Someone will pay that price that wants to recieve it while they are actually old enough to recieve it ???
Geissele Super Duty Rifle
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They havent even caught up with black Friday orders yet. I ordered a ddc lower and super duty 10" upper. Lower finally shipped last friday. Still havent shipped my upper
Well 1 of 3 of my orders showed up randomly, My super duty 11.5 upper, I have to say so far Im very inpressed with the finish and machining, really like the nano finish on the bolt and flash hider, bur i will be swapping it for a dead air
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Still waiting on my BF order. Nothing yet. As someone else said in a previous post, I will also no longer order anything direct from Geissele moving forward. What a mess.
They gave your shit away in their plinko game at SHOT ?
What have they done to make it any more "super duty" than anything else from a top builder?
And what does "super duty" really mean?
Should I throw all my KAC's in the garbage & replace them with "super duty's" ???
I need some help here...............................
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All marketing.. I dont see them being the new KAC for durability and longevity.
Whew.................that's a relief. I thought my KAC's & all my other stuff was going to be trash & obsoleted by the new "super duyt" stuff. 
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Tried to order a super duty online with a 30% code I got. But wouldn’t give me the option to add to cart.
Coupon expires tomorrow.
Anybody know why it wouldn’t let me select one?
Other parts were available to add to cart.
Did they suspend super duty orders until they catch up?
Coupon expires tomorrow.
Anybody know why it wouldn’t let me select one?
Other parts were available to add to cart.
Did they suspend super duty orders until they catch up?
Anybody else still waiting on BF orders? Last email said everything shipped by EOM, doesn’t look like I made it.
Have you extensively shot one or own one much less dont a destruction test? Do you know the barrel and bolt material specs?
KAC makes great guns but the playing field upped the game.
And a Fed SMU along with several other Tier1 units recently adopted it because of marketing right?
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FYI there are three tiers of the Super Duty guns. The basic one is plain milspec with a button barrel and there is URGI spec with CHF barrel and finally to the expensive MIL only version.
Info on the .mil only version or link to it? I thought the URGI's basically were considered the new M4A1 Blk 3?
AFAIK most all tier 1 SMU's run HK 416's..??
Far as HRT.. maybe my info is outta date but I thought the HRT rifles were 11.5" heavy barrel Colts with Geissele rails?
So this aint what FBI uses?
https://nsdefense.us/11-5-fbi-hrt-upper/
https://charliescustomclones.com/colt-11-5-m4-6933-fbi-hrt-socom-barrel-w-fsb/
..etc etc
..??
Cuz if not theres gotta be close to 75(+) people doing HRT "clones", that apparently aint so clone-ish after all?? I aint got no skin in the game, just wondering.
Would certainly appreciate tho if specs/details can be released.. barrel details if nothing else, especially.
https://nsdefense.us/11-5-fbi-hrt-upper/
https://charliescustomclones.com/colt-11-5-m4-6933-fbi-hrt-socom-barrel-w-fsb/
..etc etc
..??
Cuz if not theres gotta be close to 75(+) people doing HRT "clones", that apparently aint so clone-ish after all?? I aint got no skin in the game, just wondering.
Would certainly appreciate tho if specs/details can be released.. barrel details if nothing else, especially.
Sooooooooooooo............................somebody that's got one, please tell us why it's "Super" & better than all else. Please.
Geiselle usually does thing pretty well.....................but please just tell us why it's "Super" & better & what's new or unique about it.
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Geiselle usually does thing pretty well.....................but please just tell us why it's "Super" & better & what's new or unique about it.
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Time will tell. Well see how long these bolts hold up. As they "claim" 4x longer... so for now, yep, marketing until end users get 20k plus rounds on them on these short suppressed guns. Plenty of KAC bolts out there and I haven't heard of one breaking. So that really is the standard. Barrels are consumables and I put little stock in barrel coating hype in a heavy use gas guns. But maybe they have some special secret sauce. I've shot out a few mk18 barrels with well north of 10k rounds on some. Well see how long this Super Duty barrel lasts... Haven't gotten past 6500 on any of the others I own including my KAC guns.
I test and shoot many different barrels from manufactures and bought the Geissele to test out. I used to chop down many barrels for suppressor testing with different gas port sizes before that turned into a "thing". Probably 30 barrels I've chopped and or tested for suppressor use in Mid and carbine gas DI systems and been asked for input on some port sizing from a few companies.
Geissele markets their stuff well. And their triggers are great. But until people actually get some real high volume use out of them, I will hold my praises for durability and longevity as I stated. I have been using Geissele products since they were introduced before the company really took off. So I have been an early adopter in Bill's products. The original mk1 rails are still my favorite.
I like that people push the envelope with Coatings and materials. But it takes a lot of hype and marketing to make people think they are better then the rest. Until we see a lot of end users actually have 10s of thousands of rounds on these guns, I hold praises. Have to earn it. Not because someone said it on their website or promo video. I hope it's true and my 11.5 super duty performs as long as they claim it to. Time will tell.
I test and shoot many different barrels from manufactures and bought the Geissele to test out. I used to chop down many barrels for suppressor testing with different gas port sizes before that turned into a "thing". Probably 30 barrels I've chopped and or tested for suppressor use in Mid and carbine gas DI systems and been asked for input on some port sizing from a few companies.
Geissele markets their stuff well. And their triggers are great. But until people actually get some real high volume use out of them, I will hold my praises for durability and longevity as I stated. I have been using Geissele products since they were introduced before the company really took off. So I have been an early adopter in Bill's products. The original mk1 rails are still my favorite.
I like that people push the envelope with Coatings and materials. But it takes a lot of hype and marketing to make people think they are better then the rest. Until we see a lot of end users actually have 10s of thousands of rounds on these guns, I hold praises. Have to earn it. Not because someone said it on their website or promo video. I hope it's true and my 11.5 super duty performs as long as they claim it to. Time will tell.
I agree geissele does things well from their track record. The cam pin design is interesting. I'll get a pic up. Other then that it's a mil spec AR to me. Other then using a combo of materials that are different then some others. Not sure I have bought into the special Coatings yet, but well see after I get a few 1000 down the tube.
Maybe someone else can tell us why it's better from first hand experience already. I'm just not there yet.
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Have you extensively shot one or own one much less dont a destruction test? Do you know the barrel and bolt material specs?
KAC makes great guns but the playing field upped the game.
And a Fed SMU along with several other Tier1 units recently adopted it because of marketing right?
I own one. Yep I know the specs. But real word testing is the only way to find out. If the bolts go well over 20k+ rounds as they claim, well have something here.. They look to be well put together and have "impressive specs" but let's see how they perform.
I agree they are still new in the military assault rifle game and have yet to replace the 416 in several units.
Well with all this Geissele, I broke down and just order a USASOC stripped 5.56 clone from Brownells. With the 10% discount I got it for $770. I was going to build one but it was cheaper to just buy it.
thats stripped not that great of a deal its not a Colt upper either its a geissele oem square forge
Colt upper $160
DD barrel $250
gas tube $12
mk16 rail and gas block $300
$722 with a Colt upper
only advantage you get is a pinned gas block
Ahh I see, read too fast and skipped over the stripped part. Shame Brownell's won't sell a true clone. I also wonder why they went back to gov't contour on the URGI..? A mid length SOCOM would be fairly heavy but theres a lot smarter ways to distribute the weight/profile than gov't/standard M4. Regardless, its been a while but I do remember seeing tests in which gov't contour barrels consistently outshoot pencil contours, all else equal.
Im happy considering it’s priced at $979 @ Geissele
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BTW post a link to the $250 DD barrels. I want one and I can only find ones in stock for $300
URG-I Stripped, 14.5", 5.56MM
SPECS: Mil-Spec M4 Upper Receiver Assembly Geissele SMR MK16, DDC, 13.5" Daniel Defense 5.56MM 14.5" GOV CHF ML Gas *** Please Note: This is a stripped upper receiver group, and does not include a bolt carrier group, charging handle, or muzzle device. ***
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BTW post a link to the $250 DD barrels. I want one and I can only find ones in stock for $300
I ordered an 11.5 Super Duty upper the right after the black Friday sale ended. I paid a little over $900 because I didn’t know they had them for $600 on Black Friday. Oh well, you live and learn. Anyways I still haven’t received it yet. Not sure what’s going on. I know Geissele said they had their MPI tester go down, but damn going on 4 months for an upper is a bit much. I haven’t called or emailed them because I’m trying to respect the fact that they’ve been dealing with tons of orders but it’s starting to feel like I’m waiting on an NFA tax stamp to come back a year later.
Also I can’t verify widespread, but the video reviews on YT I’ve seen show that Geissele is having some QC issues. On the video reviews the rails have machine marks all over them. Hoping Geissele works out the issues and is able to ramp up their productions accordingly to this influx of demand and new gov contracts they’ve been awarded.
only time will tell. Good luck Geissele, and please send me my upper sooner than later.
Also I can’t verify widespread, but the video reviews on YT I’ve seen show that Geissele is having some QC issues. On the video reviews the rails have machine marks all over them. Hoping Geissele works out the issues and is able to ramp up their productions accordingly to this influx of demand and new gov contracts they’ve been awarded.
only time will tell. Good luck Geissele, and please send me my upper sooner than later.
Seems like it. They took on large gov contracts and had a huge response to their BF sale all at the same time. Now their production can’t keep up and they’re running their machines too thin. All the blem components that are getting shipped out are likely due to overworked mills and dull mill bits. They’re overextending. They need to fix it quick before this become synonymous with the Geissele brand. Too many other good brands out there.
thank you Sir the Pistol is officially done^^^Nice looking pile Lord
Hoping I get mine before the boogaloo comes looking for my toilet paper stash...
Geissele, if you see this, please send me my super duty upper!!! I’ve been patiently waiting since November, and I haven’t emailed you or called once, just like you requested in your “Whoops, y’all ordered too much and our machine broke” mass email. But I swear if it’s not here in one more week, you will begin to feel my email sending and phone calling wrath!!! I won’t stop until the upper is in hand and attached to my lower.
Geissele, if you see this, please send me my super duty upper!!! I’ve been patiently waiting since November, and I haven’t emailed you or called once, just like you requested in your “Whoops, y’all ordered too much and our machine broke” mass email. But I swear if it’s not here in one more week, you will begin to feel my email sending and phone calling wrath!!! I won’t stop until the upper is in hand and attached to my lower.
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Interesting thread as I've seen several Super Duty rifles popping up for sale on various forums lately. Wonder if it's guys finally receiving their BF deals and trying to double their money?....
Or they just got tired of the free loan they gave Geissele and bought a quality product in the meantime. I myself cancelled over $2k in orders from Geissele. I did get a Super Duty URGI rifle. Its cool, but Ill gladly sell it to anyone that wants it.Interesting thread as I've seen several Super Duty rifles popping up for sale on various forums lately. Wonder if it's guys finally receiving their BF deals and trying to double their money?....
