Federal Match Large Rifle primers*****update on page 2*****

[Doc68]

Does anyone know of a bad lot number? Last night I loaded up 75 rds in my 6.5 and had 8 failure to fire. Put them all back in 2 more times and nothing. Good primer hits. Never had any issues with this rifle.

 

[culater]

No that a rarity for federal

 

[Doc68]

That's what I thought also. I emailed federal yesterday about it and now waiting to hear back.

 

[padom]

Never had that happen once with any Federal primers

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

How are you seating them?

 

[Doc68]

I'm seating them like I seat any other primer. They aren't recessed. Primer strikes are good. Just not going off.

 

[Doc68]

Here's some pictures.

 

[GhengisAhn175]

Take an open flame to the primer and see if they'll ignite

also try hitting one with a hammer. It's best if you have the hammer pre laid on the primer and strike the back of the hammer with another

your primer pockets or inside the case weren't wet by chance? Just Want to verify you ensured cases were dry IF you SS wet tumble

 

[Doc68]

Yeah, I dry tumble. I'll have to see with the flame and hammer trick.

 

[1J04]

Only used Federal n CCI since the 70's. I've never had a primer fail to go pop. Interested to know if you're able to get them to go off. Interesting.......

 

[MtnCreek]

Igniting a primer that's not confined in a pocket and against a bolt face is not a safe practice. JMHO.

Measure pocket depth on those vs the ones that did fire.

Are you seating to a certain depth or bottoming out in the pocket?

 

[Stag556]

I had that issue with Federal 215M primers in my 338. Looked like good primer strikes but no fire. Turned out the firing pin spring was dirty and needed a good cleaning. Never an issue since.


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[Doc68]

I bottom them out in the pocket.

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

I'm seating them like I seat any other primer. They aren't recessed. Primer strikes are good. Just not going off.

They have to be bottomed out and then seated slightly further to sensitize them. I seat everything with a hand primer and I can feel the primer reach the bottom then moved a little further which means the anvil is then contacting the primer compound. Shallow seating is the main reason for miss fires.

 

[Doc68]

All mine are done with an RCBS hand primer also. Like I've said I bottom them out. They aren't too deep.

 

[03psd]

Stupid question but it's happened to me one time. I forget to add powder to a row of 5 in my reloading block. Went to the range and had 5 FTF. The primers weren't enough to push the bullet from the case so they appeared perfect until I pulled them down and discovered the 5 cases were empty. Yeah, I felt dumb but I would bet money I wasnt the first guy to make that mistake.

 

[Bacarrat]

Might be a odd question, but what is your rifle setup? Some of the older Timneys would give a lot of light primer strikes. I know when changed out mine to a CG Jackson, my light primer strikes went away completely.

 

[Doc68]

My set up is :

savage fcp in 6.5 creedmoor. Accu trigger. It has maybe 400 rds down the pipe. Last night I took apart the bolt and cleaned it. Didn't look too dirty. I'm pulling the rounds down today. I'm gonna deprive them and see if there is any visual imperfections.

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

"Like I've said I bottom them out. They aren't too deep."

Contradictory statements when it comes to primer reliability. Just saying

 

[Doc68]

What I'm saying is they aren't too deep to not be hit hard enough by the firing pin, as you can see from y pics on the first page.

 

[Doc68]

Update!!!!

well I'm officially a dumbass. Apparently I never put powder in those 8rds and since I had my suppressor on it didn't sound like they fired. The primers detonated fine like they should have. Luckily didn't have enough power to push the bullet down the barrel.

lesson learned...inspect each case prior to seating bullet. Good thing this was learned without any serious injury to myself or my son who was shooting next to me.

 

[Stag556]

Update!!!!

well I'm officially a dumbass. Apparently I never put powder in those 8rds and since I had my suppressor on it didn't sound like they fired. The primers detonated fine like they should have. Luckily didn't have enough power to push the bullet down the barrel.

lesson learned...inspect each case prior to seating bullet. Good thing this was learned without any serious injury to myself or my son who was shooting next to me.

Definitely want to setup a process that eliminates issues like that. Will save you a lot of heartache and stress.


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[FLIGHT762]

We've all done stupid shit. Had this happen to me a year or so ago. No powder, luckily, it was only one round. Since then, to be sure, I use a small LED penlight to inspect all of the powder dropped rounds in the loading block. Hasn't happened since.

Last Tuesday, I was shooting my 40XBKS and had one round not go off, I thought, not this shit again. I tried it a second time and it went off. It was an older lot of the original Russian "Wolf" LRP's. I shot off all of the older Wolf primers and I'm using the newer Tula branded primers. I did have 2-3 dud primers in that first batch of 1000 Wolf primers. No duds yet on the Tulas.

 

[Doc68]

Definitely want to setup a process that eliminates issues like that. Will save you a lot of heartache and stress.


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Yes for sure. If I recall correctly I had to step away for a couple of minutes and then came back. I just used a small light to verify all had powder before I seated the bullets.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Been there, done that. I will say a primer will push a 230 grain 45 about 2 inches down the barrel.

 

[atefft22]

Yep, agreed 2ndamendfan. I've unfortunately experienced just that first hand. Gladly caught it stuck before I chamberd another one. Inspecting cases after throwing charges is good practice. It's very easy to un knowingly short stroke a progressive press and not charge a case also "for whatever reason that may be"