Did you mean 82 years later?The old girls still leaking fuel oil 72 yers later…….
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Did you mean 82 years later?The old girls still leaking fuel oil 72 yers later…….
Spent some time working for the Forest Service at Mapleton OR long, long ago. The road crew knew where all the elk where. Said they only hunted up hill from the roads as you can drag them downhill up trying to do it uphill is almost impossible because of the slopes and amount of undergrowth.Seeing the high line pictures reminded me of an event years ago. A High School classmate was guiding for Elk in SW Oregon and the client got one down in the bottom of a deep canyon near a logging operation. They drug the bull to the lower landing and made a deal with the crew to yard it up to the upper landing by the road. I can just picture the yarder operator’s expression when the next pull is an elk instead of a saw log. He said that it was worth every penny they spent.![]()
Did the same up in Weyerhauser on the coastal range with two elk. Old man and his friend dropped two bulls who decided they would live just long enough to get to the bottom of a steep ass canyon. Our equipment was nearby so we set up the yarder on the high landing with a high line and skylined those two bulls right out. P.S. dragging cable thru reprod to set up a line sucks ass. Funniest damn thing you ever saw. Opening morning and flying elk suspended by the neck with a choker. Usually in OR you are lucky in that every damn draw had a skid road in the bottom of it and you can drag them down and out, but not this one.Seeing the high line pictures reminded me of an event years ago. A High School classmate was guiding for Elk in SW Oregon and the client got one down in the bottom of a deep canyon near a logging operation. They drug the bull to the lower landing and made a deal with the crew to yard it up to the upper landing by the road. I can just picture the yarder operator’s expression when the next pull is an elk instead of a saw log. He said that it was worth every penny they spent.![]()
Stupid Teamsters. What they don’t break they steal.If you ever want to see something more useless than an Uvalde cop, watch a teamster at work. Teamsters are the most worthless twats on earth, the worst truck drivers and the shittiest employees. I paid for a lift gate delivery of some equipment to my shop, the "teamster", union trash could not back a single axle trailer into my 30 foot wide concrete driveway from the was overly wide and completely empty street and offered to drop my equipment in the street a block away from my house.
After a good laugh, I told the simp that the non-union driver managed to back a far larger truck up to the shop door like a big boy just two days before. Then I called his company and asked them to send a grown-up and handed the phone to puss-boy. After 15 minutes of screaming into the phone about my home/shop not being a union shop he relented and backed up to the roll-up door in just three tries. Then he refused to either use the lift gate, a fifty dollar upcharge or unstrap the requested dolly. Another call to the manager, more whining about having to lift, the lift gate and re-strap the dolly when done. Another bit of yelling and then he agrees to unload my shit but refuses to move it off the lift gate since my home and shop are not a union business. So, I happily move the equipment into my shop and return his dolly to the lift gate where he promptly drops the dolly off the back of the lift gate and sticks it between the gate and trailer. I can't help him since it is a union truck and he does not like members of other unions either.
A simple 10 minute delivery took 45 minutes and two phone calls with a "teamster".
Jimmy Hoffa's turds.
Same here. I never saw any of the money but....... my sister and I always had new school shoes, a coat and whatever else we needed when school started. I would do it over a thousand times
Don’t feel bad, all public unions are varying levels of useless. That’s just how they functionI am a teamster, and I'm ashamed to say that yall are mostly right. They are some of the most useless people, and our Local 71 is the most useless of all. How these useless fucks get elected is beyond me. The upside? I have 27 days left. 27 days! Then the teamsters can get their thieving fingers out of my wallet and take a hike.
Admiral Kimmel's predecessor, ADM James Richardson was considered the number one expert on Japanese warfare.Stupid Japanese. I'm reading a history of the IJN.
The plant that made the Zero used oxen to haul the planes to the nearest airfield 20+ miles away. When the oxen got old, they used percherons. Building an airfield at the plant never occurred to them.
Their original naval aviators were basically kids on the PHD track in high school. Over 90% washed out because training was so harsh. They would literally beat them.
The aviators would be put on the front lines forever. Never rotated back to train others or allowed to get rest. And no plan to replace lost pilots. The aviators were not systematically interviewed on how to make things better.
The Navy had both officers and enlisted flying planes. The enlisted would come back after flying then made to stand watch, do KP, shine the officers shoes, etc. The officers were arrogant pricks who could not fly yet made all the decisions.
Every time senior IJN leadership would plan an operation but not validate their assumptions. Senior leaders were not visiting every base constantly.
The IJN had a habit of not focusing on the goal of the operation. They did it over and over and over again. At Pearl Harbor, they did not follow ups with a third or fourth strike or bombard Pearl and the US installations. As a result the dry docks, harbor facilities, runways, construction equipment, fuel depot, and stores were all intact. The IJN always got cold feet. The Indian Ocean raids, Guadalcanal, Battle of Philippines - and many others - the IJN did not go for the jugular.
A lot of other Americans when war-gamed Pearl, would have had the heavy battleships empty their magazines into Pearl with the planes flying CAP. Pearl was the main base of the US in the Pacific - I would have landed a Division and taken it. Razed it.
Stupid Japanese.
My moose came out of the woods on a skidder. 950 pounds of him, They tied it to the plow, hoisted it up on top and put him in my truck, tickety-boo! Best $100 I ever spent
Sirhr
My stars did not align. Had a nice elk herd sleeping in the equipment line up. Made a deal with the hoe operator to lift, help me skin and put him in my pickup. I got there early and set up on the two track the herd used to mosey away each day when the Cat's lit up. Nothing. Gave up, waved at the hoe hand and headed off to make soft rock out of hard rock. A few hundred yards down the ROW I met Manuel, labor foreman, we stop and he asked "How'd you do"? "Nothing, didn't see them". He looked at me and said " You should been here, 9 elks, 2 bulls, one was 6 point, the other was Biiigg!!
As most of y'all know, here, we only count points on one side. Tag soup that year.
Thank you,
MrSmith
And yet they kicked ass.
Maybe would have continued kicking ass if we hadn't nuked them.
One of the most underappreciated weapons we used in the Pacific Theatre was the submarine. I cannot find the quotes now but the Japanese military leadership cited American submarine warfare as the number one reason that they lost the war.
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That's even with the failure issues with the Mk14 torpedoes...
And yet they kicked ass.
Maybe would have continued kicking ass if we hadn't nuked them.
If it was easy they would call it shopping!
Next year! Nothing for me this year but pheasants!
Sirhr
The Japanese never instituted a convey system to protect their supply lines against the submarine threat.One of the most underappreciated weapons we used in the Pacific Theatre was the submarine. I cannot find the quotes now but the Japanese military leadership cited American submarine warfare as the number one reason that they lost the war.
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The source for the graph above is:
I am a teamster, and I'm ashamed to say that yall are mostly right. They are some of the most useless people, and our Local 71 is the most useless of all. How these useless fucks get elected is beyond me. The upside? I have 27 days left. 27 days! Then the teamsters can get their thieving fingers out of my wallet and take a hike.
I’d forgotten about my hooking partner sending out a flying black “Light one” til the above referenced post. Couple hunters were below the yarder with a fresh killed black bear, studying how they’d get him out. They kept watching fairly large red/white fir/larch and cedars getting ramrodded uphill like they were toothpicks. One of em hollered at my partner, who was a short ways downhill and on the other side of the skyline. They talked a minute, while I set my chokers, stopped the carriage above me and sent out my turn.My moose came out of the woods on a skidder. 950 pounds of him, They tied it to the plow, hoisted it up on top and put him in my truck, tickety-boo! Best $100 I ever spent
Sirhr
The Japanese never instituted a convey system to protect their supply lines against the submarine threat.
Admiral King (USN) also failed to institute an effective convey system against the U-Boat threat leading to the "Second Happy Time" during operation drumbeat.
Building an airfield at the plant never occurred to them.
For better or worse, quite a lot of the parts that went into the planes were built in smaller shops and then transported to a final assembly plant. Since these shops were so dispersed, it was more difficult for the bombing crews to destroy all of them.Or it occurred to them that airfields tend to attract aircraft.
And yet they kicked ass.
Maybe would have continued kicking ass if we hadn't nuked them.
One of the most underappreciated weapons we used in the Pacific Theatre was the submarine. I cannot find the quotes now but the Japanese military leadership cited American submarine warfare as the number one reason that they lost the war.
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The source for the graph above is:
Admiral Kimmel's predecessor, ADM James Richardson was considered the number one expert on Japanese warfare.
Yet he was still fired for talking too much about a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
I cannot find anything he might have said after the raid that might have sounded like "I told you so."
For better or worse, quite a lot of the parts that went into the planes were built in smaller shops and then transported to a final assembly plant. Since these shops were so dispersed, it was more difficult for the bombing crews to destroy all of them.
Before LeMay took over, bombing was done for high altitude and used mostly high explosive bombs. This was ineffective and Lemay switched to low altitude incendiary bombing. Some my not know that more civilians were killed in the fire bombing raids than when Little Boy and Fat Man were dropped.
They got their ass handed to them at the Coral Sea and at Midway. Wake Island defended itself from the first attack and had there been more support, they would have won the second attack.
During the battles of the Savo Sea, US Destroyers closed to feet with the IJN capital ships and fought with not only deck guns, machine guns, AA but even small arms. The IJN ships commanders ran away rather than crush the US ships.
Even the IJN admirals were impressed with the bravery of US fliers.
Many IJN fliers deliberately avoided battle by flying away.
In hand to hand fighting on Guadalcanal the marines dominated. There are lots of reports of Japanese small units deliberately avoiding movement to contact. The Japanese infantryman was beaten and abused most every day of his life.
I’m pretty sure the German navy submarine force lost a lot more people than the US did….IIRC highest casualty rate of any service in the war, too.
Sirhr
I worked for a company around 1990 that had a union. When I came on they tried relentlessly to get me to join but I wouldn’t. I told the main union guy once that if he approached me again I would catch him outside and beat his ass.Don’t feel bad, all public unions are varying levels of useless. That’s just how they function
They got their ass handed to them at the Coral Sea and at Midway. Wake Island defended itself from the first attack and had there been more support, they would have won the second attack.
During the battles of the Savo Sea, US Destroyers closed to feet with the IJN capital ships and fought with not only deck guns, machine guns, AA but even small arms. The IJN ships commanders ran away rather than crush the US ships.
Even the IJN admirals were impressed with the bravery of US fliers.
Many IJN fliers deliberately avoided battle by flying away.
In hand to hand fighting on Guadalcanal the marines dominated. There are lots of reports of Japanese small units deliberately avoiding movement to contact. The Japanese infantryman was beaten and abused most every day of his life.
I’m pretty sure the German navy submarine force lost a lot more people than the US did….
And yet they kicked ass.
Maybe would have continued kicking ass if we hadn't nuked them.
That's even with the failure issues with the Mk14 torpedoes...
One of the most moving monuments I’ve ever visited.
Wife’s great granddad is amongst the soul’s still on board, may they all rest in piece.One of the most moving monuments I’ve ever visited.