I agree with @toeheadAR that 0moa is fine. 20moa is mostly used when dialing at longer distances; it’s not helpful for holdovers. This also keeps you near the optical center so the glass is slightly clearer and less distorted.
Im gonna throw mine in a ADM 0MOA 34mm mount for testing.
Have you read this thread? Lol..
Have you read this thread? Lol..
Not sure how accurate it is, but Midway shows an expected arrival date of late Feb.
Any word on when these are shipping? I've got the MOA version on pre-order from CameraLand. Haven't seen much additional information surface on these, just anxiously awaiting some news!
Athlon told SWFA they have none in stock and there is no ETA on this scope.
I ordered one from them because they had an MOA version as "in stock". Emailed them as to the status and this was their answer.
I see Midway has the cheaper version 1-10x SFP as "available".
Anyone hear anything else?
I ordered one from them because they had an MOA version as "in stock". Emailed them as to the status and this was their answer.
I see Midway has the cheaper version 1-10x SFP as "available".
Anyone hear anything else?
Spoke to my contacts at Athlon on Tuesday. Said mine will be shipping to me for review the 2nd or 3rd week of March. I assume this is when they will have received their shipment for everyone else as well but dont quote me on that.
Thanks for the updates.
I'll probably get one from Cameraland when I get me refund.
Canceled my order with SWFA. Not sure how swfa could not know when a reviewer and vender here already have an eta, but seems to me they are FOS at SWFA or just have no clue, or maybe just don't want to commit with an answer?
I'll probably get one from Cameraland when I get me refund.
Canceled my order with SWFA. Not sure how swfa could not know when a reviewer and vender here already have an eta, but seems to me they are FOS at SWFA or just have no clue, or maybe just don't want to commit with an answer?
And, is it 1-10x24 like Athlon says or 28 like the retailers quote?
And will the MOA BDC work for .308?
Too many questions not enough answers.
Since nobody has them yet other than early testers the answer is dont know. We should have them in hand next week or the following and will post full reviews.
Pretty much everything from China and overseas is being delayed due to shipping/docking/offloading being incredibly backed up.
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is this a chinese made scope? I'll admit I'm not familiar with most of the Athlon lineup, but a $1k asking price is a lot for a chinese lvpo vs something made in Japan or the Philippines...
The Area ETR line is made in China, but it’s not chinesium. It’s a couple hundred bucks cheaper than the exact thing made in PH (save $300 on labor, add $100 in quality control) and about half the price of something comparable made in Japan (save $1000 in labor, add $150 in quality control).
Sure like the profile of the Primary Arms. The bubble look where the erector mech is setup on the Razor and the Athlon isn't aesthetically pleasing to me. Yes, I realize that if I was a real ninja I wouldn't care how it looks.
Really want to like this scope, hoping it has the "razor effect" where the scope/turrets disappear at 1x, daylight bright, and a forgiving eyebox up to 10x. I'm ready to spend the money if it's good to go.
Between this and the PA 1-10 made by JOLusa.
Between this and the PA 1-10 made by JOLusa.
I had a couple of Arrowhead 1-10's and I liked them quite a bit. Used them as a placeholder for when the Gen lll's finally came out. I like them so much I ended up keeping one and selling the other. I really was surprised at how nice the glass was and it held zero on a AR308.
Very little fisheye on 1x just at the very edges, and I could make out the detail on tree bark at 170 yds.
Called Athlon today, they said they got pushed back ~45 days from original forecast due to some issues. I'm taking that as a positive note that when they are fully released they will be 100%. They are taking pre-orders for expected ship/arrival in late April.
I'm gonna be a guinea pig and sell off one of my LOW scopes to pay for this so hopefully I'm not shooting myself in the foot!
I'm gonna be a guinea pig and sell off one of my LOW scopes to pay for this so hopefully I'm not shooting myself in the foot!
For clarity, “issues” is almost certainly the harbor backlog that means some stuff I bought from Taiwan for my day job is going to be ~6wk late.
This is my expectation, too. EVERYTHING coming from overseas is backed up, and we're seeing crazy increases in literally all of our supplies. If it was a "quality" issue with the scopes themselves, we'd be looking at a delay of many months -- not weeks.
I wager that it is 27 oz. Given that the Midas BTR Gen 2 is a 1-6 and a 30mm, it comes in at 18.1 oz...
The new Helos BTR 1-10x28 has a 34mm tube as well and is listed as 16 oz, so hopefully closer to 19 than 27. I wouldn't imagine FFP vs SFP would add that much weight?
Ya I have a hard time seeing 27 oz when the 2.5-15x50 ares btr is near that with 50mm glass. Time will tell I guess.
Fairly certain Philippines for the GLx line. PLx are the only Japanese and SLx is Chinese. They’ve clarified that on here before.
It is made in Japan. Marshall has confirmed that several times.
Also the tiers don't necessarily correlate with were they are made. What you said is a good guide, but the glx 2x prism scope is china and the 1-10 is Japan
Also the tiers don't necessarily correlate with were they are made. What you said is a good guide, but the glx 2x prism scope is china and the 1-10 is Japan
This is not correct, when I made that comment earlier this year the person I spoke to said they did not like the first batch and had some things to correct (that's why I said when it's finally released it "should" be 100%).
I obviously never went through with the order and settled on a Gen3 Razor instead. Hopefully they give an update, in my opinion the silence does not bode well. Just my two cents.
Late July is the last I heard from Athlon rep, but there's been so many delays another wouldn't surprise me.
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