. I use the same screen name on every forum I’m on. It’s findable.

The rest is completely off base, in regard to me, but I understand the need to project yourself onto others.


Ah, you are correct in that I did not respond appropriately, for The Bear Pit.

Let‘s give this a shot:

When I finish on your mom’s face, it’s annoying how you rush in to lick it up between eating you own turds.
 
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Responding to someone who quotes me is unexpected? Really? What does that make the kind of person who initially quotes a post they weren’t originally a part of?

My “story” ended up on several crime documentary shows. I use the same screen name on every forum I’m on. It’s findable.

The rest is completely off base, in regard to me, but I understand the need to project yourself onto others.


Ah, you are correct in that I did not respond appropriately, for The Bear Pit.

Let‘s give this a shot:

When I finish on your mom’s face, it’s annoying how you rush in to lick it up between eating you own turds.
😆 🤣 😂

You've got the thinnest skin ive seen. You sure you don't know Choid or some of the others in here?

The need for validation and praise is getting boring. I think your in the wrong place. Go home, your drunk.
 
😆 🤣 😂

You've got the thinnest skin ive seen. You sure you don't know Choid or some of the others in here?

The need for validation and praise is getting boring. I think your in the wrong place. Go home, your drunk.

What‘s it like to never be correct? I’ve had more than my share of failures, but you’ve managed to eclipse my lowest moments.
 
this might be @wade2big :p

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Actually a great question and I'll give a serious answer. I've not liked any single candidate. Not one. The entrenchment of a two party system essentially codifies ideologies into the political system regardless of whether the times/circumstances of the country is aligned with either one. It's square peg, round hole and that dysfunction, that perennial failure in governance breeds extremism of ideology because simple minded people who associate their identities with those ideologies determine. "we need more of the ideology in more virulent form'. Hence the lunacy we see on both sides. Look at the successive stances of both sides over the elections to see for your yourself.

Personally, I moved away from thinking ideology based governance could solve anything. Reagan raised the debt ceiling 11 times, cut and run from the middle east after a single and large loss of life event and did nothing for the average American and it went on from there. I did like Yang, or rather, I was excited by someone who wanted to take a look at 'what's the actual problem' rather than, 'I belong to this party and so therefore I believe this..".

I vote green. The single best thing about USA is the country and the national parks and country-side. I hunt, fish, hike and mountain bike. Being able to raise my boys to appreciate these things has been one of the best things about being a father and I hate how both sides are whores to energy lobbyists and other industries and they're systemmatically destroying this country - literally, not some ideological Walter Mitty bullshit that most seem to think is happening (I say that about both sides, not just the loons here). The vapid bitch who won in Wyoming is going to fuck en masse a global treasure of a state and people here celebrate that.
So you're a communist. Got it.
 
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That actually sums up what I've seen em post. It also brings up a good point, at any times these fuck stains can start acting like they give a rats ass about the US.... but I just don't see that happening this late in the game.
meh.... they'll put me in an oven without a seconds hesitation.
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That actually sums up what I've seen em post. It also brings up a good point, at any times these fuck stains can start acting like they give a rats ass about the US.... but I just don't see that happening this late in the game.
i said this before, but a lot of whistleblowers got fucked over under obama. we don't really know how many tried and died.
 
Actually a great question and I'll give a serious answer. I've not liked any single candidate. Not one. The entrenchment of a two party system essentially codifies ideologies into the political system regardless of whether the times/circumstances of the country is aligned with either one. It's square peg, round hole and that dysfunction, that perennial failure in governance breeds extremism of ideology because simple minded people who associate their identities with those ideologies determine. "we need more of the ideology in more virulent form'. Hence the lunacy we see on both sides. Look at the successive stances of both sides over the elections to see for your yourself.

Personally, I moved away from thinking ideology based governance could solve anything. Reagan raised the debt ceiling 11 times, cut and run from the middle east after a single and large loss of life event and did nothing for the average American and it went on from there. I did like Yang, or rather, I was excited by someone who wanted to take a look at 'what's the actual problem' rather than, 'I belong to this party and so therefore I believe this..".

I vote green. The single best thing about USA is the country and the national parks and country-side. I hunt, fish, hike and mountain bike. Being able to raise my boys to appreciate these things has been one of the best things about being a father and I hate how both sides are whores to energy lobbyists and other industries and they're systemmatically destroying this country - literally, not some ideological Walter Mitty bullshit that most seem to think is happening (I say that about both sides, not just the loons here). The vapid bitch who won in Wyoming is going to fuck en masse a global treasure of a state and people here celebrate that.
Thanks for putting so much effort into my question. I missed the answer though. Who was the first person you voted for to be the president?
 
Actually a great question and I'll give a serious answer. I've not liked any single candidate. Not one. The entrenchment of a two party system essentially codifies ideologies into the political system regardless of whether the times/circumstances of the country is aligned with either one. It's square peg, round hole and that dysfunction, that perennial failure in governance breeds extremism of ideology because simple minded people who associate their identities with those ideologies determine. "we need more of the ideology in more virulent form'. Hence the lunacy we see on both sides. Look at the successive stances of both sides over the elections to see for your yourself.

Personally, I moved away from thinking ideology based governance could solve anything. Reagan raised the debt ceiling 11 times, cut and run from the middle east after a single and large loss of life event and did nothing for the average American and it went on from there. I did like Yang, or rather, I was excited by someone who wanted to take a look at 'what's the actual problem' rather than, 'I belong to this party and so therefore I believe this..".

I vote green. The single best thing about USA is the country and the national parks and country-side. I hunt, fish, hike and mountain bike. Being able to raise my boys to appreciate these things has been one of the best things about being a father and I hate how both sides are whores to energy lobbyists and other industries and they're systemmatically destroying this country - literally, not some ideological Walter Mitty bullshit that most seem to think is happening (I say that about both sides, not just the loons here). The vapid bitch who won in Wyoming is going to fuck en masse a global treasure of a state and people here celebrate that.
This is a total cop out. Per your last statement the destruction is upon you and you're going to go hide and pretend that the world collapsing around you isn't happening.... Put your money where your mouth is and run for office yourself. Being apathetic while complaining about it doesn't make you any less responsible as a citizen, it makes you a coward. We ALL share much of the same sentiment and disappointment concerning every elected official EVER. But to pretend we are doing ourselves or the future generations any justice by laying down and refusing to participate - which is what voting for the Green Party is - is pointless. This is the battlefield of ideas and we must participate, even if it just to educate those around us.
 
This is a total cop out. Per your last statement the destruction is upon you and you're going to go hide and pretend that the world collapsing around you isn't happening.... Put your money where your mouth is and run for office yourself. Being apathetic while complaining about it doesn't make you any less responsible as a citizen, it makes you a coward. We ALL share much of the same sentiment and disappointment concerning every elected official EVER. But to pretend we are doing ourselves or the future generations any justice by laying down and refusing to participate - which is what voting for the Green Party is - is pointless. This is the battlefield of ideas and we must participate, even if it just to educate those around us.
No, it really isn't and you're making an assumption on my apathy which is inaccurate and rash. I vote and am active to support the causes that I care about, regardless of what the 'pragmatic' vote would be. To me, the pragmatic vote is to perpetuate the unacceptable. Some people in Texax might hate Cruz but they see him as the pragmatic vote. I see him as a slimey turd after a particularly radioactive Indian meal and could never vote for him.

I do participate, on my terms, along my conscious, not yours or anyone else's. That's my right as an American.
 
I become a citizen in 2012 so it was Jill Stein. I imagine in that election you all voted McCain/FuckwitFromAlaska. We both ended up even.
Welcome to America!

Did you ever think about how your vote being different than the bulk of the population that made this country the kind of place you wanted to live was counterproductive? Hard for me to imagine showing up somewhere that provided me with unlimited possibilities and telling them they're doing it wrong.
 
Welcome to America!

Did you ever think about how your vote being different than the bulk of the population that made this country the kind of place you wanted to live was counterproductive? Hard for me to imagine showing up somewhere that provided me with unlimited possibilities and telling them they're doing it wrong.
Thank you! Great to be here.

Fair question, but i'll challenge your assumptions as to what made this country what it is today. Throughtout the history of these United States, the single consistency (other than corruption) has been the seamless and peaceful transition of power. That above all else is what has enabled consistent growth in investment, immigration, the rule of law in property, person and commerce and those are the pillars of a functioning democracy - the freedom and right to pursue self-determination (uninterrupted). So, from my perspective, it's the rule of law and the Constitution's codification of that law, that has enabled this country to be both desirable and available to people like me. Where the political parties have played a part is in not challenging that transitions predictability - until recently. I've lived here since 2005, have never wanted to be anywhere else since I got here (well, maybe other than New Zealand or BC but that's because of sparsity of population, rural areas etc).

I've studied, the concepts of conservatism, of liberal democracy and other political systems and I can't see any real ideological validity in today's candidates or parties. We've turned congress into a reality TV show with crazy personalities who say and do crazy shit to get likes because today, likes equals votes. No, sorry mate, I totally refute the idea that today's republican (or democratic) party has anything to do with the history and prosperity of this country today.

Besides, a central concept of being an American is being able to vote as I please and say as much. If it means that I come across as saying 'you're wrong', well, ok. The flip side is you hold the contention that because I'm an immigrant I can't disagree? No, that doesn't work, it's fundamentally un-American. I paid my dues, I became a Citizen legally and contribute in all the ways required of an invested and active Citizen, I don't need to tow any line other than my own. The one real duty I do have, is to try and make my opinion informed and while that's never completed, I don't feel I've neglected it either.
 
Thank you! Great to be here.

Fair question, but i'll challenge your assumptions as to what made this country what it is today. Throughtout the history of these United States, the single consistency (other than corruption) has been the seamless and peaceful transition of power. That above all else is what has enabled consistent growth in investment, immigration, the rule of law in property, person and commerce and those are the pillars of a functioning democracy - the freedom and right to pursue self-determination (uninterrupted). So, from my perspective, it's the rule of law and the Constitution's codification of that law, that has enabled this country to be both desirable and available to people like me. Where the political parties have played a part is in not challenging that transitions predictability - until recently. I've lived here since 2005, have never wanted to be anywhere else since I got here (well, maybe other than New Zealand or BC but that's because of sparsity of population, rural areas etc).

I've studied, the concepts of conservatism, of liberal democracy and other political systems and I can't see any real ideological validity in today's candidates or parties. We've turned congress into a reality TV show with crazy personalities who say and do crazy shit to get likes because today, likes equals votes. No, sorry mate, I totally refute the idea that today's republican (or democratic) party has anything to do with the history and prosperity of this country today.

Besides, a central concept of being an American is being able to vote as I please and say as much. If it means that I come across as saying 'you're wrong', well, ok. The flip side is you hold the contention that because I'm an immigrant I can't disagree? No, that doesn't work, it's fundamentally un-American. I paid my dues, I became a Citizen legally and contribute in all the ways required of an invested and active Citizen, I don't need to tow any line other than my own. The one real duty I do have, is to try and make my opinion informed and while that's never completed, I don't feel I've neglected it either.
You need to research the one true political party of freedom and reason. I would challenge you that the founding fathers would be today in this party.

The libertarian!
 
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I'm just gonna leave this here.🤠

Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
 
Thank you! Great to be here.

Fair question, but i'll challenge your assumptions as to what made this country what it is today. Throughtout the history of these United States, the single consistency (other than corruption) has been the seamless and peaceful transition of power. That above all else is what has enabled consistent growth in investment, immigration, the rule of law in property, person and commerce and those are the pillars of a functioning democracy - the freedom and right to pursue self-determination (uninterrupted). So, from my perspective, it's the rule of law and the Constitution's codification of that law, that has enabled this country to be both desirable and available to people like me. Where the political parties have played a part is in not challenging that transitions predictability - until recently. I've lived here since 2005, have never wanted to be anywhere else since I got here (well, maybe other than New Zealand or BC but that's because of sparsity of population, rural areas etc).

I've studied, the concepts of conservatism, of liberal democracy and other political systems and I can't see any real ideological validity in today's candidates or parties. We've turned congress into a reality TV show with crazy personalities who say and do crazy shit to get likes because today, likes equals votes. No, sorry mate, I totally refute the idea that today's republican (or democratic) party has anything to do with the history and prosperity of this country today.

Besides, a central concept of being an American is being able to vote as I please and say as much. If it means that I come across as saying 'you're wrong', well, ok. The flip side is you hold the contention that because I'm an immigrant I can't disagree? No, that doesn't work, it's fundamentally un-American. I paid my dues, I became a Citizen legally and contribute in all the ways required of an invested and active Citizen, I don't need to tow any line other than my own. The one real duty I do have, is to try and make my opinion informed and while that's never completed, I don't feel I've neglected it either.
I appreciate your well thought out responses and candor. It does appear that you have done a decent job of educating yourself and I agree with a lot of your conclusions.

I'll just disagree with you on two points:

1- We are not a democracy but a Republic (I believe you are aware of this and just misspoke as is common is our culture. Our own politicians seem to have forgotten this long ago and wish to rule us with mobocracy).

2- America is not beyond saving (you've not said this, its just the general tone I am interpreting) and currently there are not alternative paths to seize control of government power outside of the 2 sets of gatekeepers. Yes the Ds and the Rs. Just as the political parties have been infilitrated with insidious, corrupt, and oppressive ideas we have to infiltrate and promote freedom. If any other party provided the possibility of actually obtaining office we would jump on the train faster than you can believe.
 
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Another thread going off the fucking rails.

Ok, back to some good o'l TDS for you. As related to my last post here regarding Sam Harris and his awful case of the TDS. Back again is my favorite pot head comedian to unpack the reality of all this shit!

Pretty entertaining, and a great look into leftist and Neo Con totalitarian mentality.

 
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I appreciate your well thought out responses and candor. It does appear that you have done a decent job of educating yourself and I agree with a lot of your conclusions.

I'll just disagree with you on two points:

1- We are not a democracy but a Republic (I believe you are aware of this and just misspoke as is common is our culture. Our own politicians seem to have forgotten this long ago and wish to rule us with mobocracy).

2- America is not beyond saving (you've not said this, its just the general tone I am interpreting) and currently there are not alternative paths to seize control of government power outside of the 2 sets of gatekeepers. Yes the Ds and the Rs. Just as the political parties have been infilitrated with insidious, corrupt, and oppressive ideas we have to infiltrate and promote freedom. If any other party provided the possibility of actually obtaining office we would jump on the train faster than you can believe.

1. We don't disagree, hence my ref. to the Constitution which is what makes us a Republic vs Democracy. I don't think I said we're the latter, but I did refrence the democrats and ideology of liberal democracy so maybe wires got crossed there.

2. I do come across fatalistic I suppose and to be fair, the Pit is a venting place in most part as I enjoy slinging shit at the shit talkers, it's harmless mostly and may inspire the dullards to look up a word or two and expand their minds.

I do think a 3rd party, or a centrist splinter off both will form. While tongue in cheek in what I say about Cheney, I do think she represents the beginnings of such a movement and I would wholeheartedly welcome it and support it. It's the political version of a heart transplant we so badly need. I hope, but I hope for reality rather than some bloated warthog with soundbytes and self-adulation as his main talking points.
 
Yes the Ds and the Rs. Just as the political parties have been infilitrated with insidious, corrupt, and oppressive ideas we have to infiltrate and promote freedom. If any other party provided the possibility of actually obtaining office we would jump on the train faster than you can believe.
With the libertarians (most astute group) stuck in the middle. Just my opinion.
 
1. We don't disagree, hence my ref. to the Constitution which is what makes us a Republic vs Democracy. I don't think I said we're the latter, but I did refrence the democrats and ideology of liberal democracy so maybe wires got crossed there.

2. I do come across fatalistic I suppose and to be fair, the Pit is a venting place in most part as I enjoy slinging shit at the shit talkers, it's harmless mostly and may inspire the dullards to look up a word or two and expand their minds.

I do think a 3rd party, or a centrist splinter off both will form. While tongue in cheek in what I say about Cheney, I do think she represents the beginnings of such a movement and I would wholeheartedly welcome it and support it. It's the political version of a heart transplant we so badly need. I hope, but I hope for reality rather than some bloated warthog with soundbytes and self-adulation as his main talking points.
Cheney, like her dad, is a warmongering, globalist cunt. We kicked her neocon ass out of Wyoming and hopefully out of any elected office for good. The simple fact that you think she's a good choice shows just how stupid you really are.

By supporting Cheney, you by default support endless wars, endless nation building, a forever expanding police and surveillance state, and a NWO.
 
Cheney, like her dad, is a warmongering, globalist cunt. We kicked her neocon ass out of Wyoming and hopefully out of any elected office for good. The simple fact that you think she's a good choice shows just how stupid you really are.

By supporting Cheney, you by default support endless wars, endless nation building, a forever expanding police and surveillance state, and a NWO.
Unfortunately you guys didn’t kick her out. That’s not how it works. We control nothing. She left on her own accord and will continue to be a major player either out front or behind the scene.
 
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