Any of you fellas carry a fixed blade knife along with you CCW? In Tn, you can carry a knife with a blade up to 4" and be within the law.
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Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nashlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any of you fellas carry a fixed blade knife along with you CCW? In Tn, you can carry a knife with a blade up to 4" and be within the law.
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I do, daily.
Typically a Tracker Dan Bloodshark for starters:
Sometimes I add the modified Gerber Guardian, or Cold Steel Braveheart, too - as seen below:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nashlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any of you fellas carry a fixed blade knife along with you CCW? In Tn, you can carry a knife with a blade up to 4" and be within the law.
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I do, daily.
Typically a Tracker Dan Bloodshark for starters:
Sometimes I add the modified Gerber Guardian, or Cold Steel Braveheart, too - as seen below:
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
Michigan has some archaic knife laws:
The general concealed weapon law, MCL §750.227(1), makes it a felony to carry a “dagger, dirk, stiletto, double-edged non-folding stabbing instrument of any length, or any other dangerous weapon, except a hunting knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about his or her person or whether concealed or otherwise in a motor vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on land possessed by the person.”
MCL §750.226 provides that “Any person who, with intent to use the same unlawfully against the person of another, goes armed with a pistol or other firearm or dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto, or knife having a blade over 3 inches in length, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument, shall be guilty of a [five year] felony...”
So, some lawyers will say that you can carry a knife concealed in Michigan provided that it is not an automatic knife and it is a pocket-style knife (and not a knife designed or customarily used as a weapon). That appears to be true according to some very old case law, but only if the pocket knife was not designed, manufactured or marketed as a fighting knife, it is not used as a weapon, and you do not intend to use it as a weapon. And remember that any such 'utility' knife or 'pocket' knife will become a dangerous weapon as soon as you use it to protect yourself or if you carry it for the purpose of protecting yourself.
Bottom line: I wouldn’t carry a knife for self-defense unless I was prohibited from carrying a gun.
Michigan has some archaic knife laws:
The general concealed weapon law, MCL §750.227(1), makes it a felony to carry a “dagger, dirk, stiletto, double-edged non-folding stabbing instrument of any length, or any other dangerous weapon, except a hunting knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about his or her person or whether concealed or otherwise in a motor vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on land possessed by the person.”
MCL §750.226 provides that “Any person who, with intent to use the same unlawfully against the person of another, goes armed with a pistol or other firearm or dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto, or knife having a blade over 3 inches in length, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument, shall be guilty of a [five year] felony...”
So, some lawyers will say that you can carry a knife concealed in Michigan provided that it is not an automatic knife and it is a pocket-style knife (and not a knife designed or customarily used as a weapon). That appears to be true according to some very old case law, but only if the pocket knife was not designed, manufactured or marketed as a fighting knife, it is not used as a weapon, and you do not intend to use it as a weapon. And remember that any such 'utility' knife or 'pocket' knife will become a dangerous weapon as soon as you use it to protect yourself or if you carry it for the purpose of protecting yourself.
Bottom line: I wouldn’t carry a knife for self-defense unless I was prohibited from carrying a gun.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
Jim, is the Tracker Dan Bloodshark the knife with the green paracord wrapping in the first picture? That is an AWESOME looking knife("awesome" is overused, but applicable in this case).
Jim, is the Tracker Dan Bloodshark the knife with the green paracord wrapping in the first picture? That is an AWESOME looking knife("awesome" is overused, but applicable in this case).
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
As was said, you need to be very careful not to run afoul of local laws. As is the case here, while we have statewide firearms laws that preempt any local lawmaking, knives are a different matter.
I'm sort of forced by circumstance to carry what might be considered a fixed blade weapon if push came to shove, but I have no choice. Bare minimum for me is a HAK, which I wear 24/7, even as I sleep. "Sunday best" is one of these, or the larger of these two. Typical day-to-day is a Fred Perrin Spyderco Street Beat, or a Boker Plus Mosier.
As was said, you need to be very careful not to run afoul of local laws. As is the case here, while we have statewide firearms laws that preempt any local lawmaking, knives are a different matter.
I'm sort of forced by circumstance to carry what might be considered a fixed blade weapon if push came to shove, but I have no choice. Bare minimum for me is a HAK, which I wear 24/7, even as I sleep. "Sunday best" is one of these, or the larger of these two. Typical day-to-day is a Fred Perrin Spyderco Street Beat, or a Boker Plus Mosier.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
http://www.knifeart.com/stknwpragrco.html
The Strider WP series is what I carry with me for a fixed blade with a blade below 4 inches. For knives on my gear I have an old Puma White Hunter that my dad carried in Vietnam.
http://www.knifeart.com/stknwpragrco.html
The Strider WP series is what I carry with me for a fixed blade with a blade below 4 inches. For knives on my gear I have an old Puma White Hunter that my dad carried in Vietnam.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
ESEE-3 or ESEE-4
They are a 1095 carbon steel and unreal sharp.
http://www.eseeknives.com/index2.htm
xdeano
ESEE-3 or ESEE-4
They are a 1095 carbon steel and unreal sharp.
http://www.eseeknives.com/index2.htm
xdeano
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
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This should meet your request nice knives...
http://www.cartercutlery.com/japanese-knives/neck-knives
This should meet your request nice knives...
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
MCL §750.226 provides that “Any person who, with intent to use the same unlawfully against the person of another, goes armed with a pistol or other firearm or dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto, or knife having a blade over 3 inches in length, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument, shall be guilty of a [five year] felony...”
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Bottom line: I wouldn’t carry a knife for self-defense unless I was prohibited from carrying a gun. </div></div>
If you're carrying a knife with the intent to use it unlawfully against another person, I think you should be locked up regardless of the details.
I also don't think it's wise to carry a knife for self-defense, but I also don't think that'd be any sort of "unlawful intent."
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
MCL §750.226 provides that “Any person who, with intent to use the same unlawfully against the person of another, goes armed with a pistol or other firearm or dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto, or knife having a blade over 3 inches in length, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument, shall be guilty of a [five year] felony...”
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Bottom line: I wouldn’t carry a knife for self-defense unless I was prohibited from carrying a gun. </div></div>
If you're carrying a knife with the intent to use it unlawfully against another person, I think you should be locked up regardless of the details.
I also don't think it's wise to carry a knife for self-defense, but I also don't think that'd be any sort of "unlawful intent."
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
I run with a Steve Woods "Hide Hunter". Size wise is perfect for me and it's a great blade.
OAL is just shy of 9"
Blade is 4"
I'll get a couple pics loaded up tomorrow if your interested. I highly suggest looking into one.
http://rockriveriron.com/available_hunter.php
I run with a Steve Woods "Hide Hunter". Size wise is perfect for me and it's a great blade.
OAL is just shy of 9"
Blade is 4"
I'll get a couple pics loaded up tomorrow if your interested. I highly suggest looking into one.
http://rockriveriron.com/available_hunter.php
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
I went with the ESEE 3... probably should have gotten the Izula instead though. While the 3 is a badass knife, it is larger than I wanted so it went onto my gear rather than on my belt & does not get carried everyday.
... the search continues.
I went with the ESEE 3... probably should have gotten the Izula instead though. While the 3 is a badass knife, it is larger than I wanted so it went onto my gear rather than on my belt & does not get carried everyday.
... the search continues.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nashlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim, is the Tracker Dan Bloodshark the knife with the green paracord wrapping in the first picture? That is an AWESOME looking knife("awesome" is overused, but applicable in this case).</div></div>
Thanks dude!
I'll have an article coming out on it soon. REALLY well thought out design.
Really optimized for concealed carry. Some high speed covert/UC guys are using them overseas for concealment work.
Tracker Dan is working on a bigger version of it for overt/offensive carry (~9" overall length, handle is about .5" longer, blade is just about 2" longer).
The handle is minimal in length so it's harder for someone to grab/strip out of your hand. Optimized for a thumb cap in reverse grip and palm assisted shots in forward grip. Handle is cone shaped moving towards the blade to reduce the likelyhood of riding the blade if you hit a hard object during a thrust. The tail is flared out to give you more bite on the draw. OAL is kept to minimum to retain as much concealment as possible while giving enough blade length to reach most every vital target in the body.
Very much a weapon, from start to finish.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nashlaw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim, is the Tracker Dan Bloodshark the knife with the green paracord wrapping in the first picture? That is an AWESOME looking knife("awesome" is overused, but applicable in this case).</div></div>
Thanks dude!
I'll have an article coming out on it soon. REALLY well thought out design.
Really optimized for concealed carry. Some high speed covert/UC guys are using them overseas for concealment work.
Tracker Dan is working on a bigger version of it for overt/offensive carry (~9" overall length, handle is about .5" longer, blade is just about 2" longer).
The handle is minimal in length so it's harder for someone to grab/strip out of your hand. Optimized for a thumb cap in reverse grip and palm assisted shots in forward grip. Handle is cone shaped moving towards the blade to reduce the likelyhood of riding the blade if you hit a hard object during a thrust. The tail is flared out to give you more bite on the draw. OAL is kept to minimum to retain as much concealment as possible while giving enough blade length to reach most every vital target in the body.
Very much a weapon, from start to finish.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
You guys are helping me lighten my wallet. I am liking several of these designs a lot.
Anyone else have a favorite?
You guys are helping me lighten my wallet. I am liking several of these designs a lot.
Anyone else have a favorite?
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
I really like the Strider, but I think I am going to get an Esee knife for starters. I am impressed with the Izula for its small size and apparent quality. The R3 looks nice, too.
Thank you all for your input.
I really like the Strider, but I think I am going to get an Esee knife for starters. I am impressed with the Izula for its small size and apparent quality. The R3 looks nice, too.
Thank you all for your input.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Esee izula </div></div>
What he said
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Esee izula </div></div>
What he said
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.
I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.</div></div> Have you figured out how to carry that yet?
Large karambits can be tough to conceal in sheaths that are easy to get to and fast to deploy.
If you've got it worked out, I'm interested to see what you have in mind. Thinking about adding a small one myself, to carry.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.</div></div> Have you figured out how to carry that yet?
Large karambits can be tough to conceal in sheaths that are easy to get to and fast to deploy.
If you've got it worked out, I'm interested to see what you have in mind. Thinking about adding a small one myself, to carry.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
OK, I had time to snap a few quick pictures. Enjoy.
The Woods Hide Hunter rides quite well for me, just high enough and out of the way. I wear a London Bridge Trading LBT-6094M plate carrier and the knife sets nicely just under it when riding in the truck and walking without any issue of poking or getting caught up. Also the kydex carrier Steve supplies has plenty of adjustment and can be changed from a left hand carry to a right hand carry by just unscrewing and moving the bracket from one side to the other.(pictured).
Any questions feel free to ask.
OK, I had time to snap a few quick pictures. Enjoy.
The Woods Hide Hunter rides quite well for me, just high enough and out of the way. I wear a London Bridge Trading LBT-6094M plate carrier and the knife sets nicely just under it when riding in the truck and walking without any issue of poking or getting caught up. Also the kydex carrier Steve supplies has plenty of adjustment and can be changed from a left hand carry to a right hand carry by just unscrewing and moving the bracket from one side to the other.(pictured).
Any questions feel free to ask.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
I carry a straight razor on me somewere all the time. short,flat and will cut you before you know it.
I carry a straight razor on me somewere all the time. short,flat and will cut you before you know it.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim D</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.</div></div> Have you figured out how to carry that yet?
Large karambits can be tough to conceal in sheaths that are easy to get to and fast to deploy.
If you've got it worked out, I'm interested to see what you have in mind. Thinking about adding a small one myself, to carry. </div></div>
I wasn't going to conceal it 100%. Mostly, it would be back up if someone grabbed for my gun.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim D</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.</div></div> Have you figured out how to carry that yet?
Large karambits can be tough to conceal in sheaths that are easy to get to and fast to deploy.
If you've got it worked out, I'm interested to see what you have in mind. Thinking about adding a small one myself, to carry. </div></div>
I wasn't going to conceal it 100%. Mostly, it would be back up if someone grabbed for my gun.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CTone</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Esee izula </div></div>
What he said
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how are you carrying that izula?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CTone</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Esee izula </div></div>
What he said
how are you carrying that izula?
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
Like this:
The Izula comes with the kydex sheath, and I used a metal clip from a cheap no-name holster with some chicago screws from a Blackhawk holster and fastened it myself. I had to drill holes in the metal clip that lined up with the two slots on the sheath. It's damned secure, and I can wear it in the front like in my first picture, or put it SOB for a left hand draw.
***ETA: If you wrap the handle of the Izula with cord like I did and leave the tail hanging off, it will print when you have a T-shirt over it. I would leave off the tail if you are looking for concealment.
Like this:
The Izula comes with the kydex sheath, and I used a metal clip from a cheap no-name holster with some chicago screws from a Blackhawk holster and fastened it myself. I had to drill holes in the metal clip that lined up with the two slots on the sheath. It's damned secure, and I can wear it in the front like in my first picture, or put it SOB for a left hand draw.
***ETA: If you wrap the handle of the Izula with cord like I did and leave the tail hanging off, it will print when you have a T-shirt over it. I would leave off the tail if you are looking for concealment.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
i wish i could carry a fixed blade, i live in cali, can you tell?
i wish i could carry a fixed blade, i live in cali, can you tell?
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
mydogsmonkey-"i wish i could carry a fixed blade, i live in cali, can you tell?" I live in Cali as well and i believe the law states you can have any length fixed blade on person just as long as it is not concealed so just wear it exposed and you are good to go.
mydogsmonkey-"i wish i could carry a fixed blade, i live in cali, can you tell?" I live in Cali as well and i believe the law states you can have any length fixed blade on person just as long as it is not concealed so just wear it exposed and you are good to go.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim D</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.</div></div> Have you figured out how to carry that yet?
Large karambits can be tough to conceal in sheaths that are easy to get to and fast to deploy.
If you've got it worked out, I'm interested to see what you have in mind. Thinking about adding a small one myself, to carry. </div></div>
Finally found one in stock, but went with the folder instead which IS easy to hide.
I know it isn't a fixed blade, but it seems as solid as the other plus it is easy to conceal.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim D</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Falar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I want to, but currently don't because the knife I want (emerson fixed blade karambit) seems to never be in stock.</div></div> Have you figured out how to carry that yet?
Large karambits can be tough to conceal in sheaths that are easy to get to and fast to deploy.
If you've got it worked out, I'm interested to see what you have in mind. Thinking about adding a small one myself, to carry. </div></div>
Finally found one in stock, but went with the folder instead which IS easy to hide.
I know it isn't a fixed blade, but it seems as solid as the other plus it is easy to conceal.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ESEE-3 or ESEE-4
They are a 1095 carbon steel and unreal sharp.
http://www.eseeknives.com/index2.htm
xdeano </div></div>
I have to agree with this. Also 1095 is real easy to resharpen. I have an ESEE-3 and its smaller sibling the IZULA.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ESEE-3 or ESEE-4
They are a 1095 carbon steel and unreal sharp.
http://www.eseeknives.com/index2.htm
xdeano </div></div>
I have to agree with this. Also 1095 is real easy to resharpen. I have an ESEE-3 and its smaller sibling the IZULA.
Re: Fixed Blade for Daily Carry
i carry a emerson everyday, i have two of them, they are faster then any auto i've owned out of the pocket, easy to use one handed, and emerson stands behind their product 110 percent. don't see myself carrying anything but emerson anytime soon.
i carry a emerson everyday, i have two of them, they are faster then any auto i've owned out of the pocket, easy to use one handed, and emerson stands behind their product 110 percent. don't see myself carrying anything but emerson anytime soon.
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+1 for Emerson. I have carried one for years and it has stood up to a lot of abuse. The wave feature is very fast.
+1 for Emerson. I have carried one for years and it has stood up to a lot of abuse. The wave feature is very fast.
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Heh,heh, thanks! If I could get more time to work on 'em, I would. It's been weeks since I could get in the shop and do some grinding. Sold a few on bladeforums, but I've only completed about 7 knives so far.
Heh,heh, thanks! If I could get more time to work on 'em, I would. It's been weeks since I could get in the shop and do some grinding. Sold a few on bladeforums, but I've only completed about 7 knives so far.
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I almost always carry a Cold Steel Desperado inside the waistband at the 4:00 position. And I switch between an Izula or Emerson folder for my weakside carry.
I almost always carry a Cold Steel Desperado inside the waistband at the 4:00 position. And I switch between an Izula or Emerson folder for my weakside carry.
