Howdy Hide,
I'm sure I"m not the first to step on their soapbox here about this topic (nor will I be the last). I also know many folks that participate here are either employed or have been employed in one way or another with the DOJ industry. It's not my intention to cast stones towards those folks (as far as I know I've always avoided the "uniform hanger" and whatever terminology typically found in these type of threads). That said- as the thread title suggests I'm beyond weary of what I see it do to folks that (I at least) perceive to be otherwise normal individuals/citizens/Americans/whatever and just have their lives completely upended once they find themselves sucked into the gravity that is the DOJ 'system'.
I've seen so many examples over the years, as I'm sure many here have, with things like say divorces. An otherwise upstanding guy making the mistake of marrying someone who (for so many reasons that it could be a discussion itself) find themselves in a bitter court battle draining their finances that they spent years/decades often building because their wife got 'bored'/whatever and then have to spend 10's of thousands of dollars in legal fees, lose their house, lose their kids, lose their retirements & lifesavings, and also careers and reputation at the otherwise whim of someone that they trusted and spent all those years supporting.
Another example I've seen firsthand that isn't often discussed is DUI charges. Folks getting their pictures in the news and lengthy proceedings & expenses to challenge the charge afterwards and even if they "win" as not being guilty of the charges, they're out significant money/have fallout for their reputations, lose significant time, etc. It may vary by state but I even know of folks arrested, publicized, and were brought in for some additional testing (typically blood testing in these parts) and come back completely sober as in no alcohol, drugs, etc in their system at all. And the DA just says 'eh' we'll dismiss the charges (which were brought up likely months previously).
And one might think that's a "one off" type of situation but again, it may be regional, but there was an investigation here a few years ago on the frequency of folks being arrested and brought in for further testing after failing whatever roadside test (BAC/roadside sobriety) and it was found that something like 25% never were brought to trial because the testing confirmed that they had no alcohol/drugs in their system and it was a 'mistake'. I could continue on my opinions with that alone but that's not what's driving this post/what makes it relevant here.
I'm often criticized for posting longwinded blocks of text so I'll do a quick <break> and continue in another posting.
-LD
I'm sure I"m not the first to step on their soapbox here about this topic (nor will I be the last). I also know many folks that participate here are either employed or have been employed in one way or another with the DOJ industry. It's not my intention to cast stones towards those folks (as far as I know I've always avoided the "uniform hanger" and whatever terminology typically found in these type of threads). That said- as the thread title suggests I'm beyond weary of what I see it do to folks that (I at least) perceive to be otherwise normal individuals/citizens/Americans/whatever and just have their lives completely upended once they find themselves sucked into the gravity that is the DOJ 'system'.
I've seen so many examples over the years, as I'm sure many here have, with things like say divorces. An otherwise upstanding guy making the mistake of marrying someone who (for so many reasons that it could be a discussion itself) find themselves in a bitter court battle draining their finances that they spent years/decades often building because their wife got 'bored'/whatever and then have to spend 10's of thousands of dollars in legal fees, lose their house, lose their kids, lose their retirements & lifesavings, and also careers and reputation at the otherwise whim of someone that they trusted and spent all those years supporting.
Another example I've seen firsthand that isn't often discussed is DUI charges. Folks getting their pictures in the news and lengthy proceedings & expenses to challenge the charge afterwards and even if they "win" as not being guilty of the charges, they're out significant money/have fallout for their reputations, lose significant time, etc. It may vary by state but I even know of folks arrested, publicized, and were brought in for some additional testing (typically blood testing in these parts) and come back completely sober as in no alcohol, drugs, etc in their system at all. And the DA just says 'eh' we'll dismiss the charges (which were brought up likely months previously).
And one might think that's a "one off" type of situation but again, it may be regional, but there was an investigation here a few years ago on the frequency of folks being arrested and brought in for further testing after failing whatever roadside test (BAC/roadside sobriety) and it was found that something like 25% never were brought to trial because the testing confirmed that they had no alcohol/drugs in their system and it was a 'mistake'. I could continue on my opinions with that alone but that's not what's driving this post/what makes it relevant here.
I'm often criticized for posting longwinded blocks of text so I'll do a quick <break> and continue in another posting.
-LD
