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At $400 per 1,000, I’m about to offload an undisclosed amount of primers.
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Capitalism. If you celebrate it, can't complain about it.
Prices will go where the market will bear.
Just because I support capitalism doesn't mean I can't call someone's an asshole for abusing or fueling a shit situation. I support free speech but still call some people assholes for what they say.
 
Just because I support capitalism doesn't mean I can't call someone's an asshole for abusing or fueling a shit situation. I support free speech but still call some people assholes for what they say.
Someone should force you to work for minimum wage because they feel its what you are worth despite the real market value of your labor.

Starting to get the picture?

This is a huge problem in our society where people do not understand basic economics or how free markets work. The same ones who scream "Merica when its convenient; parrot socialist policies when is not. People really need to start applying critical thinking, especially if they want to claim they believe in things such as freedom of association, capitalism and individual liberties.
 
Someone should force you to work for minimum wage because they feel its what you are worth despite the real market value of your labor.

Starting to get the picture?

This is a huge problem in our society where people do not understand basic economics or how free markets work. The same ones who scream "Merica when its convenient; parrot socialist policies when is not. People really need to start applying critical thinking, especially if they want to claim they believe in things such as freedom of association, capitalism and individual liberties.

Calling someone an asshole for being an asshole isn’t uniquely socialist thinking.

And the words Capitalism don’t excuse any form of excess from being ridiculed.

Should we ass hammer a company with regulatory pressure or lawsuits that increased the costs of Epi-pens massively because they could? Nope. Should we call them complete assholes? Yes.

Besides - we don’t live in a Capitalist country. Once the power of government is harnessed to create regulatory capture you are living in a Socialist state. It just isn’t as clearly defined as open Socialism is.

In fact, intellectual honesty compels me to say that Regulatory Capture Capitalism is probably slightly more evil than Scandinavian-style Socialist. Capitalism. Neither of which really approach in any way the evils of Communism.

Put another way - we pay the taxes and live in an economic straight jacket that is almost identical to a socialist country in europe without reaping any of the benefits.
 
Well sir hard to argue with any of that. You make great points.

It just gets annoying when people spout this shit they sound no different than the rabid left who let their emotions control them.

Someone making a business decision does not make them an asshole. You dont know their sitiation, intent or reasoning. There are very good reasons why a business would drastically raise prices.
 
Not in my state.
Not Yet.

20 years ago People in CO said the same thing.

Liberalism is a parasite that spreads and destroys its host. They are coming for you eventually. And even if you are the last to go down, who else will be there to help you?

“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out,
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out,
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out,
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.”​

 
Ammo shortages have never lasted more than 2 years. Just like when every machine shop became an AR manufacture durring the 08 and then sandy hook scare, plenty of new ammo companies popped up.

90% of them went out of business a year later when demand plummeted, when the market was flooded and prices were at an all time high.

You don't buy a house based on your overtime wages the same as you dont invest long term based on all time high prices. Its not sustainable.

Its pure hubris and ignorance to think YOU know more than the billion dollar companies who have been around a half of century in this industry. If they thought it would be worth it, they would. Business exist to make money.

This is a common theme for people who are new to guns or havent been paying attention. They have zero idea what they are talking about. Anyone who runs or manages a business this shit is readily apparent and needs no explanation. Its like explaining to a todler why shitting on the kitchen floor is a bad idea.

I'm out of fucking LIKES to give

I too am tired of know-nothing dumbasses who've never, EVER, managed let alone owned a capital-intensive business spouting off how ammo companies should do this or that.
 
Not Yet.

20 years ago People in CO said the same thing.

Liberalism is a parasite that spreads and destroys its host. They are coming for you eventually. And even if you are the last to go down, who else will be there to help you?

“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out,​

Because I was not a Socialist.​

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out,​

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.​

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out,​

Because I was not a Jew.​

Then they came for me,​

and there was no one left to speak for me.”​


Not in my state because we watch them like hawks and stomp them into the ground when they show up
 
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Seems like if you had won the lottery and could tool up and traverse the ocean of red tape on the way through this patch, then sit on the stock you’ve produced for the next 4-8 years, you could start working your way toward profitability at that point.

LOL

Nice business plan

Whose going to lend you the capital? What are you going to do for cash flow now? What are you going to do with inventory on hand costed at a premium when the bottom falls out either because demand dries up or because of legislation?
 
I'm out of fucking LIKES to give

I too am tired of know-nothing dumbasses who've never, EVER, managed let alone owned a capital-intensive business spouting off how ammo companies should do this or that.
And at the same time they say how great companies who don't raise their prices are when their entire business model is Drop Shipping.

They don't stock a fucking thing and have zero capital outlays.

They should send this free shirt to anyone who posts that dumb shit

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Except for the fact that they are unintentionally setting the market. People will see these vastly inflated completed auctions and think that's what they can sell for.
Well, some people are paying those prices in gun stores. I've seen it! Saw a guy at Academy picking up a new rifle, and then saw him at the gun shop buying ammo for it. $50 for a box of 308 FGMM! 😂
 
The market consists of an offer and acceptance.

If people have very high prices and people are buying, that is the market rate.

If people have very high prices and no one is buying, the price will come down to equilibrium.

Everyone buying at inflated prices are taking additonal risk. Risk is what guides all of our decision making. Risk that prices will drop and they will bear a loss. Risk prices will rise and they will lose out on an oppertunity. Risk that the products will be unavailable in the future making them priceless.

Its a bilateral agreement to conduct a sale. No one is holding a gun to anyone head to buy a gun or ammo. That is the way it should be. A transaction where both parties agree.

$50 may be alot to you, but if you have NO ammo and your only choice is to go defenseless or pay $50, its not a hard fucking choice to make. How much is a bottle of water worth to someone dying of thirst?

This is the ESSENCE of capitalism.

People need to get it through their thick fucking skulls that compelling or forcing someone to sell something at a certain price is no different than sticking a gun to their head and stealing from them.

At the same time chastising them for making a business decision which is in their best interest just shows how shallow minded and simple many really are.
 
Someone should force you to work for minimum wage because they feel its what you are worth despite the real market value of your labor.

Starting to get the picture?

This is a huge problem in our society where people do not understand basic economics or how free markets work. The same ones who scream "Merica when its convenient; parrot socialist policies when is not. People really need to start applying critical thinking, especially if they want to claim they believe in things such as freedom of association, capitalism and individual liberties.
amen!!!!!!!!!

the people that didn't stack it deep when it was cheap (not the newbies of course and they have my sympathies) are part of the problem, not the market. those people are panicking now. A little hording never hurt anyone:)
 
LOL

Nice business plan

Whose going to lend you the capital? What are you going to do for cash flow now? What are you going to do with inventory on hand costed at a premium when the bottom falls out either because demand dries up or because of legislation?
Yeah I’m saying it’s stupid. You must have missed the “won the lottery” bit.
 
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Well, some people are paying those prices in gun stores. I've seen it! Saw a guy at Academy picking up a new rifle, and then saw him at the gun shop buying ammo for it. $50 for a box of 308 FGMM! 😂

Oh man. I thought paying PSA 16.99 for 20rds of 175gr FGMM was high. At $50 per box I'd rather just handload.
 
Thanks for the write up. That weight includes the mount I assume? Is that mount optional or a fixed system like the others?

Also question on the eye box when on 1x is it picky at all where your head has to be?
He's lost the ability to flip it unless he wants to mess around with getting it removed from NFA. Over $8K though? Jeez...

Replicans gained and expanded trifectas this election season. State election results aren't fitting your narrative.
Why don't you give it a few months and we'll see where we're at? Your rights and mine are under attack, period. That's not made up and this line of commentary is out of place and off-topic in this thread at this point.
 
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He's lost the ability to flip it unless he wants to mess around with getting it removed from NFA. Over $8K though? Jeez...


Why don't you give it a few months and we'll see where we're at? Your rights and mine are under attack, period. That's not made up and this line of commentary is out of place and off-topic in this thread at this point.
My rights have only expanded the past several years and no sign of let up any time soon.
Just so I can reference this in a few months, where exactly do you feel we'll be at the end of April?
 
We can grouse all we want, companies will continue charging these prices as long as they can find people willing to pay them. They're just not getting any of my money. Faced with the choice of spending $500 for 500 rounds of 9mm or using that money to buy another .22 pistol I know what I'm doing.

I'm also lucky enough to still have a pretty good supple of 9mm, 5.56 and .308 Even so, for the time being my .22's (both rifle and pistol) will be seeing a lot more range time.
 
We can grouse all we want, companies will continue charging these prices as long as they can find people willing to pay them. They're just not getting any of my money. Faced with the choice of spending $500 for 500 rounds of 9mm or using that money to buy another .22 pistol I know what I'm doing.

I'm also lucky enough to still have a pretty good supple of 9mm, 5.56 and .308 Even so, for the time being my .22's (both rifle and pistol) will be seeing a lot more range time.
what is that old saying, a hammer without a nail is just paper weight

I'd be careful buying guns right now as ammo will continue to appreciate but we've seen some leveling off and even declines in gun prices
 
I will add a little blast from the past , so you can see that monetary inflation exists at all levels !
 

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what is that old saying, a hammer without a nail is just paper weight

I'd be careful buying guns right now as ammo will continue to appreciate but we've seen some leveling off and even declines in gun prices
Still rather spend $500 .22 pistol than 500 rounds of 9mm. Us old guys have been through this before. Ammo prices will come down (although probably not to what prices were in 2019) and availability will begin to increase. It may take a year. It may take 2. But we will get there. In the meantime I plan on continuing to shoot but it will be a lot cheaper to be shooting my new rimfire pistol than one of my 9mm or .45 guns. And at the end of the day I suspect that .22 pistol will be worth more in 2-3 years than 500 rounds of 9mm. Time will tell.

And if you really want to get depressed want to know what I paid for surplus .308 20 years ago? .16 per round and it came on stripper clips, in bandoliers, in an ammo can, in a wooden crate. Still have about 1000 rounds of this ammo.
 
Still rather spend $500 .22 pistol than 500 rounds of 9mm. Us old guys have been through this before. Ammo prices will come down (although probably not to what prices were in 2019) and availability will begin to increase. It may take a year. It may take 2. But we will get there. In the meantime I plan on continuing to shoot but it will be a lot cheaper to be shooting my new rimfire pistol than one of my 9mm or .45 guns. And at the end of the day I suspect that .22 pistol will be worth more in 2-3 years than 500 rounds of 9mm. Time will tell.

And if you really want to get depressed want to know what I paid for surplus .308 20 years ago? .16 per round and it came on stripper clips, in bandoliers, in an ammo can, in a wooden crate. Still have about 1000 rounds of this ammo.
I know, I was buying 20yrs ago too and still have win white box with $1.99 tag on them...lol

I get it, I do
 
Ha! I'm still shooting up South American M193 in brown battlepacks, for 3Gun. It's been so long, I can't remember what all those cases cost, but it sure was cheap.
 
You're angry because you showed up late to the party after most of the booze and food has already been consumed. Now you want to punish those that were there early or on time just so you can get your share of the new rations. That sounds just about right to be a socialist. Many of us have been fighting this crap for a long time while others set back and did nothing because it did not directly affect them. Now those same people that didn't care want to get mad and entitled just because they finally decided to show up to the party. I'm well prepared right now but anyone can bet like it's money in the bank when things I need are available I'm going to be Jonny on the spot placing orders.
Look I'm gonna say this, I've been in the reloading game for 11 years now. I am also in the army which doesn't pay much as we all know. I live within my means, which also means I cant just go out and buy 10k primers or 400lbs of powder. However most of this shit is being bought up just to resell at a ridiculous price.

If you think that's fair, moral, free market or capitalism, then you are an asshole and I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Now politely fuck off.

Doc
 
Blue and purple states. Look at the SAFE Act in NY, magazine limitations across multiple states including Magpul’s previous HQ, huge stupidity in Maryland, and the constant assault in other states. They are chipping away at the state level, I think that’s undeniable.
We have a 15rd mag limit here in CO, army put me here, but they can sell "mag repair kits" which are just 30rd mags disassembled in the package.

Doc
 
Look I'm gonna say this, I've been in the reloading game for 11 years now. I am also in the army which doesn't pay much as we all know. I live within my means, which also means I cant just go out and buy 10k primers or 400lbs of powder. However most of this shit is being bought up just to resell at a ridiculous price.

If you think that's fair, moral, free market or capitalism, then you are an asshole and I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Now politely fuck off.

Doc
Be mad at the people buying them at ridiculous prices. If people stopped paying, theyd stop selling.
 
Look I'm gonna say this, I've been in the reloading game for 11 years now. I am also in the army which doesn't pay much as we all know. I live within my means, which also means I cant just go out and buy 10k primers or 400lbs of powder. However most of this shit is being bought up just to resell at a ridiculous price.

If you think that's fair, moral, free market or capitalism, then you are an asshole and I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Now politely fuck off.

Doc
Army pays great.

All living expenses are paid for, housing, food, cloths, medical. Cheap shopping at px and commisary, cheap gas. Hell most bases have cheap skeet and trap shooting, rec rentals and even shops with tools so you dont have to have your own to tinker on shit.

You can easily max TSP every year and still have plenty of disposible income.

Still trying to understand why you feel entitled to cheap reloading compoments way below market value.

You should use your GI bill benefits or head down the the education office and take Macroeconomics from UMUC.
 
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Army pays great.

All living expenses are paid for, housing, food, cloths, medical. Cheap shopping at px and commisary, cheap gas. Hell most bases have cheap skeet and trap shooting, rec rentals and even shops with tools so you dont have to have your own to tinker on shit.

You can easily max TSP every year and still have plenty of disposible income.

Still trying to understand why you feel entitled to cheap reloading compoments way below market value.

You should use your GI bill benefits or head down the the education office and take Macroeconomics from UMUC.
Prices in the commissary and PX are the same as anywhere. Plus they charge a surcharge, which is a tax. So its the same if I shop on or off post.

My uniforms weren't paid for, j bought them out of my pocket. The only o es who were issued multicam are the ones who went through BCT since they were put into service.

Housing is paid for.

Gas is the same prices as off post.

Where do you live where they have on post ranges that you cam just go to?

I even had to buy my own Army Service Uniform, new dress uniform because I wasnt in BCT at that time.

Also DOD make a law saying they couldnt sell tobacco products cheaper than the surrounding area back in 2009 after I came back from iraq.

Alcohol is the same price on or off post.

You are a dreamer at best.

When it's a false market value because of people buying it all up and then selling it for 10 times what they bought it for isnt market value. You are delirious. Did you take your meds this morning.

Do you know how I know how primers arent 500 per 1k, because when they are in stock they are selling for 35-40 dollars as they did last year. Yes they dont always have them but when they do they arent 500 dollars. So yeah it's a false market.

I'll send you my W2s from last year and then you try to tell me the army pays great

Now politely fuck off.

Doc
 
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Price controls would guarantee that nobody would have powder or primers. I think that's been well proven in Venezuela and other countries with a "planned" economy. Right now anyone who really needs supplies can buy them. One just has to really need them to pay the price. I'm pretty sure that's the way we want it, right?
 
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