Re: Former LEO gone crazy in SoCal
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: usmc02xx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
ok short list..
felony stopped and searched because i was parked at my 80 year old mothers house. her neighbor is "known drug dealer" according to the officer. So even though i was in her parking lot i was grabbed and had gun drawn on me.
Felony stopped and my beautiful colt kicked across pavement for a speeding ticket....
Jury duty where i was foreman seeing a kid (just turned 18) wait a year in jail to go to trial for assault on an officer. even though it was in a crowded parking lot not one person testified as a witness. only the officers word against his. Not even a pic.
Grand jury duty where for 3 months i saw 90%f cases that came in were for drug possession. The county needed money...
Daily news and driving through atlanta watching "red dog" lay smack down on perps or some shit like that. also usually possession. he regular cops do it also. One person i knew makes it a point to just grab warrants and go deliver them so he can "kick doors and shoot niggers". Yep great guy.
watching my BIL be scared for 2 years because the county kept saying they were going to prosecute him for murder in an obvious self defense case. they never did. but it cost him 30k in attorneys fees and lost his house. He shot a man, with a gun, in his house high on drugs that told his wife im going to kill your old man and then jumped him. the the tussle he got a round off point blank into the guys head.
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I could go on and on..
Your right,its not only just about the 2d amendment. Its about common human fucking decency. Did you ever stop to say this law (name any law) that you knew was stupid or unconstitutional but enforced it anyway? I know many who do, and the answer is always the same. I dont make the law, i enforce it. Well fucking goody for them. I dont want mindless enforcers, i want people who think and care about me and my rights. If you are one those people, awesome. glad to meet you.
I used to be a cop friendly person. Not so much anymore. What i learned of police (in atlanta anyway) is that they lie, commonly physically abuse people, are on power trips, steal and sell drugs and cash from people they "arrest" and are more that willing to falsify evidence and cover shit up. I know this because i saw my "friends" who were APD red dog do all that shit. And then brag and laugh about it to each other. The whole mindset was that they run shit. it was like a gang with badges. Mind you this is in atlanta. may be better where you are... But i doubt LAPD is any better.
you kind of sound like them with your previous post. Calling us sheep, or cowards who wouldnt do your job isnt really convincing me of your argument.
On a good note, i do know a local guy that was real down to earth decent dude, and didnt go out to make arrest. He didnt last long either. Didnt write enough tickets. He's PI now.
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Fair enough... I'm sorry you were stopped and treated like that. From what you've said about leaving your mothers house and getting stopped at gunpoint I'd have to say I don't agree with how it went down and agree its a violation of your fourth amendment rights. I do not make stops like that and you don't get my gun shoved in your face unless you are a high risk threat. Crack heads leaving dope houses don't usually rise to the felony stop level because they are users and don't often rise to that level of threat unless there is some further indication that the threat is present. I personally conduct any such stop the same with any other with the exeption of building on my investigation for illigal narcotics on top of whatever I stopped you for.
Drug cases.... Yeah there are tons of them and it's not money bro.... Crack heads spend it all on dope and don't tend to have much cash on hand to pay fines. Housing them in jail costs us even more money so they tend to be out in a month with probation. The real reason for the number of drug cases is its an easy felony arrest for Officers who play the company line for stats. Most of us that are out handleing calls hate those guys cause they screw making us cover calls in their areas.
We've had several self defense shootings in my area during my time on the street. None of them were charged and none of them were threatened. Thats just here so can't vouch for anywhere else but this place has gotten crazy liberal over the last few years and they still have not gone there and threatened people with charges for self defense shootings.
The sheep comment was sarcasim if you look at the tone of that entire statement and yes I called some of you out saying come change it from the inside if you think it's so bad.
I'm not one to go out to write tons of tickets or to go make BS arrests to add to my numbers and I still have my job....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: usmc02xx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
ok short list..
felony stopped and searched because i was parked at my 80 year old mothers house. her neighbor is "known drug dealer" according to the officer. So even though i was in her parking lot i was grabbed and had gun drawn on me.
Felony stopped and my beautiful colt kicked across pavement for a speeding ticket....
Jury duty where i was foreman seeing a kid (just turned 18) wait a year in jail to go to trial for assault on an officer. even though it was in a crowded parking lot not one person testified as a witness. only the officers word against his. Not even a pic.
Grand jury duty where for 3 months i saw 90%f cases that came in were for drug possession. The county needed money...
Daily news and driving through atlanta watching "red dog" lay smack down on perps or some shit like that. also usually possession. he regular cops do it also. One person i knew makes it a point to just grab warrants and go deliver them so he can "kick doors and shoot niggers". Yep great guy.
watching my BIL be scared for 2 years because the county kept saying they were going to prosecute him for murder in an obvious self defense case. they never did. but it cost him 30k in attorneys fees and lost his house. He shot a man, with a gun, in his house high on drugs that told his wife im going to kill your old man and then jumped him. the the tussle he got a round off point blank into the guys head.
REMOVED LINE HERE
I could go on and on..
Your right,its not only just about the 2d amendment. Its about common human fucking decency. Did you ever stop to say this law (name any law) that you knew was stupid or unconstitutional but enforced it anyway? I know many who do, and the answer is always the same. I dont make the law, i enforce it. Well fucking goody for them. I dont want mindless enforcers, i want people who think and care about me and my rights. If you are one those people, awesome. glad to meet you.
I used to be a cop friendly person. Not so much anymore. What i learned of police (in atlanta anyway) is that they lie, commonly physically abuse people, are on power trips, steal and sell drugs and cash from people they "arrest" and are more that willing to falsify evidence and cover shit up. I know this because i saw my "friends" who were APD red dog do all that shit. And then brag and laugh about it to each other. The whole mindset was that they run shit. it was like a gang with badges. Mind you this is in atlanta. may be better where you are... But i doubt LAPD is any better.
you kind of sound like them with your previous post. Calling us sheep, or cowards who wouldnt do your job isnt really convincing me of your argument.
On a good note, i do know a local guy that was real down to earth decent dude, and didnt go out to make arrest. He didnt last long either. Didnt write enough tickets. He's PI now.
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Fair enough... I'm sorry you were stopped and treated like that. From what you've said about leaving your mothers house and getting stopped at gunpoint I'd have to say I don't agree with how it went down and agree its a violation of your fourth amendment rights. I do not make stops like that and you don't get my gun shoved in your face unless you are a high risk threat. Crack heads leaving dope houses don't usually rise to the felony stop level because they are users and don't often rise to that level of threat unless there is some further indication that the threat is present. I personally conduct any such stop the same with any other with the exeption of building on my investigation for illigal narcotics on top of whatever I stopped you for.
Drug cases.... Yeah there are tons of them and it's not money bro.... Crack heads spend it all on dope and don't tend to have much cash on hand to pay fines. Housing them in jail costs us even more money so they tend to be out in a month with probation. The real reason for the number of drug cases is its an easy felony arrest for Officers who play the company line for stats. Most of us that are out handleing calls hate those guys cause they screw making us cover calls in their areas.
We've had several self defense shootings in my area during my time on the street. None of them were charged and none of them were threatened. Thats just here so can't vouch for anywhere else but this place has gotten crazy liberal over the last few years and they still have not gone there and threatened people with charges for self defense shootings.
The sheep comment was sarcasim if you look at the tone of that entire statement and yes I called some of you out saying come change it from the inside if you think it's so bad.
I'm not one to go out to write tons of tickets or to go make BS arrests to add to my numbers and I still have my job....
