Sidearms & Scatterguns Glocks Work. Period. End of Story.

Wait, I though the title to this thread is: Glocks work, period end of story. So apparently if you use an aftermarket mag, well not so much? I know, I know. Pistols can be mag sensitive.
Yep. Glocks work. Just dont use c****y aftermarket magazines. Glock magazines aren't all that expensive, and they do what it says on the box.
 
I’m another hater of Glocks who owns them. Love the simplicity of them and
Never worried about them running.
It’s like a shoe box with a grip. The 34
I run now is more accurate then I am
And runs flawlessly. They are really ugly pistols especially the 26’ S and 27’S. The triggers are terrible and the sights are equally horrific.

That being said can hardly wait to buy my next one.
 
It is a plinker. The Glock 44 in 22.


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Mag. Capacity

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Expecting more fun capacity. Those are rookie numbers, brah... Personally, I'd go for a .22 LR conversion kit for a full frame Glock if I want to shoot .22's. Got a barrel and mag kit for my Auto-Ordnance and it is a helluva load of fun in a small package.
 
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Mag. Capacity

Standard: 10
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Expecting more fun capacity. Those are rookie numbers, brah... Personally, I'd go for a .22 LR conversion kit for a full frame Glock if I want to shoot .22's. Got a barrel and mag kit for my Auto-Ordnance and it is a helluva load of fun in a small package.
Anyway, I'll keep shooting my rookie number 357 Mag and 45ACP.
 
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Anyway, I'll keep shooting my rookie number 357 Mag and 45ACP.


Now if Glock and Magnum Research had a hybrid... After all, Chuck Norris IS the Glock spokesman.
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I don't hate Glocks or love them. They are a tool that does exactly the job that they're designed for and no more or less. Some guys like a custom 1911 race gun or tricked out Sig but at the end of the day if you need something that goes "bang" every time the trigger is pulled and doesn't fail then a Glock will get you there for $500. They aren't "pretty" but then again they don't need to be.

My dad and I both shot IPSC back in the 90s with Glocks (he shot a 21 and I shot 17 & 24C). His 21 had in the neighborhood of 50,000 rounds through it with only the only failure being a broken extractor which was fixed by a Glock armorer for free. My 17 had no failures in ~20,000 rounds before i sold it and bought my 24C.

To the point of Glock "strength", one of our friends pulled the trigger on a squib load in his Glock 21 (primer but no powder) and didn't hear the primer pop throught his ear-pro. Pistol didn't cycle and he assumed it was a misfire. Racked the slide and fired another round without realizing there was a bullet lodged in the barrel. The end result was that it kicked a lot harder than normal and it put two holes in the target. He even shot another complete match before sending the pistol back to Glock for inspection. They replaced the barrel to be safe and sent it back.

Glock pistols "may not" be the best and they definitely aren't the prettiest or fanciest but if I'm buying a new cordless drill/driver I don't really care how awesome it looks on my toolbelt...I care about how well it drives screws and drill holes.
 
Its all subjective. Its all about the Indian, not the arrow. A proficient shooter can pick up any handgun and with the right fundamentals can make it preform. Any serious handgun shooter I know works on the fundamentals, especially grip strength. Stay behind the gun, grip it like it owes you money and focus on the front sight. As for Glocks, they do work. Have been shooting a 19, 17, 41 and 34 for the past 5 or 6 years in competitions and have yet had one fail. Shot 1911s for probably 30 years and while I love the platform, can't make the same claim.
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Nailed it.
 
I was a glock fan boy.
Not so much anymore but I’ll always have a G23 or G19.
Sold the rest.


Glocks are strictly duty guns. I have a G21 and it does a very good job at general defense and plinking, though so far it has only served as a big time plinker and burner of bulk FMJ ammo. I have owned other "strictly duty guns" in the past, including another Glock, a Hi-Point .45 ACP, and a Smith & Wesson M&P. I have not gotten any hiccups out of any of them. They are excellent investments to have and master in their operations, even if you are not a 'fan' of them. I keep em' well maintained and easily available if they are ever needed, and neither am I going to be too sore if they get beat up a little bit from the environment.

Think of 'strictly duty guns' and your classic heirloom/display/personality pieces as spears and swords. A sword is a perfect tool to disable or kill an aggressor, and in the old days you can also wear it around as a status symbol and still be welcomed at feasts, banquets, weddings, etc... A spear? Not so much. Nobody carries spears around as regular EDC personal armaments unless you are on official guard duty or a very important person's personal retainer. But they are also very effective weapons, just not 'pretty' enough to show off at social events.
 
A spear? Not so much. Nobody carries spears around as regular EDC personal armaments unless you are on official guard duty or a very important person's personal retainer. But they are also very effective weapons, just not 'pretty' enough to show off at social events.
I'd absolutely carry an oldschool Lancer's spear or winged/boar spear alongside a rifle and pistol if I was out trekking.
 
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The problem with spears is they are long and hard to carry around on your daily travel / eating / visiting folks.
Usually they stay with the horse or the guards till you need them.

One type that you can carry which is very effective is the short light sharp throwing spears with the ancient style mechanical advantage throwers that let you sling them much faster than normal.
 
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I have in the past year moved to the Glock 45 as my EDC and two Glock 34 Gen 5 models as my full sized pistols. I need the full sized grips these models offer. Removing the slide cut out makes the Glock 34 a great choice. I use one as my suppressor host with a threaded match barrel. It is also great to have an optic option with the 34s.
 
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Not that the 1911 isn't a great firearm....but....WWI called and wants its guns back.

Contrary to what many seem to believe, there are handguns that aren't Glocks or 1911s. Some even combine things like triggers that don't suck (from the 1911), with other things like magazines that hold more rounds than a revolver.
 
The closest thing I've experienced to a finely tuned 1911 trigger is in a finely tuned 1911. :) Having said that I've shot some CS's with triggers in single action that come pretty darn close to a 1911, finely tuned.

There's NO arguing the point that the 1911 SA trigger is a thing of joy to experience. I've shot 1911 with such light triggers that if you breathe on them too strongly they fire.

All well and good, fun to own, run, play with, game with, but ... but as stipulated in the OP...the Glock is, in my view, the best choice for a reliable, rugged, tough, combat weapon delivering effective combat accuracy and taking a real beating, blah, blah. Go read the OP for deets.
 
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Contrary to what many seem to believe, there are handguns that aren't Glocks or 1911s. Some even combine things like triggers that don't suck (from the 1911), with other things like magazines that hold more rounds than a revolver.

To be clear, I own many handguns including Glocks (several), Sig, Walther, CZ, a 1911 and others. If I had to pick one gun that I would always trust to go "bang" it would be a Glock.

I personally know of a Glock that put 50k down the tube over the course of 5 years of IPSC shooting with only a single broken extractor as a failure (about 35-40k round in). I fired about that same number of rounds split between my own 2 Glocks in that time-frame (17 and 24C).

I've seen one (G21) after a round was fired with a projectile stuck in the barrel (squib reload...primer but no powder) and all it did was kick hard and put 2 holes in the target. That shooter finished the match with that gun and did quite well. Replaced the barrel afterwards just to be safe.
 
Apparently, there's been some old Glocks with cracked slides. Lots of rounds through it, Point of impact drifts left, and then you realise the slide is causing it.


Documentation please....Internet "I've heard" and "apparently there've been..." don't cut it on such a highly professional and intelligent forum as this one. :)

Have you, personally, experienced this?

I've seen broken extractors and a cracked frame from time to time, but the slide itself? Nope, unless some Bubba was using his overcharged reloads, in fact, I was next to a guy in a handgun class, in Winter, snow on the ground and I heard him shoot, it made a weird noise and I looked over and he was holding part of his Glock, the rest was on the ground in pieces, frame in chunks. Slide rock solid. Frame and internals blown all over. He cut his hand in a couple of places. He had overcharged his 40SW reloads.
 
Documentation please....Internet "I've heard" and "apparently there've been..." don't cut it on such a highly professional and intelligent forum as this one. :)

Have you, personally, experienced this?

I've seen broken extractors and a cracked frame from time to time, but the slide itself? Nope, unless some Bubba was using his overcharged reloads, in fact, I was next to a guy in a handgun class, in Winter, snow on the ground and I heard him shoot, it made a weird noise and I looked over and he was holding part of his Glock, the rest was on the ground in pieces, frame in chunks. Slide rock solid. Frame and internals blown all over. He cut his hand in a couple of places. He had overcharged his 40SW reloads.

I could actually see this happening with .40S&W as they are building those higher pressure pistols on what is essentially the 9mm frame and slide. I would bet that the large frame models wouldn't even blink at some overcharged rounds. As I said previously, I have personally witnessed a G21 fired with 100% obstructed barrel with no visible damage (and continued to shoot just fine).
 
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I've seen some reload squibs as well in Glocks (and a number of other firearms too). But only the one "KA-BOOM" due to reloader error. I'm glad the dude was not hurt much, just cuts and scrapes. Kind of freaked everyone out. We enjoyed finding the bits and pieces in the snow.
 
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I have 3 glocks. The first was my mothers Gen 1 (non drop free mags and the "Pistol of the Year" sticker on the very tupperware like box). This one I don't shoot but it purrs like a kitten 30 years on (So does my Grandfathers 1915 "1911" 115 years on!). The other two were recent purchases. The girlfriend wanted "something that holds 15 rounds" and because "I can't shoot a .45. They jam on me" So I bought her a G19 Gen 5 for her and one for me as I thought I would mod it a bit. They shoot fine and I can dump a mag into the center ring of an IDPA target easily enough but I prefer my 1911s/2011's more. In the grand scheme of things it comes down to heritage. My Great Grandfather made parts for them, my Grandfather carried one in the Pacific, my Father loved a specific variant (He was a huge 10mm come Delta Elite fan) so I been around/ shooting them forever! No begruding the Glock guys I just prefer John Moses Browning's creation more! That said Taran Bulter will eat my lunch everyday and twice on Sunday with a Glock! Rob Leatham/Brian Enos/ <insert name here> will do the same with a 1911!
 
"In the grand scheme of things it comes down to heritage."

So, put it up on a shelf and admire it as a historic firearm from days gone by. When you get serious about self-defense with a modern weapon, use a Glock.

I've taken so many combat handgun classes with guys who "love the heritage" and I watch them struggle to keep up with drills requiring them to reload every 8 shots, and then watching as their "heritage" 1911s jam up, fail to function and so forth because they can't be bothered to run them wet as they require.

So much for "heritage."
 
"In the grand scheme of things it comes down to heritage."

So, put it up on a shelf and admire it as a historic firearm from days gone by. When you get serious about self-defense with a modern weapon, use a Glock.

I've taken so many combat handgun classes with guys who "love the heritage" and I watch them struggle to keep up with drills requiring them to reload every 8 shots, and then watching as their "heritage" 1911s jam up, fail to function and so forth because they can't be bothered to run them wet as they require.

So much for "heritage."
And yet... The members of the local swat team carry STI Stacatto-P's, The U.S. Marshall's Special Operations Group carry STI Stacatto-P's, The FBI HRT carry 1911's. As for reloads, I reload every 17 or 21 shots... Remember I mentions 2011s too.