GOA Sues Florida For Open Carry

Any lawful gun owner may open carry on private property with permission of the property owner, with exception to prohibited places. The State is not prohibiting you from open carrying the private business are. Would Open Carry allow me to walk into any gun shop with a loaded firearm openly displayed? What about a courthouse or police station?

That's not in Florida law though as a protection it's just something INSIDE you aren't likely to see enforcement nor report upon.

750.25 2.n states

(n) A person possessing weapons or firearms at his or her home or place of business;

This is what your gun store employee is riding on as place of business and they and pawn shops along with (I) where they have explicit inclusion which is partially redundant to n however a bit more broad to employees with the terms agent/representative.

You could have a furniture store owner make a similar choice and we rarely see that asserted since its not really a social norm.

Notice it's at "his or her home" which home or house generally falls as dwelling not 'land' and since your friends might be your employees your house is likely not their place of business so there is nothing I've found in 790 that covers that.

This is what makes the jon leggett case in Volusia interesting. He was outside on his property but not in his house/home.

Although 'primary domicile' is not referenced the term 'home' is as in 'any house you own' however in it is implied.


Besides what's covered by 725.25 open carry is restricted by the state as it is prohibited with listed exceptions for lawful use.

If you don't have a range at your property that's a legal range outside gets to be a grey area. I do believe 725.25 especially 2n requires a modification to specifically state property boundaries and allow for permission to others which it currently doesn't unless other exceptions are present such as a lawful safe range as one example.

790.06 already makes a courtroom illegal concealed or not.
 
There are a lot of battles to be fought for the 2A. As posted before our leadership is all talk. I remember Wilt Simpson pushing for legislators to be able to carry at their rallies, but not us.
That being said, we just disagree on this one. And there may be another instance we will disagree. But I guarantee we see eye to eye on 97% of them.
G'nite
Nothing stops you from carrying at a rally right now. Per the law, the only thing a lawmaker can do to have a gun-free zone is have an official meeting of the legislature per 790.06(12)(a)(8).

Any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;

If Wilton Simpson holds a campaign rally, he can't declare it a gun-free zone per law.

You can carry at the State Capitol. You just can't carry in the meeting room when the legislature calls a meeting a quorum.

I carry at the Capitol. Heck, I carry in lawmakers' and the governor's offices.
 
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That's not in Florida law though as a protection it's just something INSIDE you aren't likely to see enforcement nor report upon.

750.25 2.n states

(n) A person possessing weapons or firearms at his or her home or place of business;

This is what your gun store employee is riding on as place of business and they and pawn shops along with (I) where they have explicit inclusion which is partially redundant to n however a bit more broad to employees with the terms agent/representative.

You could have a furniture store owner make a similar choice and we rarely see that asserted since its not really a social norm.

Notice it's at "his or her home" which home or house generally falls as dwelling not 'land' and since your friends might be your employees your house is likely not their place of business so there is nothing I've found in 790 that covers that.

This is what makes the jon leggett case in Volusia interesting. He was outside on his property but not in his house/home.

Although 'primary domicile' is not referenced the term 'home' is as in 'any house you own' however in it is implied.


Besides what's covered by 725.25 open carry is restricted by the state as it is prohibited with listed exceptions for lawful use.

If you don't have a range at your property that's a legal range outside gets to be a grey area. I do believe 725.25 especially 2n requires a modification to specifically state property boundaries and allow for permission to others which it currently doesn't unless other exceptions are present such as a lawful safe range as one example.

790.06 already makes a courtroom illegal concealed or not.
Correct, and 790.25(2)( n ) makes it to where one can carry in their home or place of business. It doesn't mention "property" at all.

A person possessing weapons or firearms at his or her home or place of business;

That is one of the issues we're raising with this lawsuit.
 
Only FL, NY, IL, and CA ban open carry. What makes Florida different than Alabama, Texas, Georgia, Montana, Oregon, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc? You even have Democrat controlled states that have legalized open carry.

FL. would have been very last of my guessing for NOT open carry . A lot of people would never believe OR. is open carry, but here in OR. we actually have a 2nd amendment written in our states constitution that gives a foundation to fight to keep.
keep up good work.
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Honest question: if a person can legally own a pistol/revolver, (they are not a prohibited person), why open carry instead of getting your concealed carry permit and carry concealed? In Las Vegas, I see a lot of open carriers. It's shameful how "situationally" unaware most open carriers are. As mentioned above, wrong holster for the firearm, etc. I support open carry, concealed carry, constitutional carry. How people carry is up to them. I want to understand why open carry is necessitated if a person can get a CCW. If open carrying was a deterrent to someone to not fuck with you, there would be less instances of open carriers getting their firearms easily taken from them. I think a lot has to do with how the person open carrying conducts themselves. As the photo posted above reflects, I wouldn't question a person dressed sharply open carrying, but I would be weary of a tacticool fool walking around with an AR or AK at the low ready "exercising their rights." NOT saying they can't or shouldn't exercise their rights, saying we live in a world with stereotypes all over the place.

Since I first owned a pistol, I've had my CCW. What does open carry afford a person that concealed carry doesn't? I carry concealed because I don't want others to know that I am carrying. Not interested in Fudds, yahoos, wannabes, etc., striking up conversation, etc. How non-supporters of the 2A react is not something I want to correct or engage in. Their problem is their problem, not mine. If things go sideways somewhere, I'd rather not be on the radar from the start.

Thanks in advance, hopefully I didn't get anyone's hackles up. :)
Have had my Texas concealed carry since early '08 right after I was eligible as of Dec of '07. Conceal carry mostly but have open carried a few times.

Do I carry a gun in a holster it wasn't designed for? Yeah for one gun. Because only one company really makes holsters specifically for it and didn't want to order one. Blackhawk serpa (I know, I'm careful about finger placement) m&p holster for my sti Gp6 (grandpower k100). Took it to a cop store in Salt Lake and asked if I could find a holster that it fit in. It fits and locks. Most of the time these days I carry my m&p9c OWB in a Safariland ALS holster. Sometimes with my shirt behind but mostly with it covering. Carhartt t shirt and 5.11 stryke pants. Having shirt riding protection is nice. I'm in a constitutional carry state but it hasn't alway been one. I still have my Texas and I also have my Utah ccw. Just because you decide to open carry doesn't mean you have to lose your observation skills.
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Craziest thing is how oblivious others can be when they think you are carrying. There have been times when I'm carrying either IWB in a comptac minotaur or own and people thought I was carrying on the opposite side. I'm left handed. My gun is on left hip. People assumed I was carrying on my right. My right side has my phone in a holster and I used to carry a flashlight in a holder. Have even been asked if the flashlight was a lightsaber. When it's 900 lumens, and has strobe capabilities, the answer is yes.

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Last place I bought from was this place.

If you can carry in a way eating a sandwich or stuff like that so other people see you just going about your business, how is that a bad thing? I've even had people ask me if I was a cop. Nope. Just acted like a civilized person in a polite society. Pick places where it seems ok. Follow instructions if somebody asks you to leave. Still act like a normal person. Don't be an idiot and you will be fine.
 
Any lawful gun owner may open carry on private property with permission of the property owner, with exception to prohibited places. The State is not prohibiting you from open carrying the private business are. Would Open Carry allow me to walk into any gun shop with a loaded firearm openly displayed? What about a courthouse or police station?
Lots of gunstores (other than big box stores) around here have signs something like this. I like when other businesses have them as well.
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...A lot of people would never believe OR. is open carry, but here in OR. we actually have a 2nd amendment written in our states constitution that gives a foundation to fight to keep.
keep up good work.
Oregon both is & Isn't open carry friendly. Cities & Towns can & do have ordinances prohibiting such, &/ OR whackadoodle rules (unloaded handgun/no magazine...!).

The only exclusion to those city & town ordinances are CHL holders.
 
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I have heard all of the bullshit arguments several times as different states have brought up constitutional carry laws. It's going to be like the OK Corral, cops are going to be gunned down in the streets, crime is going to go through the roof yada yada yada...
It's all bullshit thrown out there because fear sells. Just look at the justifications certain people are posting here on a gun forum.... Citizens are going to have cannons and F16'S and and and.
The 2A was about the citizens being able to quell the tyrannical government the founding fathers knew that it could/would become.
 
Hope you all win the lawsuit!

We live in Oregon, where Open carry is "sort of legal". Some cities & towns have ordinances against OC, unless the individual has a concealed hand gun license.

Constitutional carry (open or concealed) should be legal in every state, because no State or municipality should be able to over rule the Constitution.

Currently no normy visiting Oregon can carry unrestricted (open or concealed), because Oregon doesn't recognize any other states conceal. Folks CAN apply for MAY issue out of state conceal permit, where's in state residents it is SHALL issue.

Still, none of such should exist in any state. Carry by anyone from anywhere should be legal nationwide. Any way they wish.


So, let me get this straight.

In some areas, if you want to open carry, you must have a concealed carry license...

Sounds governmentally logical. 🙄
 
The 2A was about the citizens being able to quell the tyrannical government the founding fathers knew that it could/would become.


Notice up above all of the places where carrying, concealed or otherwise, is prohibited.

Pretty much any gov, state or city controlled building.


Those rules are to protect gov from their subjects.
 
FL. would have been very last of my guessing for NOT open carry . A lot of people would never believe OR. is open carry, but here in OR. we actually have a 2nd amendment written in our states constitution that gives a foundation to fight to keep.
keep up good work.
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FL's state constitution was rewritten by ex-Confederate Democrats in 1885 and changed our right to keep and bear arms. The language that has existed since then is hogwash. It says you have the right to keep and bear arms and then says the legislature has the right to regulate the method of carry. It was done to specifically disarm free slaves.
 
Notice up above all of the places where carrying, concealed or otherwise, is prohibited.

Pretty much any gov, state or city controlled building.


Those rules are to protect gov from their subjects.
Always has been.... the history of gun control has been to target certain groups of people that pose a threat to those in power. In Florida's history, it was originally about disarming freed slaves since those people out numbered the White population originally.
 
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Open Carry does not and has not challenged the NFA in any state.

additionally NFA registered machineguns will still remain a poor choice due to FL 790.16 if a public place is involved as their is no self defense provision for one. Falling back under 790.25.2(i) and n we did have the 'Harry Beckworth' incident, where to my knowledge 790.16 it wasnt used likely due to both location and distance from road, privateness of property and the extenuating circumstances experienced as an edge case. It was also like the early 1990s which is a while ago now.

Those inclined for open are likely already using OWB and the 'idpa guy' vest when weather allows with whatever 'size' pistol they want then only diff realized they aren't changing it for summer besides the single stack folks that will possible endure sweating all over a 44oz 1911 iwb anyway. The concept of 'escalation of firepower' has not materialized historically. I suppose parade behavior as witnessed in some states in the last few years are notable exceptions but again where edge cases and didn't not embody regular or typical commonplace behavior by citizens.

We should at the least have a modification to 725.252 n to increase the rights upon private property and provide proper definitition can enjoy in both n and i. Open carry is one way to address that that's 'simple and clear'.

The Leggett case I would like more details about since this is an oppurtunity to set precedence, the guy was on his own yard/property as i understand and I imagine the possibility it was some suburban environment in plain view of others where n did not apply due to the wording. Might be complicated if it wasnt in a holster details i dont know. I hope it was. To me this is the absolute most important part of this complaint and an example of rights infringed beyond the additional concepts of public carryage in open view however granting them previously would have provided him protection and continues to be a solution method granted in many other states by simple allowance.

Private property and businesses will still continue to shape social norms and should continue to enjoy those rights (preferably expanded). Just like the judge reference in the post above the same provision exists on all private property (concealed at least currently). That gun store example is basciallty the same condition an so is your 'home' or business where you can tell someone to leave. That should stay we can pick our friends and vote where to shop with our feet and wallets.
 
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LOL, I know him and he's referred to in our court complaint. I ain't giving him a hard time at all.

And he only is able to open carry while fishing. Not as a everyday citizen.

Have you actually read the complaint or declaration? I doubt it.
If he has a rod with him, he’s legal.
 
So, let me get this straight.

In some areas, if you want to open carry, you must have a concealed carry license...

Sounds governmentally logical. 🙄

Yup. Some you don't need a CHL, however handgun can't be loaded. DERRRP....

Mostly up North in the whackadoodle blue population areas.

Oregon is primarily a red rural state (outside of the whackadoo), truly wish we had a system similar to electoral college for state laws. Sadly we don't...

Most of the state open carry is no problem, no chl, no one bats an eye.
 
When I lived in Idaho, (mid and late 90s) we open carried in the field all the time.
I never even bothered to check if it was legal.
Didn't care. I was more concerned about bears and cats than I was the man in green pants.
 
Yes, but one must actively be going to, doing, or coming from such an event. Having a rod doesn't give you leeway to actually have a normal day.
I'm sure you're aware also ,that there have been few " normal days" for the Armedfisherman as he IS " going to, doing or coming from " fishing . While he is abiding by the law in his activities , the PO PO give him a hard time fucking with him constantly. There's been very few videos, that I've seen , where he hasn't been fucked with.
I've seen enough videos from him, Rougenation , Rightscrispy,and James madison to known that I'll not be traveling to Fl. just because it is ,in my opinion, full of jbt.

My part of Dixie has over it's fair share of jbt also .......hence the homebody I am nowadays..... ain't got time nor the patients for their bullshit .......rant over.

PS open carry legal here....don't see it much,but fully support it.

Edit: For those that don't know, the other three named channels are " open camera " totters in public which to the jbt is some kind of "crime" or "suspicious activity " that warrants ,wait for it..........PO PO crack......................"I.D. you got any ? , I need to see it, bla bla bla"

2nd rant over..........................for the time being.
 
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Yup. Some you don't need a CHL, however handgun can't be loaded. DERRRP....

Mostly up North in the whackadoodle blue population areas.

Oregon is primarily a red rural state (outside of the whackadoo), truly wish we had a system similar to electoral college for state laws. Sadly we don't...

Most of the state open carry is no problem, no chl, no one bats an eye.
I’m just a couple hours of PDX having breakfast. Two open carrys in the restaurant right now. God knows how many concealed. I pity the fool that try’s anything in here!
 
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I'm sure you're aware also ,that there have been few " normal days" for the Armedfisherman as he IS " going to, doing or coming from " fishing . While he is abiding by the law in his activities , the PO PO give him a hard time fucking with him constantly. There's been very few videos, that I've seen , where he hasn't been fucked with.
I've seen enough videos from him, Rougenation , Rightscrispy,and James madison to known that I'll not be traveling to Fl. just because it is ,in my opinion, full of jbt.

My part of Dixie has over it's fair share of jbt also .......hence the homebody I am nowadays..... ain't got time nor the patients for their bullshit .......rant over.

PS open carry legal here....don't see it much,but fully support it.

Edit: For those that don't know, the other three named channels are " open camera " totters in public which to the jbt is some kind of "crime" or "suspicious activity " that warrants ,wait for it..........PO PO crack......................"I.D. you got any ? , I need to see it, bla bla bla"

2nd rant over..........................for the time being.
Hence why we're suing FL. People shouldn't be harassed by LE.
 
Yes, but one must actively be going to, doing, or coming from such an event. Having a rod doesn't give you leeway to actually have a normal day.

Nowhere in 790 does it state one must be going (Directly) to/from fishing, hunting or camping.

790 does not prohibit stopping for fuel, snacks or whatever else, to include eating at a restaurant.



Common sense, tells us it would be prudent to leave the pistol (and probably the holster) in your vehicle while you stock up on Gatorade, snickers bars, or ordering that Cuban sandwich and a Cafe con Leche.


Have I gone into the 7-11 with a revolver on my hip. Probably. Maybe. Maybe not.
I won't go into Kenny's Liquors like that, even though Bobby is okay with it.

My personal feeling is we should be able to carry wherever we want. Concealed or otherwise.
The issue is people gotta fuck it up for other people. Acting aggressive, angry or intimidating is where the line is drawn.
 
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Nowhere in 790 does it state one must be going (Directly) to/from fishing, hunting or camping.

790 does not prohibit stopping for fuel, snacks or whatever else, to include eating at a restaurant.



Common sense, tells us it would be prudent to leave the pistol (and probably the holster) in your vehicle while you stock up on Gatorade, snickers bars, or ordering that Cuban sandwich and a Cafe con Leche.


Have I gone into the 7-11 with a revolver on my hip. Probably. Maybe. Maybe not.
I won't go into Kenny's Liquors like that, even though Bobby is okay with it.

My personal feeling is we should be able to carry wherever we want. Concealed or otherwise.
The issue is people gotta fuck it up for other people. Acting aggressive, angry or intimidating is where the line is drawn.
A few State Attorneys' Offices think otherwise due to the wording.

(h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;
 
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A few State Attorneys' Offices think otherwise due to the wording.

(h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;

Where in that screen shot does it say "directly or without stoppage"?
It doesn't.
It never has.

Hell, I could be driving back from a Montana elk hunt and I would be legal, as the law is written.



They can think what they want. Have them prove they have never stopped enroute to or from an activity.

So much of this is because people are not well versed in laws that affect them.
Also DAs with an axe to grind should be in jail, not in office.


You and I live in the same state, but because of your location, the laws are used/enforced in a completely different way.
That's a shame.
 
Where in that screen shot does it say "directly or without stoppage"?
It doesn't.
It never has.

Hell, I could be driving back from a Montana elk hunt and I would be legal, as the law is written.



They can think what they want. Have them prove they have never stopped enroute to or from an activity.

So much of this is because people are not well versed in laws that affect them.
Also DAs with an axe to grind should be in jail, not in office.


You and I live in the same state, but because of your location, the laws are used/enforced in a completely different way.
That's a shame.
Hence why we're suing. It puts an end to all the bull.
 
I have heard all of the bullshit arguments several times as different states have brought up constitutional carry laws. It's going to be like the OK Corral, cops are going to be gunned down in the streets, crime is going to go through the roof yada yada yada...
It's all bullshit thrown out there because fear sells. Just look at the justifications certain people are posting here on a gun forum.... Citizens are going to have cannons and F16'S and and and.
The 2A was about the citizens being able to quell the tyrannical government the founding fathers knew that it could/would become.
truth. wonder if open carry would add to the sky high murder rates in detroit,chicago etc? might lower it. there are sure to be SOME upstanding people of color in those hell holes. they provide many of the victims. as per their rulers,don't have permission or means to protect themselves and families. frankly,if the concept of MAD is understood,i don't give a shit if the nation of islam has tack nucs,as long as the AB has them. blm and antifa can have whatever they want as long as GOA,NRA,MAGA members have same. it's going to get ugly.
 
Nowhere in 790 does it state one must be going (Directly) to/from fishing, hunting or camping.
I saw the video where the cops rung that guy up because they said you can't legally fish from the bridge... He was walking, carrying his rods and said he was looking for a spot about to go to the lower section... Cops didn't care.

Common sense, tells us it would be prudent to leave the pistol (and probably the holster) in your vehicle while you stock up on Gatorade, snickers bars, or ordering that Cuban sandwich and a Cafe con Leche.
Common sense also says that's the most likely spot you will get robbed by somebody with a gun.
 
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I saw the video where the cops rung that guy up because they said you can't legally fish from the bridge... He was walking, carrying his rods and said he was looking for a spot about to go to the lower section... Cops didn't care.


Common sense also says that's the most likely spot you will get robbed by somebody with a gun.

No line in the water = not fishing. I'd sue them over it.
With that said, do we know for sure he wasn't observed fishing from the bridge before the video?
Nope.




We had an issue in downtown Tampa regarding fishing in an area with signs stating private property, no entry, no fishing.

They did not own the rights to the water, nor the area under and within the docks. We looked up ownership, rights and rules regarding this and other properties nearby. Then, we printed all of it out and put it in a binder.
The property manager and a few residents tried to kick us out, citing if we didn't leave, they would call Tampa PD and have us arrested.
We told them we'd gladly wait and go go ahead.
About 15 minutes later a chubby officer came over to tell us to leave.
We told him we were in fact, not trespassing and had property lines and easements to prove it. We showed him our evidence and at that point he defaulted to it was an FWC issue, not Tampa PD. He said he was going to call FWC and get someone over. I referred him to the last page in the binder, which had three local FWC officers cell numbers. Told him he could pick one, but advised him which one was on duty.
He called the FWC officer and was told this was an ongoing issue with the condominium and as long as we did not step foot on the docks, that we were within our rights to fish there. TPD handed the binder back and said have a good day.
Then he turned around and said he wished all of his interactions were as simple as this, and that it was nice working with people that are informed.



Re: 7-11.
That's why you always carry. If you insist on open carrying, you will probably get push back.
It surely doesn't hurt to go CC on the drive to and from your fishing spot, even though open is legal.
 
The most egregious abrogations of our Second Amendment rights have occurred a second after any ground has been ceded. Whether it’s under the guise of someone’s “common sense” or right after a tragedy where people haven’t even mourned their dead, it’s become to sine qua non of the anti Second Amendment crowd and feeble minded, capricious so-called “supporters”.

You might think that anyone with a firing synapse would have figured out by now this is the game and rules that have been set. But alas, there it is. “If we only show we’re reasonable”, “if we only give a little”, “if only…”. Meanwhile we continue to take it in the neck from corrupt politicians and judges who post-Bruen, have made some of the most astounding judicial affronts and blatantly unconstitutional attacks on the Second Amendment in the history of our democratic republic.

I may have my reservations about open carry and its practicality in many situations. But I sure as hell would never cede someone’s ability to do so in the name of common sense or any other ersatz excuse.
 
The most egregious abrogations of our Second Amendment rights have occurred a second after any ground has been ceded. Whether it’s under the guise of someone’s “common sense” or right after a tragedy where people haven’t even mourned their dead, it’s become to sine qua non of the anti Second Amendment crowd and feeble minded, capricious so-called “supporters”.

You might think that anyone with a firing synapse would have figured out by now this is the game and rules that have been set. But alas, there it is. “If we only show we’re reasonable”, “if we only give a little”, “if only…”. Meanwhile we continue to take it in the neck from corrupt politicians and judges who post-Bruen, have made some of the most astounding judicial affronts and blatantly unconstitutional attacks on the Second Amendment in the history of our democratic republic.

I may have my reservations about open carry and its practicality in many situations. But I sure as hell would never cede someone’s ability to do so in the name of common sense or any other ersatz excuse.
Little wordy but still good. It did bring this video to mind.
 
The most egregious abrogations of our Second Amendment rights have occurred a second after any ground has been ceded. Whether it’s under the guise of someone’s “common sense” or right after a tragedy where people haven’t even mourned their dead, it’s become to sine qua non of the anti Second Amendment crowd and feeble minded, capricious so-called “supporters”.

You might think that anyone with a firing synapse would have figured out by now this is the game and rules that have been set. But alas, there it is. “If we only show we’re reasonable”, “if we only give a little”, “if only…”. Meanwhile we continue to take it in the neck from corrupt politicians and judges who post-Bruen, have made some of the most astounding judicial affronts and blatantly unconstitutional attacks on the Second Amendment in the history of our democratic republic.

I may have my reservations about open carry and its practicality in many situations. But I sure as hell would never cede someone’s ability to do so in the name of common sense or any other ersatz excuse.
Yup, people who are afraid of scaring gun grabbers are worthless. They're like those during the Civil Rights Movement who were afraid of pissing of the Jim Crow Bigots.

"Oh no, we shouldn't protest the segregation and injustices because we might piss off the Jim Crow living Bigots who want me dead just for breathing!"
 
Again, you can argue that with the State Attorneys' Offices. Some think differently and love jamming people up. That is one of the reasons why we're suing.
It's not about the law or the constitution. Lawfare. It's about the process of a citizen having to spend the time and money to fight for his rights. It scares the shit out of the sheep who just decide to follow for the ease of following. The system should be set up to penalize the shit stain lawyers that do this shit.
The Jan 6 prosecutions are all about keeping the populace in fear of protesting the next bullshit election in November.
 
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I support the repeal of this ban also as a permit holder from the inception in Fl. Florida native if that means anything. Having permitless carry but a ban on open carry is ridiculous on it's face. While I may not open carry myself there is zero reason why you are restricted if you are a lawful gun owner, zero. Go GOA!!! and isn't it shameful the commie blue states that prohibit OC and we are the only hard red state that forbids it?? Wow.......
 
FL. would have been very last of my guessing for NOT open carry . A lot of people would never believe OR. is open carry, but here in OR. we actually have a 2nd amendment written in our states constitution that gives a foundation to fight to keep.
keep up good work.
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Oregon both is & Isn't open carry friendly. Cities & Towns can & do have ordinances prohibiting such, &/ OR whackadoodle rules (unloaded handgun/no magazine...!).

The only exclusion to those city & town ordinances are CHL holders.

I grew up in Oregon, and I still visit whenever I can.

I carry openly. Police see me and ignore.

I did not know so many cities had banned carry. I carry in Newport without realizing I was breaking the law. I stay away from Portland and the suburbs, not due to gun laws, but just due to it being Portland and me having no interest in visiting. I typically fly into Eugene and then drive over to the coast.


Almost everything on the list is Salem or Portland and Portland suburbs.
 
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Being a Florida resident I cannot support open carry without a permit or license, concealed constitutional carry is a better option in my opinion. First off why would I want to let everyone in public know I’m armed with a handgun? Secondly after living in Nashville and seeing how foolishly people open carry it is an embarrassment to the entire 2A community, a problem that was regularly occurring, open carry person being disarmed by people snatching up the weapon, and it wasn’t limited to young hood-rats.

This guy from GOA talks a good game and I get the argument he brings forward, but seeing someone with a cheap holster being used to carry a pistol it wasn’t made for, who probably only has minimal ability with no thought out preplan is a disaster in the making. You want open carry, proficiency and a security holster are a must.
So 120lb female cops shouldnt carry either right?
 
I'm simply amazed how some are against their fellow Americans exercising their inalienable enumerated rights just because of their own personal feelings on the subject at hand.

The Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves if they read some of the posts here. They'd shake their heads and wonder "seriously bro? You're in favor of keeping something illegal just because you personally don't like it? What are you, a Tory? Last we checked, London is that way. Maybe living under the Crown is more your thing where you're a subject and not a citizen."