G*D D*M& crimped primers

[rrflyer]

So i bought a bunch of 1x fired black hills match brass. Then bought a super swage 600 to remove the crimp....

But these fuggin things still wont seat primers. The black hills swage is all over the place...left of center, right of center.

I've tried deep de-swaging and crushed the fuggin case web on some in order to get these damn things to even start to seat a primer...and about 1/5 still crushes the PRIMER!!!!!!1


AGHGHGHHGH

NEVER AGAIN!

 

[Jester8]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

I agree, it is a PITA to remove. I know that some people use a case mouth chamfer to remove the crimp, if your desperate try that.

 

[Suasponte]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

Take your case mouth chamferer and lightly chamfer the edge of the pockets. Just a few twist of it will make a big difference.

Tray a few and see if that helps.

Terry

 

[rrflyer]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

I have and it helps somewhat but honestly I give up on this brass. I'm just puttin it all in the recycle bin.


Its not worth a shaved primer blasting gas back into my eye because it didn't seat correctly.

 

[chansen49]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers



Black Hills brass sucks like that.. Its NOT on my list of keeper brass.



Ch

 

[bachelorjack]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

Gimme. I'll take it.

What are you priming with? I've had luck with the rcbs with the universal jaws and wiggling the case while i start to seat the primer. Dunno if that will help, but it works for me when I'm trying to seat swaged brass with screwy pockets.

 

[zuke]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

RCBS chamfer tool and a cordless drill.

 

[M700Love]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

RCBS chamfer tool and two hands worked for me, although after about 50 rounds your hands start to cramp some what.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chansen49</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Black Hills brass sucks like that.. Its NOT on my list of keeper brass.



Ch </div></div>

Really, because its made by Winchester, and after proper prep shoots great, and lasts a long time.

 

[colt933]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

CHEAP AND EASY WAY TO REMOVE CRIMPS

 

[chansen49]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers


Ive never seen or had any winchester brass that had the primer holes SO off center, or half assed crimped primper pockets,, So yeah, it sucks..


But if like workin with it, power to ya..

Ch

 

[MitchAlsup]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

I just cut the crimp out with an exacto knife! Really!

Lay the fresh blade on the crimp and roll the case into the edge. You are just trying to take off the edge and not actually cut into the pocket. Takes about 10 seconds per case.

 

[gunsnjeeps]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

How much was the brass? How much do you have left?

 

[zuke]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: colt933</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> CHEAP AND EASY WAY TO REMOVE CRIMPS </div></div>


I like the way you think!

 

[seanh]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

I was thinking of doing just that. I've got about 500 rounds of brass for plinking that I need to remove the crimp from and have just passed on for a while...PIA.

I haven't tried the other companies but Sinclare has some good primer pocket tools.
http://www.sinclairintl.com/.aspx/cid=0/...h=primer_pocket

 

[EricF517]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

I use LC brass for the wife's Mini SASS, and have used the Dillon 1050 to do her brass. Bare shell plate other than the sizing die. I haven't had a problem with it yet.

 

[colt933]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zuke</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: colt933</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> CHEAP AND EASY WAY TO REMOVE CRIMPS </div></div>


I like the way you think!

</div></div>

1 second or less of cutting time = quick and easy!

 

[TexIndian]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

I used an RBCS swaging kit for years. It worked but was a real PITA. Then I got one of the Sinclair pocket reamers for my Wilson trimmer and it is really sweet but is slow. I swore I would never get any crimped brass again.

Then I lucked into a great deal on once-fired brass shot in bolt guns only from a sniper training school. I bought more than I care to discuss only to find that almost all of it was crimped - LC Match, BH Match, and Fed in .223 and .308.

I broke down and got one of the Dillon swagers because I had heard such good things about it (about $120 delivered). I'm just getting started with it but it works great so far, not nearly as much hassle as with the RBCS kit (I haven't got into the BH stuff yet). I really like the Sinclair reamer because it won't distort the case head at all like any swager will, but it's just too slow for the volume work I'm looking at.

 

[Rovieairto]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zuke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RCBS chamfer tool and a cordless drill. </div></div>
+1
I now have the super-swager, but I used to decrimp lots of cases with this method.
For this brass I'd put it in a bucket and come back to it later when I'm not so pissed.
I believe this is pretty much how black hills does it with their reloaded mil cases, albeit with better equipment.

The swager may add a little hardness to the primer pocket but crushing the web is no damn good.

You can fly through it with the cordless drill.
Your angry now but the next step is acceptance.

 

[TexIndian]

Re: G*D D*M& crimped primers

I was really disappointed when I saw the bad remarks about Black Hills Match brass above. Like I mentioned yesterday, I bought several thousand rounds of this brass 5-6 years ago that I was just about to start processing.

Since my last post I have now decapped over 4,000 rounds of BHM and have run several hundred through the Dillon Super Swager. I have cleaned about 1200 rounds with the new stainless steel media method. I have yet to find a single off-center flash hole and I haven't had any problems in the swaging that I didn't have with the other brands of brass. I have not reprimed all this brass but I did test a few by seating some of the CCI #34 primers with no problems. I chose these primers for testing because they tend to be a bit larger than regular large rifle primers.

The one difference I have noted is that I get a few cases per hundred where the SS media gets stuck in the flash hole (two pieces side-by-side). I had the same problem with Win brass, but not with any of the other brands. I'm guessing the flash holes Win punches are a tad smaller than the others.

Exactly what kind of problems are you guys having? Have I just not gone far enough yet to find them? Is this possibly a relatively recent issue (since my brass is all older than 5-6 years)?

BTW, I've often heard guys talk about using the RBCS deburring tool mounted in a drill to keep their fingers from cramping, although it seems it would have to be a 1/4" drill in order to be able to reach in and get a good chuck on the center stem. They've also talked about using a drill press for consistent cuts (you have to trim the cases to the same length first).