Has anybody used flitz in your case tumbler to help polish the brass? Or what are some of the favorites among the reloaders on snipershide?
Flitz in a case tumbler?????
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Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
I started buying my walnut shells at industrial safety suppliers. 50 pounds cost either $12.50 or $25.00. As I buy 100 pounds at a time, it has been so long I can't remember which one it is..Sorry. But I can assure you, it is REALLY cheap. Usually, when I buy two bags, I split up the second one, and take it to a rifle match in large gallon zip lock bags and give some of it to guys who don't know where to find it.
I started buying my walnut shells at industrial safety suppliers. 50 pounds cost either $12.50 or $25.00. As I buy 100 pounds at a time, it has been so long I can't remember which one it is..Sorry. But I can assure you, it is REALLY cheap. Usually, when I buy two bags, I split up the second one, and take it to a rifle match in large gallon zip lock bags and give some of it to guys who don't know where to find it.
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
I prefer to avoid getting abrasives near my rifle or ammo. While it's great for the outside of the case, it's also getting into it.
I'm not sure where it's going after that, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to be helpful when it gets there.
I prefer to add mild acidics to the media, usually by spraying the media with diluted vinegar while it's agitating prior to adding the brass. I use a recycled Windex sprayer, and wait a few minutes while the media agitates and finishes any swelling before adding the brass. If it's still swelling when it get into the brass, it gets packed inside and becomes a major crotch ache.
The vinegar will chemically reduce the oxide. Anything with ammonia (including Windex, Brasso, and maybe Flitz) can attack and weaken brass.
Greg
I prefer to avoid getting abrasives near my rifle or ammo. While it's great for the outside of the case, it's also getting into it.
I'm not sure where it's going after that, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to be helpful when it gets there.
I prefer to add mild acidics to the media, usually by spraying the media with diluted vinegar while it's agitating prior to adding the brass. I use a recycled Windex sprayer, and wait a few minutes while the media agitates and finishes any swelling before adding the brass. If it's still swelling when it get into the brass, it gets packed inside and becomes a major crotch ache.
The vinegar will chemically reduce the oxide. Anything with ammonia (including Windex, Brasso, and maybe Flitz) can attack and weaken brass.
Greg
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
Greg, mixed in with a little graphite in the powder it probably works out about even, huh?
Greg, mixed in with a little graphite in the powder it probably works out about even, huh?
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
Diatoms/diatomite, diatomaceous earth, Fuller's earth are all names for a mild abrasive. It's used in toothpaste, polishes/waxes, dynamite, and I wouldn't be too surprised to find it's the abrasive ingredient used in JB compound.
If you absolutely <span style="font-style: italic">had</span> to add an abrasive to your media, I imagine this one might be less destructive.
Greg
Diatoms/diatomite, diatomaceous earth, Fuller's earth are all names for a mild abrasive. It's used in toothpaste, polishes/waxes, dynamite, and I wouldn't be too surprised to find it's the abrasive ingredient used in JB compound.
If you absolutely <span style="font-style: italic">had</span> to add an abrasive to your media, I imagine this one might be less destructive.
Greg
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
http://www.flitz.com/p-26-tumblermedia-additive.aspx
No ammonia according to flitz
http://www.flitz.com/p-26-tumblermedia-additive.aspx
No ammonia according to flitz
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
Flitz is ammonia based, and that is not good on brass.
I use Turtle Wax liquid polishing compound.....
Cheers,
LG
Flitz is ammonia based, and that is not good on brass.
I use Turtle Wax liquid polishing compound.....
Cheers,
LG
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
Do NOT use DE...
It will imbed in the brass and ware and may scratch your dies.
And just what do you think that brass does when you fire it?
Where do people come up with this stuff.........
DE is a filter
Do NOT use DE...
It will imbed in the brass and ware and may scratch your dies.
And just what do you think that brass does when you fire it?
Where do people come up with this stuff.........
DE is a filter
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NuFinish car wax works great with walnut shells from the pet store, but SS Media really does kick ass </div></div>
That's the route I went. NuFinish then went to SS media and will never got back.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NuFinish car wax works great with walnut shells from the pet store, but SS Media really does kick ass </div></div>
That's the route I went. NuFinish then went to SS media and will never got back.
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
DE is a lot of things.
For one, it is a lot gentler than Jewler's Rouge, which is a common component in some commercial tumbler media. Unlike more aggressive abrasives, it is non-embedding; and nobody ever suggested using the brass without wiping off any residue.
Next time, please do your research like I did, before you decide I need to be contradicted.
Greg
DE is a lot of things.
For one, it is a lot gentler than Jewler's Rouge, which is a common component in some commercial tumbler media. Unlike more aggressive abrasives, it is non-embedding; and nobody ever suggested using the brass without wiping off any residue.
Next time, please do your research like I did, before you decide I need to be contradicted.
Greg
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lumpy grits</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Flitz is ammonia based, and that is not good on brass.
I use Turtle Wax liquid polishing compound.....
Cheers,
LG
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I was in ERROR....
What I was thinking was Flitz. What I was REALLY remembering was a product called "Semi-Chrome".
SORRY FOLKS
LG
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lumpy grits</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Flitz is ammonia based, and that is not good on brass.
I use Turtle Wax liquid polishing compound.....
Cheers,
LG
</div></div>
I was in ERROR....
What I was thinking was Flitz. What I was REALLY remembering was a product called "Semi-Chrome".
SORRY FOLKS
LG
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DE is a lot of things.
For one, it is a lot gentler than Jewler's Rouge, which is a common component in some commercial tumbler media. Unlike more aggressive abrasives, it is non-embedding; and nobody ever suggested using the brass without wiping off any residue.
Next time, please do your research like I did, before you decide I need to be contradicted.
Greg </div></div>
You are welcomed to use what ever you like.
Just because you wipe the case off does not mean you have removed it all.
I maybe shocked if I ever learn what is in the Turtle Wax liq. Rubbing Compound that I have used for years and years.
Respectfully,
LG
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DE is a lot of things.
For one, it is a lot gentler than Jewler's Rouge, which is a common component in some commercial tumbler media. Unlike more aggressive abrasives, it is non-embedding; and nobody ever suggested using the brass without wiping off any residue.
Next time, please do your research like I did, before you decide I need to be contradicted.
Greg </div></div>
You are welcomed to use what ever you like.
Just because you wipe the case off does not mean you have removed it all.
I maybe shocked if I ever learn what is in the Turtle Wax liq. Rubbing Compound that I have used for years and years.
Respectfully,
LG
Re: Flitz in a case tumbler?????
Gregg: "<span style="font-style: italic">diatomaceous earth,.. used in toothpaste, polishes/waxes, I wouldn't be too surprised to find it's the abrasive ingredient used in JB compound</span>."
It is in JB, at least that's said to be the active part. It's harmless to teeth, paint, plastics and steel because the soft little bitty sea shells it's made from will fracture into a superfine dust quite easily. I suspect it is the working part of many auto polishes too, the light cream colored ones, but I'm not interested enough to find out; who cares, it works!
I have no use for an artifical looking glittery shine on my cases so I just use a couple tablespoonfulls of diatomaceous earth in my tumber media. D.E. leaves my cases with a clean, soft sheen exactly like the factory finish. In fact, I strongly suspect that's what the factories use in their final tumble. With Lumpy's kind permission to use what I like, I will indeed continue to use DE.
Flitz is as good a shiney metal polish as any but more costly than any others I know of, and for no advantage I can see.
Gregg: "<span style="font-style: italic">diatomaceous earth,.. used in toothpaste, polishes/waxes, I wouldn't be too surprised to find it's the abrasive ingredient used in JB compound</span>."
It is in JB, at least that's said to be the active part. It's harmless to teeth, paint, plastics and steel because the soft little bitty sea shells it's made from will fracture into a superfine dust quite easily. I suspect it is the working part of many auto polishes too, the light cream colored ones, but I'm not interested enough to find out; who cares, it works!
I have no use for an artifical looking glittery shine on my cases so I just use a couple tablespoonfulls of diatomaceous earth in my tumber media. D.E. leaves my cases with a clean, soft sheen exactly like the factory finish. In fact, I strongly suspect that's what the factories use in their final tumble. With Lumpy's kind permission to use what I like, I will indeed continue to use DE.
Flitz is as good a shiney metal polish as any but more costly than any others I know of, and for no advantage I can see.
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