Gas Attack Video

Makes good people wanna do really bad shit in return. Absolutely disgusting. Animals? Respectfully disagree Sir. Animals are not capable of such horrors. They're just fucked up immoral humans that need to be put down, hard.:mad:
 
Just fuck...

Why is it the body count never includes the assholes responsible? Why are there NEVER assholes in suits among the dead? And where are all the targets, legitimate ones? I see no weapons and I only see one guy wearing armor and he looks like some kind of security guard, not a fighter. Not one had protective gear.

Most of the people they are trying to save are already dying... Looks like VX or a similar organophosphate "bugspray" agent. Possibly Sarin. Whatever the case, looks like the weapon was degraded because the POI should be near the guy that died instantly (the one in the fetal position with his face still covered). Too bad it was in an enclosed area, which made it more deadly.

Everyone of those fathers will be picking up a rifle now... The survivor children will grow up to do so as well. We will label them as terror groups and then start this shit all over again.
 
What would be the point of using chem weapons now? I can see someone in the field possibly thinking it was a good idea, cause fuck'em or whatever. Of the people that could possibly benefit from this, Assad isn't one of them, at least in my worthless opinion.
 
What would be the point of using chem weapons now? I can see someone in the field possibly thinking it was a good idea, cause fuck'em or whatever. Of the people that could possibly benefit from this, Assad isn't one of them, at least in my worthless opinion.

It's true though, right? I saw it on the news, so it has to be true.

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What would be the point of using chem weapons now? I can see someone in the field possibly thinking it was a good idea, cause fuck'em or whatever. Of the people that could possibly benefit from this, Assad isn't one of them, at least in my worthless opinion.

To bring it back to the top of the news cycle.
Or in other words the reason the EU needs to bring in another 1 million "refugees".

R
 
Unlike the white helmet video, this one looks pretty real to me. I'm sure there was alterior motives to this attack. Whatever the reason it's fucked up. And yes animals behave better. The perpetrators are insects. Godamn bugs.
 
Huh? So this was staged/ committed by the EU to justify refugees?

If you noticed I didn't say the EU did this.
They will however try to make capital from it.
If you think they aren't capable of this level of action to meet their goals you are mistaken.
Have you noticed the EU has been having more trouble in other countries now after Brexit?
Have you listened to Junker's recent speeches?
They are getting desperate to maintain their authority.
Charging Britain 50 billion to exit?
Le Pen is the next coming problem.
Geert could be another problem.
They will show their true face/intentions shortly in my opinion.

Interesting article to go with the above:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...dictive-nasty-demands-thank-goodness-leaving/

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It can be real and not what it's said to be at the same time. If the FSA (Al-Qaeda) came across some chem weapons, lobbing it at some civilians and blaming Assad could be beneficial. I'm not saying that's what happened because I don't know, but makes a lot more sense than Assad doing it.
 
Chemical attacks are against all conventions of war. Such events are newsworthy and were used as partial proof for the (fraudulent) invasion of Iraq. It's not an EU ploy to give this event air time.

The Brexit hasn't even been finalized. This is early stage negotiations. What the U.K. is asking for is the same as the idiot québécois with their requests for "independence". Basically we want our cake etc...

Europes been messed up since the CAP.
 
Chemical attacks are against all conventions of war. Such events are newsworthy and were used as partial proof for the (fraudulent) invasion of Iraq. It's not an EU ploy to give this event air time.

Conventions/rules are for UN and NATO meetings. You have more trust in these governments than I do.

The Brexit hasn't even been finalized. This is early stage negotiations. What the U.K. is asking for is the same as the idiot québécois with their requests for "independence". Basically we want our cake etc...

The British government and the EU have done everything in their power to deny a legal vote by the people. I would add many WW2 vets already paid the price for Brits to have their cake and eat it too.

Europes been messed up since the CAP.
I need to read more on CAP.


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Seeing those people going under and suffering from chemicals tears at my heart to say the least.
As I understand it, the chemicals were released by bombing a target that had this shit in it from years ago moved by Saddam out of his stock piles and not the bomb it's self.
That can't be as the Dems and Libtards assured us there were no WMD years ago.
What a horrible cluster fuck circle jerk this thing is, and if it is from old ordnance those cocksuckers will twist it around that it is new stuff rather than admit a mistake. FM
 
Chemical attacks are against all conventions of war.
So basically they did not play by the rules? When the Rules are broken every day from the top down. You would except some low level asshole to still abide by rules of war? I'm surprised this has not happen more to tell you the truth as any one with an IQ above room temp can make really bad shit in their own kitchen is short order. The sad part is although we should not be the worlds police force, I would do the same thing the Russians did during the Iran Hostage B/S when the Ga. peanut was in charge. Words w/o using the stick to teach do/mean squat. Seeing kids die like that makes me want to puke, but more so teach the doers plus everyone in their family the final chapter in what retaliation is in-store for anyone else who would try same. This same kind of B/S,(not teaching when required) is why we are dealing with crap all over this rock.

 
Sorry Im skeptical I reserve the right to hold back before I think its worth sending another American over there.

Trump should march into the UN today and tell those useless bags of puss that this is what they exist for If something needs to be done lets see the UN ball up and do something. If they do nothing we charge market rate rent and leave the organization.

Im not beyond thinking the opposition would do something to their own people or even fake a hit to get a reaction that helps them.

Assad is a dick wad but the world is full of dick wads and we do nothing.

He may be mean to his people but he was a secular dick that at least kept shit in his own territory neatly packaged.

If Assad is replaced will what replaces him be better?

Obam wanted the replacement of Assad and probably preferred some ISIS form of govt. It makes me sick that when he came to the US this week Sisi of Egypt is excoriated as "having thrown out the democratically elected Morsi" but in my mind he gave Egypt a chance to avoid an islamist regime that would have probably blown up the Pyramids as symbols of heresy.

Obam was against Sisi. If Obam is against Assad that means we should be for him.

Russia wants a port, Assad wants power. Iran wants a foothold so that it can get rid of both Assad and Russia at some point in the future.

Assad needs to be put back in the position of power, Russia can feel secure with its air base and port on the Med. Iran needs to be sent back and confined within its borders. Assad needs to learn that condition of his staying in power is under the understanding he loses a palace for every Hezbolla attack that he sanctions any where in the world. The people opposing assad are not carrying copies of the Constitution with them I assure you.

Obams support of the opposition has ensured that the suffering lasted much longer than it otherwise would have. His departure from Iraq directly fed the opposition in Syria, and yes the nexus of it all was GW Bush in 2003.

That being the case how do you fix it?

American military is not the answer but will only lead to more shit. Likewise at this point America supporting Assad will lead to more shit. There is more upside to getting Assad and Russia on board with a solution than contemplating the unknown which one thing can be assured they wont be concerned with the freedom of the individuals in the country to pursue their right to life and quest for happiness.

Whatever happens should also give strong consideration to how this plays in Turkey. Assad goes away Erdogan moves closer to Islamic Republic. Assad stays in power Erdogan may feel less threatened by the radicals and make the assumption he can remain in power yet still remain secular.

Solved it.
 
So basically they did not play by the rules? When the Rules are broken every day from the top down. You would except some low level asshole to still abide by rules of war? I'm surprised this has not happen more to tell you the truth as any one with an IQ above room temp can make really bad shit in their own kitchen is short order. The sad part is although we should not be the worlds police force, I would do the same thing the Russians did during the Iran Hostage B/S when the Ga. peanut was in charge. Words w/o using the stick to teach do/mean squat. Seeing kids die like that makes me want to puke, but more so teach the doers plus everyone in their family the final chapter in what retaliation is in-store for anyone else who would try same. This same kind of B/S,(not teaching when required) is why we are dealing with crap all over this rock.

Gun - what on earth do you gain by taking something I said out of context and then ranting? No I'm not surprised this has happened, it's happened before in Iraq, in Iran, in China by Japan during WW2 and by everyone in WW1... jesus man, get some fucking reading comprehension. My whole point was BECAUSE it's illegal, it will get press coverage and that press coverage doesn't necessarily mean there's an agenda. There may well BE one, but this event is news worthy nevertheless. Got it? Does that make sense to you?

Not saying Americans need to be boots on ground or anything else.

Now, onto the other parts of your rant. Russia has been your poster boy for foreign policy and domestic issues for a while and yet they still get the suicide bombers in their subways. There is no standard of State sanctioned brutality that exceeds what they did in Chechnya and the lessons they learned they helped Assad apply in Syria and yet... fuck all has changed. Their model doesn't solve shit unless you think they're soft pussies too and should just nuke everything. I admit, that probably has a very satisfying element of finality about it.

It seems we're all so keen to rant and say "oh how naive you are! I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS HOW SHIT EVERYTHING IS..." that we're not even reading what we're responding to...
 
Sorry Im skeptical I reserve the right to hold back before I think its worth sending another American over there.

Trump should march into the UN today and tell those useless bags of puss that this is what they exist for If something needs to be done lets see the UN ball up and do something. If they do nothing we charge market rate rent and leave the organization.

Im not beyond thinking the opposition would do something to their own people or even fake a hit to get a reaction that helps them.

Assad is a dick wad but the world is full of dick wads and we do nothing.

He may be mean to his people but he was a secular dick that at least kept shit in his own territory neatly packaged.

If Assad is replaced will what replaces him be better?

Obam wanted the replacement of Assad and probably preferred some ISIS form of govt. It makes me sick that when he came to the US this week Sisi of Egypt is excoriated as "having thrown out the democratically elected Morsi" but in my mind he gave Egypt a chance to avoid an islamist regime that would have probably blown up the Pyramids as symbols of heresy.

Obam was against Sisi. If Obam is against Assad that means we should be for him.

Russia wants a port, Assad wants power. Iran wants a foothold so that it can get rid of both Assad and Russia at some point in the future.

Assad needs to be put back in the position of power, Russia can feel secure with its air base and port on the Med. Iran needs to be sent back and confined within its borders. Assad needs to learn that condition of his staying in power is under the understanding he loses a palace for every Hezbolla attack that he sanctions any where in the world. The people opposing assad are not carrying copies of the Constitution with them I assure you.

Obams support of the opposition has ensured that the suffering lasted much longer than it otherwise would have. His departure from Iraq directly fed the opposition in Syria, and yes the nexus of it all was GW Bush in 2003.

That being the case how do you fix it?

American military is not the answer but will only lead to more shit. Likewise at this point America supporting Assad will lead to more shit. There is more upside to getting Assad and Russia on board with a solution than contemplating the unknown which one thing can be assured they wont be concerned with the freedom of the individuals in the country to pursue their right to life and quest for happiness.

Whatever happens should also give strong consideration to how this plays in Turkey. Assad goes away Erdogan moves closer to Islamic Republic. Assad stays in power Erdogan may feel less threatened by the radicals and make the assumption he can remain in power yet still remain secular.

Solved it.

Assad has for a long time been a puppet of the Iranian regime and has been a remote authority over Lebanon which in turn has been a safe base for Hamas and Hezbollah. Iran has no interest in getting rid of Assad. None. In fact, long before it become known, they were supplying instructors and military aid to Assad to fight the rebels. The FSA is Israeli supported and the turmoil in Syria is more than a little the product of Israel 'wishing both sides luck' and stoking shit when the fire was dying down. Why? For the same reasons Iran wants Assad to remain in power Israel would love to see Assad get a rough enema a la Gadaffi.

Russia is key ally to Iran in the UN and a backer of Iran's domestic nuclear power program. They're in cahoots and Russia's been sanction busting for Iran for a while and the trade off there is Assad is supported by Iran, Assad plays nice on the Port and everyone's happy.

Being for Assaf simply because Obama was against him... hmm.

Why on earth would Erdogan become radicalized? He's fighting ISIS who are busy planning on ground terrorism in Turkey. He wants an islamic cleric extradited to Turkey for 'questioning'. His greatest fear is Turkey going the route of Iran and becoming an Islamic Republic of Turkey (not ISIS) and him getting his well deserved just desserts.
 
Not that I trust Russia any more than I do our news media, but


MOSCOW, April 5. /TASS/. A Syrian aviation airstrike on the eastern outskirts of Khan Sheikhun on Tuesday targeted workshops to produce chemical-laden projectiles, a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry said Wednesday.

"According to Russian airspace monitoring systems, yesterday between 11.30 and 12.30 local time the Syrian aviation carried out an airstrike on the eastern outskirts of Khan Sheikhun, targeting a major ammunition storage facility of terrorists and a cluster of military hardware. The territory of this storage facility housed workshops to produce projectiles stuffed with toxic agents," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

"Video footage from social networks shows that those affected in Khan Sheikhun demonstrate the same symptoms of poisoning as the victims of the Aleppo attack had last fall," he added.

The official said that Russia has handed over all information about the incident to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which "still studies them."

"We assure that this information is completely unbiased and true," he added.

Earlier on Tuesday, Reuters reported, citing the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, that an airstrike by either Syrian or Russian air forces in the Idlib province left 58 people dead, including 11 children. The agency said that the strike was probably carried out by Syria’s government troops, who used an unknown "toxic gas."

The Russian Defense Ministry has immediately rejected the information as "fake," adding that none of its planes performed airstrikes on Khan Sheikhun and its outskirts.

Syria’s Defense Ministry blamed the attack on terrorists and their supporters and rejected any use of toxic agents in Khan Sheikhun. The country’s Foreign Ministry said the accusations against Damascus were "fabricated." Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad in an interview with the Al-Mayadeen radio said the government warned about the possibility of a similar attack several weeks ago.


 
Well the propaganda machine is in full sweat...

Steffi Stephanopoulos was dragged out for an afternoon show to...

1. Whip up the winds of foreign entanglement to divert Trump from his domestic agenda and set up bringing Cindy Sheehan out of retirement so that they can start every news cast with a casualty count.

2. Hold water for Susan Rice and state everything she did in unmasking was perfectly legal

oddly and fittingly there was a Northrop Grumman commercial after the Special Report.

We are being lied, lied, lied to.
 
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Well the propaganda machine is in full sweat...

Steffi Stephanopoulos was dragged out for an afternoon show to...

1. Whip up the winds of foreign entanglement to divert Trump from his domestic agenda and set up bringing Cindy Sheehan out of retirement so that they can start every news cast with a casualty count.

2. Hold water for Susan Rice and state everything she did in unmasking was perfectly legal

oddly and fittingly there was a Northrop Grumman commercial after the Special Report.

We are being lied, lied, lied to.

They may as well yell "hey look a squirrel"
Stephalumpagus is a first class weasel I'd like to kick in the puss.

R
 
Not that I trust Russia any more than I do our news media, but


MOSCOW, April 5. /TASS/. A Syrian aviation airstrike on the eastern outskirts of Khan Sheikhun on Tuesday targeted workshops to produce chemical-laden projectiles, a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry said Wednesday.

"According to Russian airspace monitoring systems, yesterday between 11.30 and 12.30 local time the Syrian aviation carried out an airstrike on the eastern outskirts of Khan Sheikhun, targeting a major ammunition storage facility of terrorists and a cluster of military hardware. The territory of this storage facility housed workshops to produce projectiles stuffed with toxic agents," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

"Video footage from social networks shows that those affected in Khan Sheikhun demonstrate the same symptoms of poisoning as the victims of the Aleppo attack had last fall," he added.

The official said that Russia has handed over all information about the incident to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which "still studies them."

"We assure that this information is completely unbiased and true," he added.

Earlier on Tuesday, Reuters reported, citing the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, that an airstrike by either Syrian or Russian air forces in the Idlib province left 58 people dead, including 11 children. The agency said that the strike was probably carried out by Syria’s government troops, who used an unknown "toxic gas."

The Russian Defense Ministry has immediately rejected the information as "fake," adding that none of its planes performed airstrikes on Khan Sheikhun and its outskirts.

Syria’s Defense Ministry blamed the attack on terrorists and their supporters and rejected any use of toxic agents in Khan Sheikhun. The country’s Foreign Ministry said the accusations against Damascus were "fabricated." Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad in an interview with the Al-Mayadeen radio said the government warned about the possibility of a similar attack several weeks ago.

'Der ez no keemikal he-ar!'

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Assad has for a long time been a puppet of the Iranian regime and has been a remote authority over Lebanon which in turn has been a safe base for Hamas and Hezbollah. Iran has no interest in getting rid of Assad. None. In fact, long before it become known, they were supplying instructors and military aid to Assad to fight the rebels. The FSA is Israeli supported and the turmoil in Syria is more than a little the product of Israel 'wishing both sides luck' and stoking shit when the fire was dying down. Why? For the same reasons Iran wants Assad to remain in power Israel would love to see Assad get a rough enema a la Gadaffi.

Russia is key ally to Iran in the UN and a backer of Iran's domestic nuclear power program. They're in cahoots and Russia's been sanction busting for Iran for a while and the trade off there is Assad is supported by Iran, Assad plays nice on the Port and everyone's happy.

Being for Assaf simply because Obama was against him... hmm.

Why on earth would Erdogan become radicalized? He's fighting ISIS who are busy planning on ground terrorism in Turkey. He wants an islamic cleric extradited to Turkey for 'questioning'. His greatest fear is Turkey going the route of Iran and becoming an Islamic Republic of Turkey (not ISIS) and him getting his well deserved just desserts.

I'm not against Obam Simply because he is Obam, I'm against Obam as his ideology is to weaken America.

Assad is not so much a puppet of Iran as a fellow traveler. Previously Assad was a free agent acting on his own interests which on occasion aligned with Irans but let's not forget hat it was only in the not so distant past when Assad, John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi where on glowing good terms. Iran and the USA have only shared a thaw while Obam was ensuring their nuclear capability.

Now for Assad Iran means survival after this he will be an Iranian puppet. We would be better served to make him the secular ruler he was with the understanding his nuclear aspirations will be met with mysteriously exploding infrastructure and support of terrorism outside his borders will cost a palace at a time.

Russia was cut off from the Mideast until Obam deserted Iraq in order to let Isis grow. Russia's problem is our problem - radical Islam. Russia's decision has been to fill the void and regain the boxers clutch that it held during the Cold War. Russia will look to regain its arms sales and stay close to an enemy in hopes strong man dictatorships will keep the lid on Islamic radicalism. See Karydzov in Chechnya for an example. I think it will work for awhile but the contagion has to be treated or it will eventually boil over and the strong man will either harness and use it for his own aspirations or he will be steam rolled and consumed.

Erdogan is radicalized. He will ensure the destruction of Europe by expediting anyone that may be a problem in his country directly on through to the EU.
 
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I'm not against Obam Simply because he is Obam, I'm against Obam as his ideology is to weaken America.

Assad is not so much a puppet of Iran as a fellow traveler. Previously Assad was a free agent acting on his own interests which on occasion aligned with Irans but let's not forget hat it was only in the not so distant past when Assad, John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi where on glowing good terms. Iran and the USA have only shared a thaw while Obam was ensuring their nuclear capability.

Now for Assad Iran means survival after this he will be an Iranian puppet. We would be better served to make him the secular ruler he was with the understanding his nuclear aspirations will be met with mysteriously exploding infrastructure and support of terrorism outside his borders will cost a palace at a time.

Russia was cut off from the Mideast until Obam deserted Iraq in order to let Isis grow. Russia's problem is our problem - radical Islam. Russia's decision has been to fill the void and regain the boxers clutch that it held during the Cold War. Russia will look to regain its arms sales and stay close to an enemy in hopes strong man dictatorships will keep the lid on Islamic radicalism. See Karydzov in Chechnya for an example. I think it will work for awhile but the contagion has to be treated or it will eventually boil over and the strong man will either harness and use it for his own aspirations or he will be steam rolled and consumed.

Erdogan is radicalized. He will ensure the destruction of Europe by expediting anyone that may be a problem in his country directly on through to the EU.

we can agree to disagree on much there re: Syria but I"m curious what makes you think Erdogan is radicalized - as in radical islamist/jihadist/caliphate. He may well be a bad actor in regards to letting shitbags pass through (although that's like getting AIDS if only to give AIDS to folks you don't like - really self-defeating).
 
That chick is country strong. Look at where she's holding that table and how she MAN handles it. That's some pretty ridiculous hand and forearm strength.
 
we can agree to disagree on much there re: Syria but I"m curious what makes you think Erdogan is radicalized - as in radical islamist/jihadist/caliphate. He may well be a bad actor in regards to letting shitbags pass through (although that's like getting AIDS if only to give AIDS to folks you don't like - really self-defeating).

The Army instituting the coup was in accordance with the Turk Constitution. Attaturk wanted a secular country and included the mechanism to keep it that way in the Constitution.

Turkey is part of NATO. A look at the EU roster seems to lack Turkeys presence. Turkey wants some EU money. The EU doesn't need any more takers with the givers already under duress.

Erdogan has to make a choice whether Turkey is of the Western world or the East. Apparently the West has decided for them. The West seems to like Kurds quite a bit. ISIS feels about Kurds the same as Turkey does.

Edogan has done much to eliminate the curbs on his power and appealed to Islam in doing it. Maybe he thinks he can harness it. He is not Karydzov. Karydzov is a psychopath. Erdogan will be consumed by the Islamists.

Globalism is great until it starts to get globalist in your own wallet.

Uncle Sucker needs to learn this real quick. I thought there was hope in November but the opposition is in an open state of sedition.

Sykes-Picot need to be dug up and hung from scaffolds as they have as much to do with this shitstorm as anyone.

I almost feel it's time to light one Nuke in the middle of the Suez to limit loss of life. Warn there is more where that came from. Tell everyone the lines in the sand are being redrawn, put ethnic/religious/lingual groups with like ethnic/religious/lingual groups, and than say now live with it or we all go down together under the mushroom cloud.
 
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Gun - what on earth do you gain by taking something I said out of context and then ranting?
Not out of context at all, the world I came from says in War, there are no rules. Rules of war ? that is laughable at best! Do You have rules you abide by in a knife or gun fight as well? The only rule that applies is to win at all costs w/o kicking everything into a Nuke state. For there will not just be one popped at all. All players know this even little fat boy in N/K. Everyone with them avoids it if at all possible.
I believe they had the chem placed there and the target was hit w/o more than a handful knowing it was there. An if they did it right they would have taken out the labor of same, with the strike. Why you ask? So you could make the world believe the story you wanted, to push. The US/Russia an a few others are Famous for this type of op. Smoke an mirrors is an has been the order of march for a long time and this is no different. Ask yourself what else is going on in the world they want to divert attn from, that's worth the lives lost in this? A good operation will drag a country/s into focusing on a single event, when the end goal is otherwise.
Edit to add, placing a tracker with the package then hitting it leaves deniability everywhere. Nothing on this rock is out of the realm of thinking men, with an agenda.
 
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From my time in the Middle East, I learned a favorite phrase that's all too appropriate here: Mesh Moshkelty - "Not my problem." The ruling families of Jordan, Saudi, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, it's their problem to deal with and I will back their plays, but certainly not us directly moving in as that only complicates matters rather than solve them.

Fuck'em, let stupid people be stupid amongst themselves, shut them out from the western world old Cuba style. I really don't give two flying fucks about them, they asked for every last bit of shit they're dealing with. Daesh? Don't care what they do there, I'd rather we sink those assets and money into our own borders than theirs. If they fuck with us though and actually make a coordinated attack on our soil, hit them back with strikes that make Tokyo '45 look like a camp fire jamboree and Rolling Thunder look like a small town air show.

And just because it makes no sense to us for Assad to use chemical weapons, and it doesn't, certainly doesn't mean his Generals wouldn't nor do I believe Assad is logical in the least. Assad has made no secret he's all about ethnic cleaning, and doesn't give a fuck what means he uses nor does he believe we will be directly going after him at all. But the only ones who know who did what are the ones who carried it out themselves. I also would not put it past any of the factions to have carried it out in a maneuver to get the US against Assad, especially since the administration recently came out with the shift in policy to no longer be focusing on his ouster. That entire region is rife with devious people and misinformation, and very little information truly is what you think it is.

Turkey? Fuck them too, they don't rate NATO membership any longer and there seriously needs to be a movement to eject them. Erdogan is absolutely using religion to further strengthen his power while thumbing his nose at their Constitution, pretty damn radicalized in my book.
 
Not out of context at all, the world I came from says in War, there are no rules. Rules of war ? that is laughable at best! Do You have rules you abide by in a knife or gun fight as well? The only rule that applies is to win at all costs w/o kicking everything into a Nuke state. For there will not just be one popped at all. All players know this even little fat boy in N/K. Everyone with them avoids it if at all possible.
I believe they had the chem placed there and the target was hit w/o more than a handful knowing it was there. An if they did it right they would have taken out the labor of same, with the strike. Why you ask? So you could make the world believe the story you wanted, to push. The US/Russia an a few others are Famous for this type of op. Smoke an mirrors is an has been the order of march for a long time and this is no different. Ask yourself what else is going on in the world they want to divert attn from, that's worth the lives lost in this? A good operation will drag a country/s into focusing on a single event, when the end goal is otherwise.
Edit to add, placing a tracker with the package then hitting it leaves deniability everywhere. Nothing on this rock is out of the realm of thinking men, with an agenda.

alright bub, you win. I'm worn out. I didn't say anything about what's fair in war. Yes, horrid, mean men, terrible. Not my point. Too much Alex Jones.

I'm starting to track with Redmanss. I'm originally from the region and it stuns me when in discussions with people who are also from there that they don't see how much of what's going on there is self-inflicted. Have outside agents played a role in destabilization? Yes - the brits, french and americans are all complicit but there's a limit and point where the locals on the ground have to own it as well. Whenever I've seen videos or pics of ISIS horrors being carried out, there's usually more than one smiling or happy face in the crowd that's obviously a local and not a fighter. Somethin's up with the mentality and culture when you're buzzed to see people from your own community getting tortured, maimed or killed.

Something that stays in my mind is a pic of a young girl, I'd say barely a teen, nearly naked, having her throat slit and they're just pawing at her and collecting her blood. How do you do that to your own?

Mesh Moshkelty
 
It's nice to think we could pull all our folks home an not worry about the rest of the world but that is not reality. The Intel, raw material, an double agents you would lose would not be worth it in the short term let alone the long term. This is one of the reasons the UN will never leave NY, to much of a Intel cake for us to give up. Yea we all would like to think it could be fortress USA but we would not last 25-30 years doing it that way. You have to stay in the game to understand how the game/players change, but hopefully we can be a step or two ahead of the other players, which would never happen just looking in. Sad it has to be like that, but that's the real world we live in, an always will.
 
Its time for western Europe to step up and take military action to protect their new citizens heritage. Fk em all. Trump needs to stay the hell away from that shithole until the EU takes action, then we can support them with transport aircraft.

Frankfurt to Damascus is 2300 miles, thats a similar distance between NYC and Brownsville TX /Mex border. Europe owns this. let them handle it. Time for Shultz and Pierre to step the fk up.
 
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Its time for western Europe to step up and take military action to WIPE OUT THE RADICAL ISLAMIST INFILTRATORS WHO HAVE INFESTED THEIR CITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS. Fk em all. Trump needs to stay the hell away from THE EURO-shithole until the EU AND THEIR COMMIE LEADERSHIP takes action AGAINST THE DESTRUCTION OF THEIR CIVILIZATION BY RADICAL ISLAMISTS, then we can support them BY RAZING ALL THE ISLAMIST COMMUNITIES AND SELF-CREATED GHETTOS WITH NAPALM AND THERMONUCLEAR WEAPONS AND SAVE EUROPE FOR THE THIRD TIME IN A CENTURY BECAUSE THEY SURE AS SH** CAN'T DO IT FOR THEMSELVES AS THEY PROVED IN 1917 AND AGAIN IN 1941 AND THROUGHOUT THE COLD WAR WHEN THEY FAILED TO MEET THEIR FUNDING QUOTAS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMMIES.

Fixed it for ya Army.... Sorry about the caps. But it was a good editing tool.

Not often that I get this reactionary. But, at this point, being a 'nice guy' is a good way to get beheaded by goat po**ers. So let's just tell it like it is.

Meh... I will probably get made fun of for being too pessimistic. For now.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 
Not sure if you watched the UN hearing today but Nikki Haley put the UN and Russia on blast over this. Strait up said that if the UN is not going to act on this that we will. She's doing a kick ass job in that position.


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I think Trump had it right last week.

If someone wants to take Assad out let it be his own people.

This is a political trap the Dems are setting.

They don't care about the PFC training today that doesn't know he will be dead for nothing in 6 months.

They just want Trump up to his neck in gore so when 2018 roles around they can win some seats.
 
well its time we crank up the draft again if they want another war, the work has to be shared , I suggest we take only college educated in the first rounds , if we get enough of them killed off then we can in good conscience ignore the college educated survivors as they die on beds in the waiting rooms of our great VA facilities across the USA as they have ignored the normal people who volunteered in the recent past. That's pretty much the only way I am on board getting any more involved in Europe's problem. One caveat though, they must live stream Boot and Basic once the snowflakes start their training.