GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

[jrservices]

I will soon be purchasing an AR10, I have a GAP 300 winmag and could not be happier with it so I am leaning that way. I have also heard many good things about the POF. I guess I am looking for the most accurate within 600 yds. So which one would you go with and why? Also what barrel length would be ideal. I know the general idea is the longer the better, but am thinking 18" or so...

Thanks
Richard

 

[oneshot onekill]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

My only experience is with POF. They're pretty damn accurate but from what I understand about GAP, they specialize in accuracy. POF is also a Piston-gun. I don't know about the GAP. I don't think I'm helping much... Am I?

If it were me and I was most interested in accuracy I'd go GAP. FWIW

 

[ORD]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

You'll be hard pressed to beat a custom GAP rig versus any factory rifle and I am a proud POF P-308 owner saying this.

First, for the POF...mine has a 20" Rock 5R barrel and with quality match ammo and my reloads, is a solid 3/4MOA rifle and I think I will be able to get better than that with load development. I have shot some 1/2MOA groups with mine, but I won't call it a 1/2MOA rifle without more trigger time and load dev. Every other P-308 I have fired was sub-MOA capable. Mine has been 100% reliable with Magpul LR-20 PMAGs (DPMS and C-Prod mags has issues). I also really like the piston operation of the POF if you are planning on suppressing the rifle. It takes a lot longer to get the rifle filthy dirty when shooting suppressed as compared to the standard DI gas system. Finally, they are excellent rifles and are available (in stock) with different dealers right now.

The GAP should outshine the POF in terms of accuracy. The last AR-10 that George and crew built that I had a chance to shoot was a solid 1/2 MOA rifle with 175gr reloads. If you run a search here on the forum, you should find plenty of experiences with people having excellent results with their GAP AR-10/LR-308 rifles. Reliability will also be just what you'd expect from a GAP rifle. The only downside to getting a GAP AR-10 will be the wait time. I can't tell you exactly how long a wait you are looking at, but I would guess you are looking at a long one. You'll need to check the GAP Leadtime thread or get in touch with GAP personally about a full build.

As for barrel length...that is up to you. 600yds and in...a 16" barreled 308 will get the job done and get it done accurately. The 18" and 20" barrels will give you an edge in terms of increased muzzle velocity which will be advantageous with heavier bullets at extended ranges (generally).

You will be pleased with both the POF or the GAP, but if it were me, and I didn't mind the wait or a DI versus a piston operated rifle, I'd get the GAP custom built to your specs.

 

[deersniper]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

+1.

Pure accuracy: GAP
Shooting with a can: POF.

I have a couple GAP bolt guns, but I bought POF's for AR15 and AR10 platforms, because they are accurate enough for me and I shoot 100% suppressed.

 

[SCOOBY]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

I checked with GA Precision on friday and the build time is currently 12 months for one.

 

[BCP]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

If you want velocity a longer barrel would be good. My 18" makes a 175 go a little over 2500 and a 168 go around 2550-2575 with near-max loads of accurate 2520 powder.

18" does look really cool though.

As for those 2 manufacturers I can't see you being disappointed with either one.

 

[BCP]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scooby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I checked with GA Precision on friday and the build time is currently 12 months for one.

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I think there are a couple used ones in the FS section.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used rifle right now, lots of people upside in mortgages who are selling off toys out there.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

I can't comment on GAP or POF. My AR10 has a Noveske 21" barrel.

I will tell you that if you will only be shooting to 600, then a 16-18" barrel is all you need. The only reason I have a 21" is because I want to see how far I can push this rifle.

 

[SCOOBY]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

Yeah I've seen a few for sell but I want one in a 260

. I'm going to go ahead and get one in the works and start the long wait.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scooby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I checked with GA Precision on friday and the build time is currently 12 months for one.

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I think there are a couple used ones in the FS section.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used rifle right now, lots of people upside in mortgages who are selling off toys out there. </div></div>

 

[rommel500]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

I can't comment on the GAP rifles (though they have a very good reputation) but I do have a 20" POF 308 and its awesome. Great accuracy, decent price, and good service. They all come standard with Rock Creek 5R barrel so you can't go wrong there....

 

[JSTARSZ]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

Like most things in life when you actually have the money and you want it now the builders like GAP are probably not going fit the bill or time frame in which you want it. I have a GAP built SASS and it is a great shooter. But, I had to wait for it. I truly understand the I want it now syndrome as I get that feeling often. Like now for instance I am waiting on a suppressor - nothing worse than waiting on that.

 

[colt933]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

I had a POF .308 gun that was one of the first ones from 2007 and it sucked. I sent it back twice and ended up selling it. It was unreliable and inaccurate. But it was one of the first ones.

My Noveske N6 is accurate and reliable.

 

[Onemoretime]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">LW, do you have any pics?</span> Nevermind I found it...

I'm going to be building a .260 in the future and I'm debating 18" or 20".

 

[ken201]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

I tried to deal with POF and they are terrible on service and lost orders. I have a GAP being built now and can't wait to get it. I also have a LWRC in 6.8 and it is a fantastic shooter so I would guess that the REPR is as well but have not shot it. I will never purchase a POF.

 

[Reverend762]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

Man I guess everyone has a different experience with POF. I called POF the other day to ask them if I could switch out my rail system because it had some extra writing on it that i didn’t think was necessary, and they told me to hold on for a second. Next thing I know I’m talking to the owner because he's the one that put the print on the rifle. We BS'ed for about ten minutes talking about rifles. Then he said whenever I want to switch out the rail system I could and that they would overnight it back to me". Where else can you just BS with the owner of a rifle manufacturer? I know back in the day I could with LaRue, but not anymore.

 

[Rob01]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

Frank is a hell of a nice guy isn't he? Can say the same for George too. Both are very good friends. Tough choice

 

[Reverend762]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

Ya he is. Frank was willing to bend over backwords just to exchange a rail system out, because there was a little extra writing on my POF.(I decided to keep it because its one of 50. ha ha).

 

[RainbowSandals]

Re: GAP AR-10 or POF and why ?

I have a Ga Precision and could not be happier. I would say it is worth the wait. I also have seen that POF has a pretty good lead time. I have seen a few Ga's in here for sale. If you want a blaster the POF is the way to go. If you want a super accurate ar style platform go with Ga Thanks