Future of the ASR

[Cold_Bore_88]

So what’s the word on the future of the ASR? I understand it just dropped at shot but I have read some posts says they plan to have a standard rifle package and AICS chassis optiojnin the future.

Was contemplating buying an AT or AX. Should I wait and see if we get an ASR in Short Action?

 

[leftyk82]

Applying what I heard from Mike on the Everyday Sniper podcast..........

If the PSR was the granddaddy to the AXMC, out of which came the AX Short Action, then the ASR is the granddaddy of a yet to be released long action multi-caliber rifle and the short action would be after that.

This, of course, could be completely wrong.

 

[Bkultra]

It was my understanding that since the ASR will utilize a small firing pin, a short action wasn't going to be made.

 

[matleez]

i would imagine that there will be a short action, being that not alot of people ran SRP in stuff like this when the ax came out you could have said the same thing about the the AXMC vs AXSA, so i assume that well see a short action ASR or whatever it will be called, that being said im waiting for prices to go down on the AXSA like they did for the MC

 

[acg]

So what’s the word on the future of the ASR? I understand it just dropped at shot but I have read some posts says they plan to have a standard rifle package and AICS chassis optiojnin the future.

Was contemplating buying an AT or AX. Should I wait and see if we get an ASR in Short Action?

By checking the ASR picture, I found the receiver is kind of open top on eject port, I don't like this design. I highly possible will grab a AXMC.

 

[BurnOut]

I'll tell y'all what I think would be a killer move for AI... would be a ATMC. It's possible that it'd take a lot of the wind out of the AXMC's sails, but I really think that they could make up for it in volume with a long action/convertible version of the AT.

 

[matleez]

I'll tell y'all what I think would be a killer move for AI... would be a ATMC. It's possible that it'd take a lot of the wind out of the AXMC's sails, but I really think that they could make up for it in volume with a long action/convertible version of the AT.

what do you see the price of that being if it happened? id think around 5.5k-7k?

 

[BurnOut]

what do you see the price of that being if it happened? id think around 5.5k-7k?

Well, with zero insight into AI's product line and no industry contacts whatsoever, I'd guess that $1k-$1.5k over the price of the AT would be feasible... but that's just a complete WAG. It's kind of difficult to say at this point considering the AXMC sale that's going on.

 

[Silvan]

Applying what I heard from Mike on the Everyday Sniper podcast..........

If the PSR was the granddaddy to the AXMC, out of which came the AX Short Action, then the ASR is the granddaddy of a yet to be released long action multi-caliber rifle and the short action would be after that.

This, of course, could be completely wrong.

Looks like, SA will not be
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...national-axsr-pre-order.6926533/#post-7523575

 

[Cold_Bore_88]

Looks like, SA will not be
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...national-axsr-pre-order.6926533/#post-7523575

That sucks man. The new ASR chassis is a huge improvement over that AX. May just buy an AT and call it good.

 

[NoLegs24]

You’re not wanting to run it in Long Action?

 

[Dthomas3523]

Looks like, SA will not be
https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...national-axsr-pre-order.6926533/#post-7523575

That’s just a pre-order for the MC replacement.

Doesn’t mean they won’t be replacing the AX down the road.

 

[Dthomas3523]

You’re not wanting to run it in Long Action?

I have no interest in the LA personally. I’m sure there are others as well.

Not sure if there’s enough of a market to make a replacement for the AX using the ASR, but if it was in the 6k area like the AX, I’d be a buyer.

 

[NoLegs24]

The SA AX's are $7.5k. Highly doubt a replacement will in the $6k are. You'll be looking shy of $8k for it.

Again, the SFP in the ASR/ AXSR can kill the motion in going forward with a SA version.

 

[Notdylan]

Excuse me gentlemen but the ASR is going to be the Barrett MRAD

 

[Dthomas3523]

The SA AX's are $7.5k. Highly doubt a replacement will in the $6k are. You'll be looking shy of $8k for it.

Again, the SFP in the ASR/ AXSR can kill the motion in going forward with a SA version.

Might be 7.5k retail, but can be had for far less by calling a vendor.

Is their reasoning only because the ASR mc replacing can do both, there is no need to produce a SA?

 

[NoLegs24]

I'm just throwing MSRP numbers bud....

Yeah, basically. Wonder how many people would buy the SA AX's if the MC's came out with a SFP bolt assemblies off the bat.

 

[Silvan]

That’s just a pre-order for the MC replacement.

Doesn’t mean they won’t be replacing the AX down the road.

NoLegs mentioned they are not considering a SA for the ACR.

 

[Dthomas3523]

I'm just throwing MSRP numbers bud....

Yeah, basically. Wonder how many people would buy the SA AX's if the MC's came out with a SFP bolt assemblies off the bat.

I’ll be buying the chassis once it releases for 700 platforms.

If it feels good enough, might be forced to buy an ASR.

 

[Silvan]

That sucks man. The new ASR chassis is a huge improvement over that AX. May just buy an AT and call it good.

I personally do not see significant improvements/differences, a few design’s minor changes with no influence on accuracy, reliability and etc.
The huge and main step has been done in the AXMC generation.

 

[Dthomas3523]

I personally do not see significant improvements/differences, a few design’s minor changes with no influence on accuracy, reliability and etc.
The huge and main step has been done in the AXMC generation.

For many people, the “hump” on the AX and MC in front of the magwell was just too tall.

The ASR shrinks it a little while providing two barricade stops.

Also the ability to swap grips is nice.

I haven’t had a chance to feel the new bolt design, but heard it’s very nice.

Sometimes it’s little things that make a big difference for some. Won’t be anymore accurate, but will be more comfortable.

 

[Silvan]

I'm just throwing MSRP numbers bud....

Yeah, basically. Wonder how many people would buy the SA AX's if the MC's came out with a SFP bolt assemblies off the bat.

That depends on goals. I sold out all magnums recently, therefore a LA is not needed.

 

[AIAW]

These designs are always driven by government requirements, not by civilian consumers. At least that's how it's traditionally been, but over the last few years we've seen this change slightly. SFP and Arca-Swiss are two good examples. I believe these were entirely driven by the civilian market.

Simplified AW Series History:

AW 1.0 - Fixed everything. No stock adjustments. Butt plate spacers required.

AW 1.5 - +Adjustable cheek-rest. +Monopod optional.

AW 2.0 - +Left folding stock.

AX - Moved to pistol-grip style. Redesigned bolt. Removed Parker-Hale mount. Full main Picatinny rail. Accessory rails. Stock fully adjustable. Side-loadable magazine well. Color choices.

AXSA/AXMC/PSR - Essentially a model of the PSR contract submission. Full chassis redesign. Right-folding stock. Multi-caliber. Dedicated barrel tenon. PSR required forend removal to swap barrels. AXMC does not. More color choices.

AXSR - ASR SOCOM submission. Bolt redesign. Small firing pin. New barrel system. New trigger design. New safety design. Arca-Swiss forward grip. Factory caliber choices. Color choices, again.

Might have missed some stuff. Got enough out to make my point I feel.

If you look at every version over the years it has been driven by military requests or contract requirements. Entirely understandable there. A military contract is worth all of the rifles you could possibly sell to the civilian market (at least in this price range). I am curious if AI will change up their strategies in the future. Not as if they need to really.

As far as the AXSR goes, I'll probably get one some day and run some wildcat caliber on it; dedicated most likely. I don't feel the changes are enough to make me really really want one ASAP.

 

[Silvan]

I don't feel the changes are enough to make me really really want one ASAP.

Agree.

 

[radonkun]

Wait for ASR chassis, hope it will not too expensive. The ASR kit comes with a 308 barrel, so it should be okay with the short action. AI may have new AW magazine for short action ammo use in the long action.

 

[Mr. F]

Wait for ASR chassis, hope it will not too expensive. The ASR kit comes with a 308 barrel, so it should be okay with the short action. AI may have new AW magazine for short action ammo use in the long action.

If you mean a new mag for the ASR then yes. Per the thread on the ASR it ill have a spacer built in thus eliminating the use of the magwell spacer currently used on the MC to shoot short cals

 

[NateVA]

Excuse me gentlemen but the ASR is going to be the Barrett MRAD

Didn't the last one go to Remington before that? I just can't get excited about the contract process.

 

[Notdylan]

Didn't the last one go to Remington before that? I just can't get excited about the contract process.

Yes but Remington dropped the ball (surprise!) and had their contract pulled.

 

[NateVA]

Yes but Remington dropped the ball (surprise!) and had their contract pulled.

The fact that it went to Remington in the first place doesn't inspire confidence in the process. Though I'm sure Barrett will be a big step up.

 

[AIAW]

Well, the same company that made the Pinto also makes a GT, so...

The M24 has served it's purpose very well sine 1988. One might consider that the first "modern" XSR contract.

 

[acg]

Well, the same company that made the Pinto also makes a GT, so...

The M24 has served it's purpose very well sine 1988. One might consider that the first "modern" XSR contract.

It is people working in the company make the gun, not the company. Rem today is not the same Rem back in 80s.