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"Feeding My Kids is More Important than the law....."
- Thread starter pmclaine
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So... the issue with being young is that your genetics can still screw you.
One of the oddities appears to be that certain people are not symptomatic until they have a significant issue absorbing O2.
One study was showing the people’s blood O2 was as low as 50% before they started to have the lack of an ability to get a full breath.
Anything under 90% blood O2 will start causing damage to your organs...
So now, you check your temperature and you check your O2 levels. If they later is under 93%, you start watching it like a hawk. ...if it doesn't get back to >93%.... you call you dr, get tested, and get on O2.
They are starting to realize that catching it early is the difference between life and death. Some people can have it and be, effectively, dying and not know it until its way to progressed.
Back when this started we thought just a cold, then just the flue and mass meds were used. At the time cv19 really wasn't American news.
By the time fever broke we were just learning about this new virus.
That did little good as the medical community decided if you don't have active fever they would not test.
2 grandsons, 2sons, wife, daughter in law and several others one test before cv19 testing just showed undetermined flue type infection of grandson.
This all started with inlaws going on a trip in December all the way up the west coast then directly to Italy for several weeks.
Christmas gatherings ensued and by mid ish January all were sick.
Every adult was like wow this is the worst flue ever but with enough meds and rest no one was hospitalized.
In retrospect I should have went due to dizziness and trouble breathing.
I allready had two different breathing meds and hit them extra hard.
The whole point is tests were withheld and still are difficult to get.
That is what is unacceptable and dragging this out and spreading by
Asymptomatic people.
If tests were given to sick people when requested this would have not been as bad for all.
Waiting for people to be consumed by the virus before testing them is the stupidest thing I have seen in a very long time.
By the time fever broke we were just learning about this new virus.
That did little good as the medical community decided if you don't have active fever they would not test.
2 grandsons, 2sons, wife, daughter in law and several others one test before cv19 testing just showed undetermined flue type infection of grandson.
This all started with inlaws going on a trip in December all the way up the west coast then directly to Italy for several weeks.
Christmas gatherings ensued and by mid ish January all were sick.
Every adult was like wow this is the worst flue ever but with enough meds and rest no one was hospitalized.
In retrospect I should have went due to dizziness and trouble breathing.
I allready had two different breathing meds and hit them extra hard.
The whole point is tests were withheld and still are difficult to get.
That is what is unacceptable and dragging this out and spreading by
Asymptomatic people.
If tests were given to sick people when requested this would have not been as bad for all.
Waiting for people to be consumed by the virus before testing them is the stupidest thing I have seen in a very long time.
The best scams have some small element of truth to them. Ridiculous disproportionate response to a pathogen that only affects a small amount of the population. An “emergency” should never supersede the constitution.
She stated she was constitutionally barred from issuing stay at home orders. Cowering to corruption, when it is accompanied by power, isn’t next level chess, it’s corruption. You don’t get to “comprise” with other people’s rights.
With a lot of testing of people that wanted it, and closing some high density areas.
Some ppe, and social distancing would have sufficed for most people.
We went overboard on lockdown and didn't medically respond properly.
But we let sick people suffer, asymptomatic walk free and spread disease unknowingly because of lack of tests provided.
Buisiness and industry could have made it through this with 50% ish capacity and measure's now in place..
I don't blame this on Potus but he got a lot of bad advise in the beginning and has had to swim upstream since.
Some ppe, and social distancing would have sufficed for most people.
We went overboard on lockdown and didn't medically respond properly.
But we let sick people suffer, asymptomatic walk free and spread disease unknowingly because of lack of tests provided.
Buisiness and industry could have made it through this with 50% ish capacity and measure's now in place..
I don't blame this on Potus but he got a lot of bad advise in the beginning and has had to swim upstream since.
Some were there is a balance in constitutional rights ( I am an ardent advocate of our Constitution) and trying to keep people alive.
I have been fortunate to have had right wing corrupt governors.
They agree with me way better than left wing corrupt governors. Lol
Something sounds wrong with that study. If a patient desaturates below 90% things start to happen - rapid heart rate, starvation of the brain for O2, potentially shunting to keep the O2 going to the brain and heart. Altered mental states, gasping like a fish, panic as well. Getting to 50% before exhibiting a lack of ability to get a full breath sounds not right at all. In my experience a lack of oxygen below 90% translates into SOB symptoms fairly rapidly. Also, if you are at 90% O2 saturation I would not be driving to the hospital; sit you ass down and call it in. Extra movement is only going to use additional O2 and cause further problems.
Not all organs suffer immediately from hypoxia. Some can go for a relatively long time depending upon the body's need for them. Its the ones that don't have a wide window that are critical to the conversation.
Yeah, I understand... but it thats what they've been seeing. My suspicion is that the 50% patients were severe outliers...
That said they were very clear that they were seeing people under 90% that were not symptomatic for Covid, and had been non-symptomatic for a day or two prior to becoming so.
Which of course is why they were totally alarmed.
now they didn’t go into anything that I would’ve wanted to know:
- Was it a specific ethnic background (therefore specific genetics)
- was it people of a specific physical conditioning
- was it a single small population set that came from Denver to the East Coast
- was it the Russian distance running team who had just finished a round blood doping
- etc...
i’m being slightly facetious, but honestly they were just reporting what they were seeing clinically. They were quite alarmed and the some extent confused...
I’ll see if I can the link to the study. (My kid dropped and shattered that ipad... so this is the new one....).
That said they were very clear that they were seeing people under 90% that were not symptomatic for Covid, and had been non-symptomatic for a day or two prior to becoming so.
Which of course is why they were totally alarmed.
now they didn’t go into anything that I would’ve wanted to know:
- Was it a specific ethnic background (therefore specific genetics)
- was it people of a specific physical conditioning
- was it a single small population set that came from Denver to the East Coast
- was it the Russian distance running team who had just finished a round blood doping
- etc...
i’m being slightly facetious, but honestly they were just reporting what they were seeing clinically. They were quite alarmed and the some extent confused...
I’ll see if I can the link to the study. (My kid dropped and shattered that ipad... so this is the new one....).
They brought not one but two sheriffs, in addition to the dept of health worker, when they came back to remove their placard. I asked them if they were still getting paid.
Shit just makes my blood boil man. It's like we handed all the power and authority to control everyone's lives to the petty assholes that rise to the top of HOA boards.
To the deputies credit, they were nice, polite and understanding of my salty attitude. I would call them "like minded". They didn't seem to enjoy it and even seemed a tad embarrassed maybe. Probably felt pretty similar about it as I did. It took some of the sting out of it and I felt like the dick afterwards for being a smart ass. But, I also haven't done anything wrong here. Nobody was forced to come in except the health dept. to ticket me.
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f then. They didn’t have to do it.
Guess they will feel bad while they are stealing our guns in a few years. Some people on the right side will feel bad while they are handling that issue too.
This reads like you are feeling guilty about the king's men being tyrants?
Yet they enforced an unconstitutional king's decree anyway.
What is your business?
If the board of health issues restrictions for a public health emergency than there is a public benefit for the restrictions (assuming the threat is real).
If you mitigate the threat within your business and show that your operation is not putting anyone at risk the burden is back on the government to show how your operation presents a risk to public health.
So say for instance you limit capacity, enforce distancing, check temps, enforce the wearing of masks......what right do they have to close you?
Granted Im more of the mindset an adult can determine for their own the nature of the threat and whether or not they want to assume the risks of conducting in commerce. Im not a fan of the measures I mention to counter the board of healths perception of the public threat.
My personal opinion is shove Fauci in a hole, send Berks to her scarf closet...open the economy.
Sorry to hear you are going through this shit. Thank you for having the balls to resist. I hope at some point this works in your favor.
When they decide which business can stay open and which ones can't. It's bullshit. When they allowed Walmart, Lowe's, Home Depot and multiples of other varying companies product to remain open and said similar businesses are closed?
It's bullshit, plain and simple.
Just started watching "John Adams" and in the first episoid a wharf enforcer/tax collector guy got tared and feathered...Funny I thought that would be fitting here. "Just doing my job!"...Sad it has come to this...
Regards
DT
Regards
DT
Not at all. Just about being an asshole or sorts.
Yep. Still taking a paycheck and taking orders. Not sure why they were there, they were not when I was issued a citation.
NOT kidding, I'd send it back to 'em with "take your commie shit somewhere else, not playing, I pass".
At some point you gotta stop pretending their bullshit matters. Who wrote that, the hall monitor? Looks like some kindergarten tattle tale shit. I'm being dead serious too.
I'd tell 'em their court ain't essential and send 'em the same observation "seen two go in, one come out..."
Fuck that noise.
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