Found a neat piece of history in a estate sale

[Hzhardy]

I originally posted this in the bolt action forum and was told to move it here. Either way I recently acquired a US marked Remington 700 from the estate sale of a retired air force Colonel who served in WW2 Korea and Vietnam. The rifle is a 7 digit gun marked 7.62 nato on the barrel along with uds inspection mark heart on the left side of shank and rep keyhole and triangle on right side.
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the bolt is electro penciled serialized the the gun
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the bipod is a harris light weight 1a that appears to be consistent with the vietnam offerings
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unfortunately i am missing the original stock and scope base. I believe this to be a real m40 rifle given the rest of his collection that we acquired along with it. Any information about value and history would be great thank you!!!

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Not my area of expertise, but I am waiting on the edge of my seat for our experts here to chime in!

No matter what, looks like a great find! Thanks for sharing!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[2c1fr]

Op that's an awesome find

 

[MidCitiesMildMan]

Very cool. What is the barrel length and profile (diameter @ muzzle)?

EDIT: http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=2304

According to this the Marine M40's were 6 digit S/N's.

 

[Hzhardy]

It was bought from a retired USAF Col and from what i undrstand these use to be given as trophies, so i am almost 100% it is not a USMC gun, but i am still learning about this platform

 

[Hzhardy]

I was digging through my parts drawer and found a redfield 700sa base and four screw rings which from what i inderstand would be appropriate for the serial number

 

[ScharfshutzeK98]

Very cool find!

 

[pmclaine]

Yes that needs a DepTaylor stock unless you can find an original this weekend at the show.

Post up those pics at www.M40rifle.com. One of the members is compiling a list of 7 digit R700s he may have some info.

You may want to try a search of CMP completed sales also. Perhaps it had passed through their hands.

 

[Hzhardy]

 

[Hzhardy]

Here are some pictures with the weaver bases removed

 

[Hzhardy]

I cant upload pictures anymore??? Hiw do yku use photobucket on this site

 

[pmclaine]

Since the changeover photobucket has worked fine for me in the traditional manner - you copy the share link and paste it here.

I f that is not working you could try the Scout method.

1. Click on the picture in your library

2. When it opens right click on the picture and "Copy" or "Copy Picture"

3. Paste picture here

Others we're having problems posting pictures yesterday

 

[pmclaine]

What's kind of interesting is early bolt handle.

I thought by 7 digit the bolt handles were of the thicker variety.

What does the safety look like rectangle "tombstone" or the present round model?

 

[southerngolfer]

That is an awesome find!

 

[NukeMMC]

I am the proud recipient of a couple SECNAV Trophy M1 Garand rifles from when I was shooting with the Navy Rifle Team. A good AFSOC buddy was an Air Force Team shooter. I will check with him and see if the Air Force ran a similar program where The Navy gave about 30 or 40 rifles away each year to Navy shooters for achievement at Fleet, All Navy, Interservice or National Matches. At one time, they awarded ultra-rare Remington 720 rifles, MK2-1 7.62mm Match rifles (I have a Grade A), MK2-1 non-match grade or standard M1 Garands. As there is no date stamp on the barrel, it is safe to assume it is not from the mainstream Remington production line. Is that "U.D.S" or "O.D.S."? Interesting piece, for sure. It is marked "MODEL 700"? Are there rear sight screw holes on the left-rear of the receiver?

7 digit, no letter prefix should place it late-60s to early 70s. Without a barrel date stamp though, it's hard to get an accurate date.

 

[Hzhardy]

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[Hzhardy]

I am the proud recipient of a couple SECNAV Trophy M1 Garand rifles from when I was shooting with the Navy Rifle Team. A good AFSOC buddy was an Air Force Team shooter. I will check with him and see if the Air Force ran a similar program where The Navy gave about 30 or 40 rifles away each year to Navy shooters for achievement at Fleet, All Navy, Interservice or National Matches. At one time, they awarded ultra-rare Remington 720 rifles, MK2-1 7.62mm Match rifles (I have a Grade A), MK2-1 non-match grade or standard M1 Garands. As there is no date stamp on the barrel, it is safe to assume it is not from the mainstream Remington production line. Is that "U.D.S" or "O.D.S."? Interesting piece, for sure. It is marked "MODEL 700"? Are there rear sight screw holes on the left-rear of the receiver?

7 digit, no letter prefix should place it late-60s to early 70s. Without a barrel date stamp though, it's hard to get an accurate date.

It dkes have the reciever sight mount holes on the left side and it is marked uds. The safety looks like the current remington offering and has a single sear. I will bring my trigger guage to measure pull poundage as this thing has a sweet trigger.

 

[Hzhardy]

The collection had 2 us property marked colt 1911 with National match top ends( not sure if frames were marked as such) 1903a3, 1903a4, us krag carbine and infantry NFA BAR and thompson (family kept those) and this rifle. There were also two matching number no import marked 91/30 sniper with original scope short a bolt, 2 german 98 mausers, luger, p38, 2 china supplied nva sks's plus a bunch of high end civilian guns (we bought 37 guns total). The cool thing was most of these have barracks check tags from 1970's that list him by name and rank. I will be at the tulsa gun show with the remkngton intow if and any of you would like to see it in person.

 

[Hzhardy]

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[Hzhardy]

Here are some more pictures of the reciever. I took the old weaver bases off so you could see the clip slotting.

****I had to upload my pictures to photobucket, download them back then upload from my library as it says the are to big if I upload direct from my iphone.

 

[Hzhardy]

Here is a side profile that shows the safety profile. Yesterday i dug around my parts drawer at work and found a set of 513 sling swivels that are suppose to be correct? And 2 redfield 700sa bases and a set of low four screw redfield rings

 

[ScharfshutzeK98]

What's kind of interesting is early bolt handle.

I thought by 7 digit the bolt handles were of the thicker variety.

What does the safety look like rectangle "tombstone" or the present round model?

That's one of the first things I noticed, since it resembled the one I recently got with that 1966 receiver.

 

[Hzhardy]

the bolt does not look as thin as the ealry model shown

 

[pmclaine]

Not as thin a K98s nor as fat as the more recent square shank.

Its possible K98s was perhaps modified or heavily polished at Remington.

Yours is more typical of the 67, 68, 69 bolt style.

 

[pmclaine]

That "plumb" color on the handle also seems typical.

 

[Hzhardy]

Guys over on the m40 site say it is a 1969 manufacture

 

[Hzhardy]

What is neat is that many of these gun came with retention authorization tags for the late col. I wish the m40 had one!!!

 

[sirhrmechanic]

^^^ What is the story on that Browning? I LOVE Hi Powers. I shoot them better than any handgun on the planet. It's the gun that fits my hand perfectly.

But was not aware of any U.S. military applications for them? Not even as presentation pieces? So what is the back-story on that Hi-Power and the tag???

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[pmclaine]

The retention authorization I think allows him to have it on base.

Even a fresh bought 10-22 would need be registered at PMO to bring it on base.

Unsure once brought on base if it would have to stay in the Armory or could be taken to quarters.

Rules for a Colonel likely vary from rules for a private.

 

[buffalowinter]

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Weapons could be retained in quarters by both officer and enlisted. If you lived in the barracks they had to kept in the arms room...and inventoried every month along with all the US weapons. Patch Barracks is in Stuttgart, Germany, and is US European Command (EUCOM) HQ.

Sir H, the Browning High Power was used by Army Special Forces in Vietnam for deniable operations.

"SOG's most ubiquitous foreign handgun was the 9 mm Luger Browning High Power, favored for its 13-round magazine capacity. Several dozen SOG High Powers came home as chromed, boxed presentation pistols, awarded by SOG's commander ("Chief SOG"), to his most accomplished team leaders."(Plaster, Am Rifleman) [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"http:\/\/www.macvsog.cc\/images\/Moe%20recon.jpg"}[/IMG2]

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Thanks Buffalo! That makes total sense!

When I saw AF Col. i wasn't thinking about UW... or some of the interesting 'stuff' in other inventories.

Welrod's for example...

Cheers and thanks!

Sirhr

 

[pmclaine]

Weapons could be retained in quarters by both officer and enlisted. If you lived in the barracks they had to kept in the arms room...and inventoried every month along with all the US weapons. Patch Barracks is in Stuttgart, Germany, and is US European Command (EUCOM) HQ.

Sir H, the Browning High Power was used by Army Special Forces in Vietnam for deniable operations.

"SOG's most ubiquitous foreign handgun was the 9 mm Luger Browning High Power, favored for its 13-round magazine capacity. Several dozen SOG High Powers came home as chromed, boxed presentation pistols, awarded by SOG's commander ("Chief SOG"), to his most accomplished team leaders."(American Rifleman)

And the PMO retention tag authorizes it to be brought on base? Private weapons having to be registered with PMO.

just so there is no confusion with a capture tag which would be something completely different.

 

[Hzhardy]

Yes it was his personal property in germany, i just think it is cool that it ties it to him. The high power is sloted for a stock with a 500 meter rear sight and t prefix serial number that makes it very rare. Many confuse it with a capitan but this predates there manufacture dates. Either way this on is for sale in my shop. If you have not figured it out yet I own a gunsmith shop here in Moore Oklahoma and have been fortunate to play with a lot of this stuff.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

You going to Tulsa this wknd???

I'll miss the April Show for the first time in several years. Great show!

PM inbound...

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Hzhardy]

You going to Tulsa this wknd???

I'll miss the April Show for the first time in several years. Great show!

PM inbound...

Cheers,

Sirhr

i will be there with a few toys. I will sharing a table with a customer of mine.

 

[Hzhardy]

Also I did call the cmp and it did not pass through them and no secret stash of stocks. Oh well worth a try.