How far can you see in the pitch dark with a gen 1 night vision sight? I was looking at a atn Aries mk 390 scope. Is this an ok scope?
Night Vision Gen 1 night vison
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Re: Gen 1 night vison
Both ATN and commercial gen 1 units should be avoided for the most part. The commercial gen 1 units are not very good as a whole (not to be confused with mil-surplus gen 1 units). Without extra IR illumination, they are not significantly better than your eye when acclimated to the dark. Even with IR illumination, you can see much further than 50-75 yards with much detail. I base this on a cheap Bushnell gen 1 unit I used to have.
Instead of getting a gen 1 commercial unit. I would either get a used gen 2 monocular and use an IR laser. There are a ton of monoculars made from PVS-5 tubes. They perform very well for the money as long as you get a decent unit. Or get a gen 1 mil-surplus scope. There is currently the Ziess Orion I gen 1 military surplus scope on the market for $500. I believe these can be exported from the US (unlike gen 3 units).
Both ATN and commercial gen 1 units should be avoided for the most part. The commercial gen 1 units are not very good as a whole (not to be confused with mil-surplus gen 1 units). Without extra IR illumination, they are not significantly better than your eye when acclimated to the dark. Even with IR illumination, you can see much further than 50-75 yards with much detail. I base this on a cheap Bushnell gen 1 unit I used to have.
Instead of getting a gen 1 commercial unit. I would either get a used gen 2 monocular and use an IR laser. There are a ton of monoculars made from PVS-5 tubes. They perform very well for the money as long as you get a decent unit. Or get a gen 1 mil-surplus scope. There is currently the Ziess Orion I gen 1 military surplus scope on the market for $500. I believe these can be exported from the US (unlike gen 3 units).
Re: Gen 1 night vison
Thanks for the reply! I wont be using it very much but would like to Have one that's decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg!
Thanks for the reply! I wont be using it very much but would like to Have one that's decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg!
Re: Gen 1 night vison
You can consider researching the Pulsar N550 Digisight.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...rue#Post2809733
You can consider researching the Pulsar N550 Digisight.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...rue#Post2809733
Re: Gen 1 night vison
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 700P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the reply! I wont be using it very much but would like to Have one that's decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg! </div></div>
About the only option then is a cascade tube. They are cheap and give a good image, but are very large and heavy and have image distortion.
Gen1 is OK in bright moonlight, but lacks gain. To put it into context, Gen1 gain ( amplification ) is around 300 while Gen2 and Gen3 is around 30,000- A big difference.
Gen1 simply can't handle dark situations.
With a *very* good illuminator like the Da Torch, you can get reasonable use out to about 100yds with a typical Gen1.
Regards
David
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 700P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the reply! I wont be using it very much but would like to Have one that's decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg! </div></div>
About the only option then is a cascade tube. They are cheap and give a good image, but are very large and heavy and have image distortion.
Gen1 is OK in bright moonlight, but lacks gain. To put it into context, Gen1 gain ( amplification ) is around 300 while Gen2 and Gen3 is around 30,000- A big difference.
Gen1 simply can't handle dark situations.
With a *very* good illuminator like the Da Torch, you can get reasonable use out to about 100yds with a typical Gen1.
Regards
David
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