FOIA Request Uncovers FBI Effort to Get Americans to Forfeit 2nd Amendment Rights

[PatMiles]

FOIA Request Shows FBI Effort to Get Americans to Forfeit 2A Rights

A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by Gun Owners of America (GOA) secured release of information surrounding a form which was used by the FBI in an effort to secure forfeiture of Second Amendment rights.

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A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by Gun Owners of America (GOA) secured release of information surrounding a form which was used by the FBI in an effort to secure forfeiture of Second Amendment rights.


Ammoland.com warned of the FBI effort in 2019, after GOA discovered the “NICS Indices Self-Submission Form” in December 2019.


The form gave Americans the opportunity to “voluntarily” give up their Second Amendment rights, allowing no means by which the forfeited rights could be resecured.


GOA filed a FOIA suit for information related to the form and its use by the FBI.

On September 6, 2022, the Daily Caller reported that GOA’s FOIA request revealed that the FBI actually took the form to the homes of some Americans, presenting those Americans with the option of giving up their Second Amendment rights:

The forms were presented by the FBI to people at their homes and in other undisclosed locations, according to bureau documents unearthed through the Freedom of Information Act by the firearm rights group GOA…At least 15 people between 2016 and 2019 signed the secret forms, which ask signatories to declare themselves as either a “danger” to themselves or others or lacking “mental capacity adequately to contract or manage” their lives.

On September 7, 2022, Breitbart News spoke with GOA VP Erich Pratt about the FBI effort and he said:

This self-reporting form became a tool for the FBI to pressure law-abiding Americans, who have committed no crimes, to voluntarily forfeit their Second Amendment rights. The agency would put the squeeze on people to surrender their rights, based simply on hearsay evidence. And then, just like Red Flag laws, a gun owner could lose their gun rights without ever appearing before a judge or jury.
Congress must investigate to ensure that this system and any forms tied to it have been destroyed, and most importantly, the officials responsible must be held to account for their actions which have betrayed the trust of the American people.

Pratt also noted, “This is just the latest example of the FBI going rogue and abusing their authority to the detriment of Americans’ Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Given the Bureau’s unwillingness to answer questions or cooperate with GOA’s investigation, coupled with a total lack of Congressional oversight, this system is likely to have been misused — and the FBI knows it.”

 

[camocorvette]

Fuck em

 

[mvphilly]

This FBI is worse than it was under Hoover.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

Breitbart = Fake News. None of what you hear and half of what you see.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/breitbart-fake-news-alex-marlow/

VooDoo

 

[GUN NUT in IA]

Anyone voluntarily forfeiting their 2nd Amendment rights . . . never really considered it a right anyway.

 

[msgriff]

Breitbart = Fake News. None of what you hear and half of what you see.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/breitbart-fake-news-alex-marlow/

VooDoo

Are you saying that what was reported is false, or is your post just another DU rant?

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

My only point is that Breitbart is biased and manipulates the news so be careful what you believe coming from that source. They are not reliable or to believed off hand. That's my only point.

VooDoo

 

[TurboTrout]

Breitbart = Fake News. None of what you hear and half of what you see.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/breitbart-fake-news-alex-marlow/

VooDoo

What does that have to do with the FOIA findings?

You’re saying the FOIA documents are a forgery?

 

[TurboTrout]

Anyone voluntarily forfeiting their 2nd Amendment rights . . . never really considered it a right anyway.

I could see the tactic, old person, some government asshat “here to help” with a stack of paperwork to sign to get that SS money you earned…you know for food and shit so you don’t have to eat your pets, this one sheet is between 30 other documents asked of a 80hr old to sign at 0900


“I just woke up, let me grab my glasses”

“Sir, I only have a limited about of time, if you don’t want to sign the documents now I can make another appointment for you in 8mo to a year to get your SS money”

 

[acudaowner]

lol

 

[nikerret]

If the form had to be signed in the presence of a “licensed physician or mental health professional“, was the FBI accompanied by such at peoples’ homes? Just leaving that part blank, until later? Were they going to specific homes or door to door, hitting neighborhoods like Jehovah’s Witnesses?

Regardless of those answers, what a complete failure of resource allocation. There are plenty of crimes that need solved. They should be doing that.

 

[TurboTrout]

If the form had to be signed in the presence of a “licensed physician or mental health professional“, was the FBI accompanied by such at peoples’ homes? Just leaving that part blank, until later? Were they going to specific homes or door to door, hitting neighborhoods like Jehovah’s Witnesses?

Regardless of those answers, what a complete failure of resource allocation. There are plenty of crimes that need solved. They should be doing that.

Some gov payroll doc in the box signs off based on prior a GS3s masterful medical impression based upon reading a GS2s comments from a conversation half a decade ago? Or something like that


Its much easier and less disappointing to just default to gov is trying to fuck you if GS9 or above and grossly incompetent if below

 

[NCHillbilly]

My only point is that Breitbart is biased and manipulates the news so be careful what you believe coming from that source. They are not reliable or to believed off hand. That's my only point.

VooDoo

Thank god they're the ONLY news source to do that.