Sidearms & Scatterguns Glock 19 Gen 4 vs Gen 5

ArcticLight

ArcticLight

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#1
I've always hated Glocks, but after Gen 3 the reliability factor seems to be 100% now.

Well my nephew is stationed in a unit that issues Glocks (1st) and bought himself a Gen 4 so I shot it, fell in LOVE with it and want one.

Gen 5 comes out, heard somebad things, heard the rifling got cheap for cost cutting.

SO lets hear opinions here, should I get a Gen 3, 4 or 5?

This will be my primary carry gun
 
#3
I prefer the gen4 mostly due to the bigger mag release and I also like the grip texture better. I originally liked the 4 without any back strap, but have since put a back strap on my 17s. On my 19s, I don't use a back strap.

the first thing I do is cut the finger bumps off and the itty bitty thumb rest over the mag release. I could care less about the gen5, I've been making my own for a few years ;).

If I was just getting into Glock, then I personally would do gen5, but I would still have to cut off the thumb rest.
 
#4
Well after reading more from owners of Gen 5, seems Glock went into cost-cutting mode, something about the rifling not being hexgon as well as a few other things, I'm going with Gen 4, mind is made up. I'll have it boxed up under the tree this weekend.
 
#5
I'm in California so which gen is basically decided for me. We're only allowed to buy the Gen 3 new from a dealer. To get a Gen 4 or 5 I'd have to find one on the used market within California and pay a premium for it. LEO is exempt from the California Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale and that's how Gen 4 and 5's get into California.
 
#8
ArcticLight said:
Well after reading more from owners of Gen 5, seems Glock went into cost-cutting mode, something about the rifling not being hexgon as well as a few other things, I'm going with Gen 4, mind is made up. I'll have it boxed up under the tree this weekend.
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Those owners don't know what they're talking about. There is nothing wrong with a Gen4 so I wouldn't attempt to steer you away from one but having carried Glocks for 25 years (Gen2, 3, 4 & 17M) my opinion is the 17M/Gen5 is the best pistol they've made. That rifling some are claiming as a cost saving measure actually contributes to the Gen5 being more accurate than previous generations.
 
#9
What I posted before on the Gen 5

I want one! There's enough refinement that I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I wasn't in California.
List of what is new:
Slide
Frame
Finish
Trigger bar
Connector
Trigger return spring (which is now more of an assembly)
Plunger (not sure if same as g43)
Slide release
Slide lock
Slide lock spring
Trigger housing
Locking block
Locking block pin
Striker
Barrel (Marksmanship Barrel) absolutely not cost cutting
Recoil spring assembly
 
#11
My department will be ordering the Gen 5 later this spring. Another neighbouring department just got the Gen 5s. One guy (former swat and above average shooter) failed the qual his first go through. I think that was more due to shooting with temps in the single digits but I don't think I want to totally blame his failing on temperature. He wasn't overly impressed either. They also did nothing in the way of shooting for warm-up. Just "here's your new gun. Let's go qualify". Wouldn't have been the way I did things.

Most guys I talked to have had mostly positive things to say. All the research I've found has been positive. But I've carried a Gen 4 for many years so the Gen 5 will have a lot of work to do to impress me. I've not had a chance to shoot one yet.
 
#13
Glock 9mm have been dead nuts reliable since Gen 1 with the exception of the gen4 rollout that is fixed now. Gen 5 has everything people want with the exception of slide serrations. If you are in the market for a 9mm Glock, wait for a Gen 5.
 
#14
Slash0311 said:
My department will be ordering the Gen 5 later this spring. Another neighbouring department just got the Gen 5s. One guy (former swat and above average shooter) failed the qual his first go through. I think that was more due to shooting with temps in the single digits but I don't think I want to totally blame his failing on temperature. He wasn't overly impressed either. They also did nothing in the way of shooting for warm-up. Just "here's your new gun. Let's go qualify". Wouldn't have been the way I did things.

Most guys I talked to have had mostly positive things to say. All the research I've found has been positive. But I've carried a Gen 4 for many years so the Gen 5 will have a lot of work to do to impress me. I've not had a chance to shoot one yet.
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Bad shooter...Gen 1 to Gen 5 the gun is still bassically the same. The only difference is small features that if anything make the Gen 5 easier to shoot/operate.
 
#15
One thing I've noticed from my Gen 3/4/5 19's, the Gen 5 shoots ALOT softer. The stock 5 actually shoots as nice as my Gen 3 that was done by Agency with a 15lb spring and 124's with light loads.
 
#16
I prefer the Gen 4 after about 1000 rounds through it. Before that the Gen 5 trigger is better. As far as barrels go the Gen 5 actually has a small target crown and is supposed to be more accurate than the Gen 4. But when it comes down to it, it's a glock. I like the Gen 4 since the finger grooves fits my hand perfectly. I opted for the Gen 4 on all my glocks so that my muscle memory can go across all the different models.
 
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