First post, thought some experts could reccomend a silencer.

[AppleLover35]

This silencer will go on my .308 ar10 for strictly deer hunting. With so many diffrent silencers, I was wondering who has what and what to buy and what not to.

I wanna spend 1,100 on one without tax stamp.
I was thinking the banish 30, omega 300, or resonator r2. Anyone have these and loved or hated them? Thanks everyone.

 

[Darryle]

In for the chuckles

 

[01911]

Since you’re not doing battle rifle stuff and just concentrating on the single long range outdoor shot then I will recommend not getting a flow through can. You should concentrate on a suppressor that quieter at the ear. I will also recommend a direct thread.
Nomad L

 

[msgriff]

Since you’re not doing battle rifle stuff and just concentrating on the single long range outdoor shot then I will recommend not getting a flow through can. You should concentrate on a suppressor that quieter at the ear. I will also recommend a direct thread.
Nomad L

Have you ever used a Nomad L on a gas operated semi ??

 

[Cascade Hemi]

Explorr30.

Lightweight, Compact, Good suppression, Tons of muzzle device options,

 

[01911]

Have you ever used a Nomad L on a gas operated semi ??

It’s a brick but he’s using his battle rifle like a bolt action and probably sitting in a stand. He’s got a tight budget as well.

 

[AppleLover35]

Have you ever used a Nomad L on a gas operated semi ??

Will this create issues with how the gun cycles? I have a bleed-off adj gas block as well as heavier spring and buffer. Will the nomad put too much backpressure?

 

[AppleLover35]

It’s a brick but he’s using his battle rifle like a bolt action and probably sitting in a stand. He’s got a tight budget as well.

Battle rifle like a bolt action, spot on! I thought 1,000 was good for a silencer, how and why are they even over 1000?

 

[AXEFORCE6]

Get an omega 300. I have a few of them and shoot one a 308 ar. Great can and be had for less than your wanting to spend.

 

[AppleLover35]

Get an omega 300. I have a few of them and shoot one a 308 ar. Great can and be had for less than your wanting to spend.

Awesome, glad you have experience with them.

 

[Jefe's Dope]

Thunderbeast Ultra 7 and an adjustable gas block.

 

[01911]

Battle rifle like a bolt action, spot on! I thought 1,000 was good for a silencer, how and why are they even over 1000?

They are usually under $900 @ Silencer Shop and the restock over there often

Thunderbeast Ultra 7 and an adjustable gas block.

This ^^^
If you can swing a TBAC then go for one of those. The way they publish their stats is very helpful and again I think quieter at the ear is more useful for your deal then considering weight or gas in the face.

 

[Bluedog82]

You are going to get an overwhelming amount of suggestions. Do you plan to use this on anything else? If it’s just for deer hunting with a .308 (and non-mobile), pretty much any can will work. Yes, some will be quieter or louder, more or less blowback, etc, but with the amount of use you describe it will hardly matter.

 

[AppleLover35]

You are going to get an overwhelming amount of suggestions. Do you plan to use this on anything else? If it’s just for deer hunting with a .308 (and non-mobile), pretty much any can will work. Yes, some will be quieter or louder, more or less blowback, etc, but with the amount of use you describe it will hardly matter.

That's somewhat why I'm here. To see if people really liked or really hated a certain can so at least I feel confident in one.

 

[msgriff]

Will this create issues with how the gun cycles? I have a bleed-off adj gas block as well as heavier spring and buffer. Will the nomad put too much backpressure?

Here's a link to the free version of the PEW Science suppressor back pressure data. It has a few dozen suppressors in that version, and is a number of years old, so finding data/info for a particular suppressor not listed will take more research. The Nomad L tops the list for back pressure, and I would expect a lot of work to get a DI semi to function. Depending on your barrel length/gas system length (or dwell), an AGB and heavy buffer will help, but there are limitations.

PEW Science Suppressor Back Pressure

 

[AppleLover35]

Here's a link to the free version of the PEW Science suppressor back pressure data. It has a few dozen suppressors in that version, and is a number of years old, so finding data/info for a particular suppressor not listed will take more research. The Nomad L tops the list for back pressure, and I would expect a lot of work to get a DI semi to function. Depending on your barrel length/gas system length (or dwell), an AGB and heavy buffer will help, but there are limitations.

PEW Science Suppressor Back Pressure

I did see the pew science graph and yeah, the nomad had the most by a Longshot. For a bolt I feel the nomad would work but now I see maybe not for semi's. Thanks for pointing this out.

 

[Bluedog82]

That's somewhat why I'm here. To see if people really liked or really hated a certain can so at least I feel confident in one.

You will find a few cans people hate, but like 50 they love

 

[MSTN]

A high back pressure ( but really quiet) suppressor will choke up a gas gun faster than you might think. And you'll be swallowing a lot of carcinogens.

For my money (meaning I have one), the most versatile single suppressor I've used is the CGS HELIOS QD TI. It has a very generous .36 caliber bore. You can run it on 1/2-28 and 5/8-24 muzzles. It comes with removable open and closed front end caps. I've used it on 5.56, .300 BLK, 6mmARC, 6.5 CM, and .308. Direct thread, it weighs just 11.5 ounces, too.

It is shown here on a 14.5" 6mmARC:

 

[JR1200W3]

Kind of surprised no one has mentioned Diligent Defense Enticer series. You can get a S in steel for $450 or a S in titanium that weighs 9.5oz and costs $685. The Enticer L-ti is only 1.8oz heavier, 1.5" longer and not much more $. It also ranks very high in independent sound tests. Higher than everything listed so far. I own an Ultra 7 and it's my least favorite can. There are better cans for your money these days

 

[STI_1911_Guy]

I would check out the rugged surge and the TBAC 9 gen 2 .

 

[AppleLover35]

I would check out the rugged surge and the TBAC 9 gen 2 .

TBAC 9 is 9 inches. Thats half my barrel lol. What about the TBAC 7? I heard someone else mention it, im guessing it should perform well, just shorter configuration

 

[01911]

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[cas6969]

I wanna spend 1,100 on one without tax stamp.

BEFORE the tax stamp is verbiage you seek.

 

[ut755ln]

A high back pressure ( but really quiet) suppressor will choke up a gas gun faster than you might think. And you'll be swallowing a lot of carcinogens.

For my money (meaning I have one), the most versatile single suppressor I've used is the CGS HELIOS QD TI. It has a very generous .36 caliber bore. You can run it on 1/2-28 and 5/8-24 muzzles. It comes with removable open and closed front end caps. I've used it on 5.56, .300 BLK, 6mmARC, 6.5 CM, and .308. Direct thread, it weighs just 11.5 ounces, too.

It is shown here on a 14.5" 6mmARC:

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I agree with everything he said except I went with the HUX 30 cal version but same idea.

 

[MSTN]

Another excellent choice, and I think the very best choice if you also want to shoot unsuppressed with a muzzle device on the gun. The HUXWRX Flow 762 Ti weighs in at just 11.8 ounces. Their 7.62 brake is the least objectionable I've ever used, plus incredibly effective.

 

[Cody S]

I would recommend the BT SRBS titanium line with direct thread for the lightest possible setup, or the new huxwrx flow through 762 titanium can. I actually don't own either of those brands and don't even own a flow through suppressor but I'll be getting one of those two very soon for a similar application as you.
a semi auto with a normal suppressor isn't going to be a huge deal for hunting because it's only one or two rounds but that gas blowback gets old fast ime.

 

[kthomas]

That's somewhat why I'm here. To see if people really liked or really hated a certain can so at least I feel confident in one.

Most people are going to post what they own to seek confirmation on their own purchase(s). People are weird like that with suppressors. So take suggestions with a grain of salt.

Backpressure will be a real issue with a suppressed AR-10.

I don't have any experience with the other cans on the list, but the Omega 300 is a high backpressure can. It's a decent suppressor, works very well on a bolt gun, but IMO it's not optimal for semi use.

Optimizing the gas system (adjustable gas block, BRT EZ-tune, buffer, etc) to run suppressed will probably be equally as important as any suppressor you purchase.

 

[Magsz18]

If you have a "well gassed" ar10, you're probably just a buffer change away from the gun running reliably. Granted, environment can and will play into this so your mileage may vary.

I don't think there's any real right answer to the original posters question other than to speak in generalities.

For what you intend to do with the rifle, I would personally want a more corked up can to maximize suppression. I'm not really worried about backpressure on a can that lives on a rifle that is not going to see a lot of rounds. Provided of course that the can isn't over driving bolt velocity to the point where the gun wont work. I really don't think you NEED a modern "flow through" can in order to get your gun to work.

IF you want to avoid having to monkey with the gun at all there are really only a few cans right now on the market that are going to get you where you want to be:

HuxwerkzFlow 762TI
Silencerco Velos LBP 7.62
Maybe some of the CGS offerings since they're over bored and they have vented end caps.

The Griffin Dual lok series of cans has something like a 5% increase in rate of fire which is pretty low in the backpressure department. They also have a great mount system, low flash and great tone.

Other than those cans, for the most part, the commercially available stuff is all traditional baffle designs.

It's up to you to prioritize weight, suppression, size. You've got a fairly generous budget so you can play a bit with your options.

Personally, id recommend a Silencerco Omega 300 DTM. Decent weight, decent suppression, awesome price and if you want it, a muzzle brake.

 

[Cody S]

fwiw I have several cans but for you if this is your first can and you don't want the new flowthrough tech for whatever reason, I have a silencerco omega 30cal can. I've shot the piss out of that can on everything from 7 rem mag down to 223 rem. it's fantastic and can really handle the heat of a full auto 223. on top of that it's very cheap and the most important reason I'm recommend silencerco to you is the customer service. I've had to have my omega serviced once and they are by far the best customer service of any company of any industry I've ever dealt with. long story short, after about 20k rounds of high pressure competition cartridges I wanted it cleaned and inspected. I let them know I had a comp in 3 weeks and I was really hoping to run that particular can if they were able to make it work, they just said they would see what they could do.
I don't remember honestly if they called or emailed the next day but again to keep this relatively short they just explained in order to keep it quick they *basically* gave me a new can with the same serial #.
that same week I had the can back in my hands, approx 7 or 9 days after I had shipped it off.
everything was free except the cheap initial shipping. they even replaced the muzzle brake I had stuck in the can and gave me a brand new muzzle brake. I can be more specific if you want just let me know.
my opinion is anything silencerco will make you happy, however, they don't make the super light weight high end stuff I dig like the all titanium. but yeah, SiCo products are 10/10, just pick which one is right for you. they also offer a new reasonably priced flow through can.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

KGM and Huxworkx have some of the lowest back pressure of any cans. Any of the flow through cans would be great, but take a look around here to help you decide:

Rifle Silencer Back Pressure Research — PEW Science

Which rifle silencer balances back pressure with sound suppression? Which silencer prevents or reduces blow back? Do some silencers still suppress sound signatures while offering lower back pressure? PEW Science has developed the Omega Back Pressure Metric to quantify this for the silencer industry.

pewscience.com

Thunderbeast cans are awesome, but that have a ton of backpressure and arent good for gas guns.

 

[Jefe's Dope]

IMO, I would spend the extra couple of hundred and get a flow through can.

 

[Cody S]

IMO, I would spend the extra couple of hundred and get a flow through can.

I second that, it's only a couple hundred more and I don't know personally but I'd bet the sound difference is negligible

 

[AppleLover35]

If you have a "well gassed" ar10, you're probably just a buffer change away from the gun running reliably. Granted, environment can and will play into this so your mileage may vary.

I don't think there's any real right answer to the original posters question other than to speak in generalities.

For what you intend to do with the rifle, I would personally want a more corked up can to maximize suppression. I'm not really worried about backpressure on a can that lives on a rifle that is not going to see a lot of rounds. Provided of course that the can isn't over driving bolt velocity to the point where the gun wont work. I really don't think you NEED a modern "flow through" can in order to get your gun to work.

IF you want to avoid having to monkey with the gun at all there are really only a few cans right now on the market that are going to get you where you want to be:

HuxwerkzFlow 762TI
Silencerco Velos LBP 7.62
Maybe some of the CGS offerings since they're over bored and they have vented end caps.

The Griffin Dual lok series of cans has something like a 5% increase in rate of fire which is pretty low in the backpressure department. They also have a great mount system, low flash and great tone.

Other than those cans, for the most part, the commercially available stuff is all traditional baffle designs.

It's up to you to prioritize weight, suppression, size. You've got a fairly generous budget so you can play a bit with your options.

Personally, id recommend a Silencerco Omega 300 DTM. Decent weight, decent suppression, awesome price and if you want it, a muzzle brake.

I just pulled the trigger on this on capitol armory. I called some shops and they most said omega 300. I didn't know there was a dtm but that was something new on capitol armory so I went with it. Appreciate the reccomendation. I hope it only takes a few days like people are saying. My father's thunderchciken has been in jail over a year already

 

[kthomas]

I just pulled the trigger on this on capitol armory. I called some shops and they most said omega 300. I didn't know there was a dtm but that was something new on capitol armory so I went with it. Appreciate the reccomendation. I hope it only takes a few days like people are saying. My father's thunderchciken has been in jail over a year already

I know people like to crap on the Omega 300 here on SH, but it's a solid suppressor. My wife has one, and it's a great little suppressor. And it's a solid deal if you got it for around $600, like some places are selling it for.

The one thing I've noticed with my wife's Omega 300 is that it's on the higher side for pressure - so you may need to tweak the gas system to optimize it around your suppressor. Easy enough to do, BRT EZ-Tunes make that easy. And maybe since 2018, when my wife bought her Omega 300, they've changed the baffle design to improve the flow regime for semi use.

Anyways, solid can - enjoy your purchase!

 

[Cody S]

I can say with silencerco; if anything goes wrong, which is unlikely, they will take care of you.

 

[Conqueror]

Everyone here just throwing out names with no data.

Suppressor Sound Rankings — PEW Science

What is the quietest silencer for your suppressed firearm? The quietest suppressor for your use case is listed on this page with detailed links to the Silencer Sound Standard test data. PEW Science test data with PEW-SOFT is the most accurate suppressor test data available.

pewscience.com

Filter ammo to supersonic .308 and sort by Ear (shooter) suppression rating. Start at the top and go down until you find one that meets your budget and size/weight needs. You’re using this for hunting so bystander suppression doesn’t matter and neither does backpressure since you’re going to fire one or maybe two shots. Pay close attention to FRP (first round pop) as that is relevant to hunting (less is better).

 

[Cody S]

eta I got one of the first Omegas, and I paid msrp or real darn close, maybe 1100 or 1200 just for the can. I still love the thing and am happy with the value ive personally gotten out of it, and now I know people can pick one up for 600$ absolutely give that a go.

 

[kthomas]

eta I got one of the first Omegas, and I paid msrp or real darn close, maybe 1100 or 1200 just for the can. I still love the thing, and now I know people can pick one up for 600$ absolutely give that a go.

At ~$600, the Omega is a hell of deal

 

[owtlaw]

Check out the Rugged Radiant. I run mine on several gas guns and I have no complaints with it.

 

[Clayman]

This silencer will go on my .308 ar10 for strictly deer hunting. With so many diffrent silencers, I was wondering who has what and what to buy and what not to.

I wanna spend 1,100 on one without tax stamp.
I was thinking the banish 30, omega 300, or resonator r2. Anyone have these and loved or hated them? Thanks everyone.

CAT ODB. If you're not going to be firing it aggressively get the Ti model.

This thing is fantastic on semi auto, 308, 300 blk, 5.56 etc.

Only thing about the Ti is you just need to be cautious of firing schedule. If you aren't mag dumping you're good to go.

 

[ut755ln]

CAT ODB. If you're not going to be firing it aggressively get the Ti model.

This thing is fantastic on semi auto, 308, 300 blk, 5.56 etc.

Only thing about the Ti is you just need to be cautious of firing schedule. If you aren't mag dumping you're good to go.

I have not used it but mag dumping is fine with a titanium can. I would not trust them with a belt fed but how often is anyone going to run 4 to 6 mags through a rifle as quickly as possible.

 

[Clayman]

I have not used it but mag dumping is fine with a titanium can. I would not trust them with a belt fed but how often is anyone going to run 4 to 6 mags through a rifle as quickly as possible.

Blanket statements aren't good. Some might be fine, others might not.

The CAT ti cans where made quite thin and heat up pretty fast. If you put 4 mags through one as quick as possible it's 100% going to be damaged. 7.2" 9.7oz in the 1x16lh qd version. 6.85" 8.8oz in hub version.

If you plan on running more than 30+ rounds per minute it's not recommended to use the ti model per the manual(get inconel version). However it also says that's host/ammo dependant and to use an infrared thermometer to develop a firing schedule that suits your host.

Full Auto or High Rates of Fire (HRF) (greater than 30 rounds per minute) are expressly
discouraged, unless in life threatening self-defense situations, as the ODB Titanium is a lightweight, high
performance suppressor dedicated to Low Rates of Fire (LRF), and the user should not exceed a
maximum service temperature of approximately 650°F (343°C). Once this temperature threshold is
reached, the suppressor should be allowed to cool down. Titanium Ti6AI4V has inherent material
properties which give the material a lower heat conductivity rating, and the suppressor is susceptible to
particle erosion and melting past this temperature limit. If the user notices discoloration on the exterior
discontinue use and allow it to cool down. Do not dip the suppressor in water in an attempt to cool it
down.
C.A.T recommends ODB Titanium users invest in an infrared thermometer and create their own platform
specific firing schedule, based on ammunition and barrel length. It is recommended to create this firing
schedule by shooting five round groups, with one second intervals between rounds, then testing the
temperature of the suppressor up to 550°F (288°C). At this operating temperature, the user should record
the amount of time until the suppressor returns to 150°F (65°C). This would become the baseline firing
schedule based on the user’s platform and ammunition type.
C.A.T ODB Titanium has a dedicated “waffle” style erosion interface at the end of the blast chamber. This
is a sacrificial erosion wall, and users should not be concerned if they are seeing wear, this is designed to
support the erosion caused by unburnt particulates (especially in short barrel platforms) and is designed to
protect other internal areas inside of the suppressor.
Excessive white sparking may be noticed upon first use, this is due to microscopic Titanium dust from the
Additive Manufacturing process. Over the course of use this white sparking will subside but will never fully
disappear, particularly on short barrel platforms. Titanium white sparking is separate from flash and cannot
be controlled by a flash hider or other methods, as it is a byproduct of Titanium being classed as a
reactive metal. If Titanium induced white sparking is an undesirable factor in the suppressor’s application,
C.A.T recommends the use of our Inconel 718 model offerings, as Inconel 718 doesn’t spark.

 

[Clayman]

So deer hunting or purposeful target shooting is exactly in the realm of what that would excel at.

 

[ut755ln]

Blanket statements aren't good. Some might be fine, others might not.

I agree but it was not a blanket statement, it was a qualified statement hence the how often is someone going to mag dump 4 to 6 times back to back.

 

[parkerg31]

Another vote for a Huxwrx Flow 762 Ti. I went with a buy once cry once mentality and I wanted something that was versitile for my first supressor. None of my rifles have an adjustable gas block and I have had 0 function issues. It is great on my 14.5 556 at the range and on my 30 cal AR's that I use for long range and hog hunting. It is a little above your budget but I think you would be extremely pleased if you saved up for one.

 

[TheHorta]

Have you looked into Solvent Traps?

They’re the wave of the future.