Looking for the 20" fluted barrel in .308. Where is the best place to purchase this rifle.( Price, fast shipping and customer service?? ) All help will be greatly appreciated.
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FN SPR A1a
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Re: FN SPR A1a
The differences between the SPR and the TSR-XP are many. The SPRs are all trued actions, chrome-lined bores, heavier barrels, McMillan stocks, M-70 two-lever style trigger, guarranteed to shoot under 1 MOA at 100 yards with factory match ammo. Ships with factory test target. Many shoot well under the 1 MOA threshhold.
The TSR-XPs are not trued, the barrels are not chrome lined and are much lighter (medium varmint weight), Hogue Overmold stock, three-lever Tactical Sport Trigger. The TSRs are guarranteed to deliver 1.5 MOA at 100 yards (many shoot much better than this). Does not ship with a test target.
The differences above dictate the price difference. What they do have in common is the magazine assemblies, DBM. They both ship with a steel 20MOA optical rail, all have the forged one-piece receiver that has a claw extractor and blade ejector for both controlled round feed, but also controlled round ejection.
Hope this helps.
The differences between the SPR and the TSR-XP are many. The SPRs are all trued actions, chrome-lined bores, heavier barrels, McMillan stocks, M-70 two-lever style trigger, guarranteed to shoot under 1 MOA at 100 yards with factory match ammo. Ships with factory test target. Many shoot well under the 1 MOA threshhold.
The TSR-XPs are not trued, the barrels are not chrome lined and are much lighter (medium varmint weight), Hogue Overmold stock, three-lever Tactical Sport Trigger. The TSRs are guarranteed to deliver 1.5 MOA at 100 yards (many shoot much better than this). Does not ship with a test target.
The differences above dictate the price difference. What they do have in common is the magazine assemblies, DBM. They both ship with a steel 20MOA optical rail, all have the forged one-piece receiver that has a claw extractor and blade ejector for both controlled round feed, but also controlled round ejection.
Hope this helps.
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The differences between the SPR and the TSR-XP are many. The SPRs are all trued actions, chrome-lined bores, heavier barrels, McMillan stocks, M-70 two-lever style trigger, guarranteed to shoot under 1 MOA at 100 yards with factory match ammo. Ships with factory test target. Many shoot well under the 1 MOA threshhold.
The TSR-XPs are not trued, the barrels are not chrome lined and are much lighter (medium varmint weight), Hogue Overmold stock, three-lever Tactical Sport Trigger. The TSRs are guarranteed to deliver 1.5 MOA at 100 yards (many shoot much better than this). Does not ship with a test target.
The differences above dictate the price difference. What they do have in common is the magazine assemblies, DBM. They both ship with a steel 20MOA optical rail, all have the forged one-piece receiver that has a claw extractor and blade ejector for both controlled round feed, but also controlled round ejection.
Hope this helps. </div></div>
Glad to see a FNH USA employee here, maybe you can chime in and explain how the under 1moa guarantee works. So I have my FN SPR, for some reason I can't get the rifle to shoot under 1 moa and from the looks of it. The test shooter also had a hard time(look at the test target and notice that he cut out the bottom shot to make it a -1moa target)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The differences between the SPR and the TSR-XP are many. The SPRs are all trued actions, chrome-lined bores, heavier barrels, McMillan stocks, M-70 two-lever style trigger, guarranteed to shoot under 1 MOA at 100 yards with factory match ammo. Ships with factory test target. Many shoot well under the 1 MOA threshhold.
The TSR-XPs are not trued, the barrels are not chrome lined and are much lighter (medium varmint weight), Hogue Overmold stock, three-lever Tactical Sport Trigger. The TSRs are guarranteed to deliver 1.5 MOA at 100 yards (many shoot much better than this). Does not ship with a test target.
The differences above dictate the price difference. What they do have in common is the magazine assemblies, DBM. They both ship with a steel 20MOA optical rail, all have the forged one-piece receiver that has a claw extractor and blade ejector for both controlled round feed, but also controlled round ejection.
Hope this helps. </div></div>
Glad to see a FNH USA employee here, maybe you can chime in and explain how the under 1moa guarantee works. So I have my FN SPR, for some reason I can't get the rifle to shoot under 1 moa and from the looks of it. The test shooter also had a hard time(look at the test target and notice that he cut out the bottom shot to make it a -1moa target)
Re: FN SPR A1a
Lazy21
Here is what happend to me and my FN SPR A1. Mine happens to be an early build. I couldnt get it to shoot under 1.5 moa so I was kinda pissed about it. I did a home bedding job with the aqua glass and it tightend up, really tightend up. I have NO trouble knocking out 5 round 1/2 and under groups with the same lot of handloads that I couldnt get to shoot prior to bedding. The Mc Millan stock was looser than a two dollar whore with the action bolts floating around freely. Im not sure if you have a factory bedded model or not. I heard they started doing it later in production.
Lazy21
Here is what happend to me and my FN SPR A1. Mine happens to be an early build. I couldnt get it to shoot under 1.5 moa so I was kinda pissed about it. I did a home bedding job with the aqua glass and it tightend up, really tightend up. I have NO trouble knocking out 5 round 1/2 and under groups with the same lot of handloads that I couldnt get to shoot prior to bedding. The Mc Millan stock was looser than a two dollar whore with the action bolts floating around freely. Im not sure if you have a factory bedded model or not. I heard they started doing it later in production.
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JPipes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Juli -
Did you let someone else shoot it to verify? </div></div>
No, I have not. I'm sure it's not me, here is my target on my other FN(5 shots)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JPipes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Juli -
Did you let someone else shoot it to verify? </div></div>
No, I have not. I'm sure it's not me, here is my target on my other FN(5 shots)
Re: FN SPR A1a
Appears one of your rifles is extremely accurate, If I purchase a SPR I hope to receive one as accurate as the 5 shot group in single hole you own. That is great shooting and an outstanding rifle!!
Appears one of your rifles is extremely accurate, If I purchase a SPR I hope to receive one as accurate as the 5 shot group in single hole you own. That is great shooting and an outstanding rifle!!
Re: FN SPR A1a
Benjamin, are the 10 round magazines available now?
Will a kit be available to retrofit SPRs with the current DBM bottom to the new one that takes the 10 round mags?
TIA
Benjamin, are the 10 round magazines available now?
Will a kit be available to retrofit SPRs with the current DBM bottom to the new one that takes the 10 round mags?
TIA
Re: FN SPR A1a
I was trying to get some loads worked up yesterday, no luck. Worst case, I'll yank the barrel off and maybe turn it to a 260
I was trying to get some loads worked up yesterday, no luck. Worst case, I'll yank the barrel off and maybe turn it to a 260
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was trying to get some loads worked up yesterday, no luck. Worst case, I'll yank the barrel off and maybe turn it to a 260
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Yep..that's about what mine looks like. I, too, would like some input. My A3G's test target shows it was fired at 50y, not 100, which I find a little hinky.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was trying to get some loads worked up yesterday, no luck. Worst case, I'll yank the barrel off and maybe turn it to a 260
Yep..that's about what mine looks like. I, too, would like some input. My A3G's test target shows it was fired at 50y, not 100, which I find a little hinky.
Re: FN SPR A1a
Julio,
Your SPR should shoot much better than your targets indicate. Before you do any work on it, such as bedding or rebarreling, consider sending it back to FNH for a look. If you want a .260 Remngton, I'd say this would be a good candidate since you'd rebarrel and likely bed the action anyway. I have rebarreled SPRs in .260 Rem. and 6.5 CM and they work and shoot great. If you want the .308 it was chambered in, give FNH's Customer Service Department a chance to make it right for you. An accuracy issue will likley result in a replaced rifle. Be warned that some stock options from the mid 2000s (A4s)are not currently available and would be replaced with a similar current model.
Your rifle (FN14074)was built in USRAC in New Haven, CT some time in the early to mid 2000s. During this time a single five shot group under 1 MOA sufficed for the qualification. Now, production at FNM in Columbia, SC four 3 shot groups are fired and averaged. The average must be below 1 MOA and the customer gets the best group with the rifle.
Hope this helps more.
Quiet shooter: not sure why your A3G was qualified at only 50 yards. All of my experience with these was done at 100 yards. Some standard SPRs were qualified at 50 yards during the down time between USRAC and FNM.
Julio,
Your SPR should shoot much better than your targets indicate. Before you do any work on it, such as bedding or rebarreling, consider sending it back to FNH for a look. If you want a .260 Remngton, I'd say this would be a good candidate since you'd rebarrel and likely bed the action anyway. I have rebarreled SPRs in .260 Rem. and 6.5 CM and they work and shoot great. If you want the .308 it was chambered in, give FNH's Customer Service Department a chance to make it right for you. An accuracy issue will likley result in a replaced rifle. Be warned that some stock options from the mid 2000s (A4s)are not currently available and would be replaced with a similar current model.
Your rifle (FN14074)was built in USRAC in New Haven, CT some time in the early to mid 2000s. During this time a single five shot group under 1 MOA sufficed for the qualification. Now, production at FNM in Columbia, SC four 3 shot groups are fired and averaged. The average must be below 1 MOA and the customer gets the best group with the rifle.
Hope this helps more.
Quiet shooter: not sure why your A3G was qualified at only 50 yards. All of my experience with these was done at 100 yards. Some standard SPRs were qualified at 50 yards during the down time between USRAC and FNM.
Re: FN SPR A1a
TIA,
The five and ten round TBM magazines are available. The do not fit the DBM outfitted rifles, however. TBM magazines require the TBM bottom metal. TBM is currently available in SPR-A5s. The TBM will fit the SPR DBM inlet without modification to the rifle or stock. It will fit TSRs and PBRs with the DBM with a slight amount of modification to the inside of the stock's magazine inlet. It will not fit hinged floorplate and WSM rifles.
Now, the most pressing question: When will it be available as a retrofit kit? FNH has plans for it to launch this spring. I know many of you are rolling your eyes as FNH has talked about this product for some time with no deliveries. It is coming, for sure. Its in the 2012 catalog. Look for it to be advertised right here on Snipers Hide. My apologies for the delay. It is long overdue.
TIA,
The five and ten round TBM magazines are available. The do not fit the DBM outfitted rifles, however. TBM magazines require the TBM bottom metal. TBM is currently available in SPR-A5s. The TBM will fit the SPR DBM inlet without modification to the rifle or stock. It will fit TSRs and PBRs with the DBM with a slight amount of modification to the inside of the stock's magazine inlet. It will not fit hinged floorplate and WSM rifles.
Now, the most pressing question: When will it be available as a retrofit kit? FNH has plans for it to launch this spring. I know many of you are rolling your eyes as FNH has talked about this product for some time with no deliveries. It is coming, for sure. Its in the 2012 catalog. Look for it to be advertised right here on Snipers Hide. My apologies for the delay. It is long overdue.
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Julio,
Your SPR should shoot much better than your targets indicate. Before you do any work on it, such as bedding or rebarreling, consider sending it back to FNH for a look </div></div>
I really doubt they'll do anything for me, I threaded the barrel for a can(barrel was never pulled off) and machined the action to accept the aics mags. So in FNH eye's, warranty has been voided.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Julio,
Your SPR should shoot much better than your targets indicate. Before you do any work on it, such as bedding or rebarreling, consider sending it back to FNH for a look </div></div>
I really doubt they'll do anything for me, I threaded the barrel for a can(barrel was never pulled off) and machined the action to accept the aics mags. So in FNH eye's, warranty has been voided.
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, machine work to the barrel and action will void your warranty. </div></div>
perfect excuse to order a rock
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, machine work to the barrel and action will void your warranty. </div></div>
perfect excuse to order a rock
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The differences between the SPR and the TSR-XP are many. The SPRs are all trued actions, chrome-lined bores, heavier barrels, McMillan stocks, M-70 two-lever style trigger, guarranteed to shoot under 1 MOA at 100 yards with factory match ammo. Ships with factory test target. Many shoot well under the 1 MOA threshhold.
The TSR-XPs are not trued, the barrels are not chrome lined and are much lighter (medium varmint weight), Hogue Overmold stock, three-lever Tactical Sport Trigger. The TSRs are guarranteed to deliver 1.5 MOA at 100 yards (many shoot much better than this). Does not ship with a test target.
The differences above dictate the price difference. What they do have in common is the magazine assemblies, DBM. They both ship with a steel 20MOA optical rail, all have the forged one-piece receiver that has a claw extractor and blade ejector for both controlled round feed, but also controlled round ejection.
Hope this helps. </div></div>
The problem in Australia is that there $1200 difference between the TSR-XP and the SPR, in the U.S. it's closer to $700.
TSR-XP - $1590
SPR A1 - $2790
Still worth it? Also i want a .300wsm.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The differences between the SPR and the TSR-XP are many. The SPRs are all trued actions, chrome-lined bores, heavier barrels, McMillan stocks, M-70 two-lever style trigger, guarranteed to shoot under 1 MOA at 100 yards with factory match ammo. Ships with factory test target. Many shoot well under the 1 MOA threshhold.
The TSR-XPs are not trued, the barrels are not chrome lined and are much lighter (medium varmint weight), Hogue Overmold stock, three-lever Tactical Sport Trigger. The TSRs are guarranteed to deliver 1.5 MOA at 100 yards (many shoot much better than this). Does not ship with a test target.
The differences above dictate the price difference. What they do have in common is the magazine assemblies, DBM. They both ship with a steel 20MOA optical rail, all have the forged one-piece receiver that has a claw extractor and blade ejector for both controlled round feed, but also controlled round ejection.
Hope this helps. </div></div>
The problem in Australia is that there $1200 difference between the TSR-XP and the SPR, in the U.S. it's closer to $700.
TSR-XP - $1590
SPR A1 - $2790
Still worth it? Also i want a .300wsm.
Re: FN SPR A1a
That question is one you alone can answer. Do the SPR's features warrent the cost increase for you?
To help you decide, perhaps some clarification. The SPR-A1a (#75510) is not available in .300 WSM, but the TSR-XP (#75424) is. The SPR-A5 (#75536) can be had in .300 WSM but with an adjustable McMillan stock which will increase the price and weight a bit more.
That question is one you alone can answer. Do the SPR's features warrent the cost increase for you?
To help you decide, perhaps some clarification. The SPR-A1a (#75510) is not available in .300 WSM, but the TSR-XP (#75424) is. The SPR-A5 (#75536) can be had in .300 WSM but with an adjustable McMillan stock which will increase the price and weight a bit more.
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, machine work to the barrel and action will void your warranty. </div></div>
Kick ass.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, machine work to the barrel and action will void your warranty. </div></div>
Kick ass.
Re: FN SPR A1a
Check the FNH USA website and use the dealer locator at the top of the home page. Southern Florida is full of stocking dealers who will likely have what you need on the shelf.
http://www.fnhusa.com/le/locatezip.asp?z...geo_search.y=17
Check the FNH USA website and use the dealer locator at the top of the home page. Southern Florida is full of stocking dealers who will likely have what you need on the shelf.
http://www.fnhusa.com/le/locatezip.asp?z...geo_search.y=17
Re: FN SPR A1a
Called most of the dealers for FN listed on FN's site and they do not have them and some do not know what it is.
Called most of the dealers for FN listed on FN's site and they do not have them and some do not know what it is.
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: perazzisc3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who carries the SPR A1a in .308 [20" fluted] ( reputable and fast shipper )</div></div>
hey bud, I can get you one. Send me a pm
(update on my spr with jewell trigger)
I just got back from the range and groups did get a little tighter. Seems like 43 grains Varget is the winner(bottom left and center), the bottom left is @ 2.8 and the center is 2.85 oval. Seems like I need to play with the seating depth. I don't know what caused the shift on the center target?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: perazzisc3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who carries the SPR A1a in .308 [20" fluted] ( reputable and fast shipper )</div></div>
hey bud, I can get you one. Send me a pm
(update on my spr with jewell trigger)
I just got back from the range and groups did get a little tighter. Seems like 43 grains Varget is the winner(bottom left and center), the bottom left is @ 2.8 and the center is 2.85 oval. Seems like I need to play with the seating depth. I don't know what caused the shift on the center target?
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: perazzisc3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who carries the SPR A1a in .308 [20" fluted] ( reputable and fast shipper )</div></div>
hey bud, I can get you one. Send me a pm
(update on my spr with jewell trigger)
I just got back from the range and groups did get a little tighter. Seems like 43 grains Varget is the winner(bottom left and center), the bottom left is @ 2.8 and the center is 2.85 oval. Seems like I need to play with the seating depth. I don't know what caused the shift on the center target?
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What range is that fired at?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: perazzisc3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who carries the SPR A1a in .308 [20" fluted] ( reputable and fast shipper )</div></div>
hey bud, I can get you one. Send me a pm
(update on my spr with jewell trigger)
I just got back from the range and groups did get a little tighter. Seems like 43 grains Varget is the winner(bottom left and center), the bottom left is @ 2.8 and the center is 2.85 oval. Seems like I need to play with the seating depth. I don't know what caused the shift on the center target?
What range is that fired at?
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: perazzisc3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who carries the SPR A1a in .308 [20" fluted] ( reputable and fast shipper ) </div></div>
There are several on gunbroker in the $1,660-$1,700 range.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: perazzisc3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who carries the SPR A1a in .308 [20" fluted] ( reputable and fast shipper ) </div></div>
There are several on gunbroker in the $1,660-$1,700 range.
Re: FN SPR A1a
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, machine work to the barrel and action will void your warranty. </div></div>
Ben, is this a hard/fast/absolute rule, or is it decided on a case by case basis?
Obviously, setting the barrel back and rechambering will have an effect accuracy, and it would be hard to expect FNH to warranty that.
Conversely, peeling a few shavings of material out of the magwell of the receiver to accomodate the CDI bottom metal isn't affecting the integrity/accuracy of the rifle...? I would hope/think FN would warranty a peeling-chrome barrel issue regardless of whether or not someone installed a CDI bottom metal.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Action Guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, machine work to the barrel and action will void your warranty. </div></div>
Ben, is this a hard/fast/absolute rule, or is it decided on a case by case basis?
Obviously, setting the barrel back and rechambering will have an effect accuracy, and it would be hard to expect FNH to warranty that.
Conversely, peeling a few shavings of material out of the magwell of the receiver to accomodate the CDI bottom metal isn't affecting the integrity/accuracy of the rifle...? I would hope/think FN would warranty a peeling-chrome barrel issue regardless of whether or not someone installed a CDI bottom metal.
Re: FN SPR A1a
Customer Service does evaluate firearms for warranty on a case-by-case basis, however, machine work of any kind on the barrel or receiver would be hard to look past.
If you want service, its best to send it in and let Customer Service know what your issue and concerns are. Communication is the key to good customer service experience.
Customer Service does evaluate firearms for warranty on a case-by-case basis, however, machine work of any kind on the barrel or receiver would be hard to look past.
If you want service, its best to send it in and let Customer Service know what your issue and concerns are. Communication is the key to good customer service experience.
