G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

[USAFCATM]

I purchased a DPMS Platform that G.A. Precision did alot work on and made one fine shooter. It's quite capable of handling works as my rig for LE purposes. However, I was on the market for a LaRue OBR at the time when I happened to find this rifle. I decided to go with this rifle because at the time the OBR's were having teething problems...I couldn't have a rifle that wasn't performing. Well now I haven't heard much on the OBR anymore except for what LaRue has controlled. I'm not saying there's a problem with that but I like to hear in-put from other that the makers of one rifle. I've done searching around here and found some accuracy comparisons but not much else. I was wondering what the word is about the OBR, as I'm debating whether I should continue to save for either an 18" or 20" OBR form LE Precision work or if my G.A. Precision built AR10 is the way I should go. I have outfitted it currently with a Leupold 2.5-10x and is awaiting a Larue SPR mount and CTR with RISR.

I am also considering an ATLAS Bipod for future purchase.

Thanks for the input...

 

[Jrb572]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

I would stick with what you have. GAP builds a sweet AR10. What's wrong with it?

 

[ssatt68]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

Buy another GAP 10 before you buy an OBR

 

[-Nick-]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

You haven't said how it shoots. If it's a sub-moa shooter then why swap? Given the money I would go with a GAP-10, JP LRP 07, or even the LMT MWS before the OBR.

 

[jaycoux]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

I'm not sure what teething problems you are referring to, but I have never had a single problem with any of mine.

As for hearing from people not associated with the company I am at a loss to understand why you wouldn't do a quick google search as there are plenty of range reports out there. You might also go over to the arfcom site as there tend to be more larue supporters over there.

Having said all that you seem to have a rifle that is very capable right now. Why would you want something else?

Last, there is a considerable wait for the 18 and 20" obr last time I checked. If you want something sooner rather than later you should get a gap 10.

Hope that helps,
J

 

[K_4c]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

A lot of Larue haters here... That being said my opinion on the OBR is above all other AR 10 platforms on the market. Sub moa groups and not one FTF. Bolt action accuracy is certainly obtainable.


I've owned other high end AR-10's ( Lmt mws and LWRC REPR)... I'll keep my OBR.

 

[K_4c]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

Harris for quick deployment bipods...

Atlas for precision work...

 

[VKC]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

That's not a GAP-10, but if GA Precision did "a lot of work on it and made one finer shooter"...what's the question? Stick with this rifle and save up for a better optics.

 

[USAFCATM]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

It's a sub-moa shooter, but I was wondering if there was anything that I maybe missing out on with the OBR. As for early teething problems, there were issues with them accepting PMags along with a few other issues. I try not to listen to all the hype of a rifle manufacturer on how good their rifle is, I want no BS input from actual people. I spoke with some Special Operators when I was in AFSOC that carried the OBR and they seemed to be quite pleased with them, but some had minor issues in the beginning. Also are the rifles they release to civilians held to the same standards as those that are in SOF Operators hands? I'm wondering if people that currently have the OBR and have had them for awhile are still getting the same accuracy, how are they holding up. Etc.

As for my rifle...I should clarify; it's a Mike Rock Barrel and the rest is all components assembled by G.A. Precision who used DPMS Lower and Upper.

 

[hk dave]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

I think you'd be quite happy with either a GAP-10 or Larue OBR.

GA Precision supports this site so a lot of folks here love them. Doesn't mean they make better rifles than Larue.

Personally I went with the OBR...

Of course i'm just saving some pennies to get a GAP-10 now.

Whenever the question in the gun world is, "Should I get this or this?" The best answer is, "Both".

 

[onyx1357]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

I have shot a few obr and all have been sub moa can't really complain my self

 

[GUNNER10]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

i would keep what you have, the OBR is nice, but isn’t going to give you any increased capability,
some thoughts
in regards to the "Special Operator" that you spoke with about their OBR, that interesting. I have been working at one of the Army's largest test centers in the country and have not seen one larue rifle come through here for any official testing. be it 556 or 762.

Now I know there is some stuff out there that we MAY have not seen, but when you add in the hundred page pic thread over on ar15 of SF types in action, and there is a stunning lack of OBR's. one really has to question where the hell are all these OBR's we have pic's of SEAL Team 6 and Delta force with all kind of high speed stuff but we cant catch one OBR in the wild? seriously?

When given the opportunity to submit a rifle or component for the next carbine, they took a pass.

Why, they make good stuff right? They say its a money issue and not worth it? but why, because they dont have anything that they feel could improve the current system? or because they have a rabid fan base that would be devastated if there product would shit the bed?

I really dont have an issue with the OBR or LT in general, I just have not seen officially put through the wringer. And have yet to see one in the wild outside of a sniper competition a few years back

 

[K_4c]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GUNNER10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i would keep what you have, the OBR is nice, but isn’t going to give you any increased capability,
some thoughts
in regards to the "Special Operator" that you spoke with about their OBR, that interesting. I have been working at one of the Army's largest test centers in the country and have not seen one larue rifle come through here for any official testing. be it 556 or 762.

Now I know there is some stuff out there that we MAY have not seen, but when you add in the hundred page pic thread over on ar15 of SF types in action, and there is a stunning lack of OBR's. one really has to question where the hell are all these OBR's we have pic's of SEAL Team 6 and Delta force with all kind of high speed stuff but we cant catch one OBR in the wild? seriously?

When given the opportunity to submit a rifle or component for the next carbine, they took a pass.

Why, they make good stuff right? They say its a money issue and not worth it? but why, because they dont have anything that they feel could improve the current system? or because they have a rabid fan base that would be devastated if there product would shit the bed?

I really dont have an issue with the OBR or LT in general, I just have not seen officially put through the wringer. And have yet to see one in the wild outside of a sniper competition a few years back



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Seen any GAP's roll through?

 

[p951951951t]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

FWIW, I shot this group with my OBR on Saturday. I've had it for about a month now, and the groups just keep getting better. I don't think .3moa is out of the question. FGMM <span style="font-style: italic">averages</span> >.7moa, and I'm still learning to drive it properly.

 

[USAFCATM]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GUNNER10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i would keep what you have, the OBR is nice, but isn’t going to give you any increased capability,
some thoughts
in regards to the "Special Operator" that you spoke with about their OBR, that interesting. I have been working at one of the Army's largest test centers in the country and have not seen one larue rifle come through here for any official testing. be it 556 or 762.</div></div>

Gunner10,
The only time I saw the OBR in the hands of a operator was at competition or on exercises. One was a mission where I flew on a CV-22 out of my base. We flew out and picked up some ARNG SF personnel and conducted a raid for an exercise held in our area. While deployed I never did see OBR's but I don't know if that means anything. So please, I do NOT want what I said to sound as though I was making it gossip.

 

[TripleD]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

I wouldnt change to a new gun if yours is fine. In my (limited) experience with OBRs they are GTG. There are limiting factors though. The proprietary barrel extension is one. You arent going to go ordering then stabbing any ol' barrel on it should you choose to later. Also, their gas port arrangement is unique & I dont think there is a gas block that will fit that gives broad adjustability.

It is interesting that none have been submitted for official testing. I would think a company would like to take part in that. At any rate, it isnt conclusive proof of anything that Larue didnt participate. If the Army didnt test it....doesnt mean anything at the end of the day. You may be taking part in a great testing program, I dont know so I would not want to say anything judgmental toward you at all GUNNER10(Please dont take it like that). The Army is pretty good at dicking up shit & making poor choices (so far as a track record goes).

 

[GUNNER10]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

its cool,

i am sure that there have been military personel trying out the OBR, like that compition a few years back, hell when I was in the Marines, they gave us HK MG36's and Colt LMG's to test against the saw, this was the test that laid the ground work for the Marines adoption of the m27 IAR. so it may be out there may be some out there being messed around with but i wouldnt put put much thought into it other than a vendor wanting to put a bug in sombodies ear.

my problem is that we absolutly hammer stuff in testing far worse than what it would see in combat situations and it would be nice to get some legitimate DATA on the weapon system. you know like barrel life, dispersion, accuracy, endurance, temp, dust ect.


the IC test is going to bring out alot of interesting data on what works and does not work, while there are some big name players participating in the test there are also smaller vendors who have some pretty inovative stuff in the compition.

how will that shake out, cant wait for the test result to be published, its going to be good.

at the end of the day, there is an ongoing effort to improve or replace a US weapon system, and LT opted out.

there is legitimate test data on weapons such as the Kac, sr25, the LMT mws and the hk417, i just dont see a reason to pay a premium for a non tested weapon,

not say its not an accurate weapon but you can make a dpms plenty accurate if you drop a giesell trigger in it and top it off with a krieger or barline, obermyer barrel on it.

 

[ssatt68]

Re: G.A. Built AR10, should I consider a LaRue OBR?

JP, GAP, LMT and the OBR are all in the same catagory and for all intensive purposes the same rifle. I perfer the JP and GAP products because of the people in the company. All before mentioned companies are probably not interested in building "military spec" rifles.