Suppressors Full size 30 cal on a .22LR

[drew_235]

I'm going to order a suppressor tomorrow - likely a Banish 30 (formerly the Dakota Silencer Varminter 4.0). I've been around suppressors, I like them, I am going to get one. I'll be using it for target shooting as well as hunting with .223/5.56 and 6.5mm rifles. My real question is, if I have to wait 6 - 11 months for this thing, should I just pony up the cash and buy a .22LR can at the same time? I want to shoot critters in my backyard and shoot .22LR at the range, but I'm a bit worried that a 9 oz suppressor on the end of a Tikka T1x or 10/22 might be a bit much.

It's only money, right?
Or...do I file a form 1 for the .22LR setup and find something on ebay to "build" since the cost for failure is a lot lower given the lower pressures/velocities?

 

[Tiger_Shilone]

Not unless it is a user serviceable can that you can take apart and clean, not too many CF rifle suppressors like that. 22LR dumps a ton of lead and carbon crap into the suppressor. I'd really do due diligence on researching can characteristics before ordering what is essentially a lifetime purchase.

There are a few threads all ready with this same exact question and why it is a questionable pursuit.

 

[Jcarpenter223]

Id form 1 and build.

 

[drew_235]

Not unless it is a user serviceable can that you can take apart and clean, not too many CF rifle suppressors like that. 22LR dumps a ton of lead and carbon crap into the suppressor. I'd really do due diligence on researching can characteristics before ordering what is essentially a lifetime purchase.

There are a few threads all ready with this same exact question and why it is a questionable pursuit.

The Banish 30 is a user serviceable and modular suppressor that can also change from 9" to 7". I saw their booth at the Game Fair in Anoka, MN this year and was quite impressed.

Would you Form 1 the 22LR or are you saying that to both?

 

[m700.308]

I would steer clear of running a 22lr through a centerfire can (unless it breaks down, which I think is rare). Here is a picture after almost 500 rounds of SK match through a Thunderbeast 22-Takedown.

Since you are going to wait, I'd pony up for both cans...

 

[AK4900PA]

I don't know anything about that particular can, but I have a Griffin Paladin which is also user serviceable and I run 22lr, 300blk, 6.5 Grendel and .308 through it on my AR platforms. Works great. With that said, I'd still get a dedicated rimfire can if you plan on using it on 22lr pistols due to the weight. I have 4 suppressors and 3 of them are user serviceable which comes in handy when I want to take the wife and son to shoot 22lr. No swapping one can from gun to gun.

 

[Tnc]

Most centerfire can thread patterns will not fit on a 22 threaded barrel without an adapter.
Just something else to think about

 

[AK4900PA]

Most centerfire can thread patterns will not fit on a 22 threaded barrel without an adapter.
Just something else to think about

Non issue if your using QD mounts. I use brakes or flash hiders depending on the application for centerfire uppers and a direct thread adapter for my 22lr upper.

 

[Fig]

Direct thread for precision. QD for an AR.

 

[drew_235]

I would steer clear of running a 22lr through a centerfire can (unless it breaks down, which I think is rare). Here is a picture after almost 500 rounds of SK match through a Thunderbeast 22-Takedown.

Since you are going to wait, I'd pony up for both cans...

View attachment 7139256

Is that lead, carbon, or both? If it's lead, isn't that a bit dodgy to be dumping it out on your computer table with the possibility of inhalation uptake? Maybe I'm being a bit of an overly cautious new dad, but I'd think of doing that in the garage with the shop vac or under running water.

 

[Huskydriver]

Direct thread for precision. QD for an AR.

I qd all my axmc barrels with 3 different cans... All return to poi everytime. If you have quality qd mounts like deadair, their is no advantage to dt


With that said OP, I'm a firm believer in just form1 your own can. 22lr is stupid easy to suppress yourself for less than 400 bucks with a stamp... You don't want big overbored 30 cal can on the end of your 22

 

[SuckitTrebek]

There are a couple calibers where it is 100% worth it to get another suppressor, no matter how "user configurable" it is.

.22 is one of them.

Due to the very small length and super light weight in comparison to ANY other can.


.22 for .22

.308 for 5.56-.7.62 (not worth getting two separate)


and .22 cans are so goddamn cheap i'm not sure why someone wouldn't just buy one from a manufacturer.

 

[m700.308]

Is that lead, carbon, or both? If it's lead, isn't that a bit dodgy to be dumping it out on your computer table with the possibility of inhalation uptake? Maybe I'm being a bit of an overly cautious new dad, but I'd think of doing that in the garage with the shop vac or under running water.

I am sure it is a bit of everything. Most 22 ammo has that wax layer on the outside that likes to melt and solidify in the can. So it's gluing just about everything!

...and you are right I should not have done it in the house. But it was a good excuse to tear down the home desk and deep clean!

 

[jcam]

I would buy a dedicated 22 can. My GM22 gets a lot of carbon after couple hundred rounds. I can't imagine shooting 22lr on the ultra 30 cal.

 

[Mr.Kirk]

and .22 cans are so goddamn cheap i'm not sure why someone wouldn't just buy one from a manufacturer.

Mine (gemtech)was less than the stamp and weighs almost nothing.
The advantage of making your own is waiting two months for the stamp vs 12.

 

[rlsmith1]

Those who have done a Form 1 can for 22lr, do you feel like you're giving anything up to a manufactured can? The $ and wait time are both big drawbacks of Form 4.

I did ask the ATF about their eFile Form 4 and they are hoping to implement it but didn't have a timeline. They did say they hoped to cut wait times drastically though. Fingers crossed.

 

[drew_235]

I ended up ordering a couple of fully Ti .30 cal cans and plan on doing a form 1 for a .22LR setup. As soon as my trust is finished, I will file the form 1 and report back with my experience.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

Mine (gemtech)was less than the stamp and weighs almost nothing.
The advantage of making your own is waiting two months for the stamp vs 12.

Nevermind that few have the skill to build one that is actually reliable

 

[hlee]

With the kits available today, anyone that can bolt an AR-15 together should be able to assemble a form 1 suppressor.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

ok. I'll bite. what is the best "kit" for this?

Because there is no way this is as easy as building an AR.

 

[SuckitTrebek]

oh yeah. anyone can do it.......

 

[hlee]

oh yeah. anyone can do it.......

Got a cordless drill?

Home

Home

 

[drew_235]

ok. I'll bite. what is the best "kit" for this?

Because there is no way this is as easy as building an AR.

It may not carry the pedigree that most desire around here, but for my first dip into the home built pool, I went with a Quiet Bore 22lr setup, Titanium internals, and they sell a jig/clamp that has a guided drill hole and the correct bit. They get favorable reviews on the Facebook Form 1 group.