Gunsmithing Gun just went off!!!! (Please Read)

[Lucks]

I was shooting a Remington 700 yesterday and had the gun on safety. When I moved the safety lever from safe to fire the gun went off! The rifle has a Remington trigger in it that the previous owner did a trigger job on himself. The trigger is awesome, but very, very light. I assume the problem is with the trigger, and I now plan to order another trigger for the gun. My question is, is there any other part of the gun that could cause this besides the trigger or safety assembly? I don't have a very good understanding of how the rifles "anatomy" works in regards to the safety...so is there something else I should check or have checked? Thanks for the help.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lucks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The rifle has a Remington trigger in it that the previous owner <span style="font-weight: bold">did a trigger job on himself</span>. </div></div>

1. Never trust the safety.
2. Never trust amateur trigger jobs.

Take it to a smith who knows Remingtons and have him set the trigger. It IS easy to do at home, but it sounds like the previous owner had no idea what he was doing. More than likely there is not enough sear engagement. The issue doesn't really have anything to do with the safety. It has to do with how the trigger was adjusted.

 

[Jkob60]

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Take it to a smith and have him set it up correctly.

 

[RussW1911]

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This isn't unheard of when it comes to Remingtons. Never trust teh safety is "standard issue" on them. A lot of hunters have been suprised by this exact same thing. It has been an issue with the system for a long time.

 

[McCrazy]

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+1 to what Lone Wolf and JK said. Most likely the previous owner just adjusted the trigger by messing with the external adjusting screws and there have been no permanent changes done. Replacing the trigger should not be necessary.

You could fix it yourself but since you seem to be fairly inexperienced I would say to take it to a gunsmith and have him reset the trigger. You are talking about $50 or less to make your rifle function safely and properly; well worth it.

 

[deadly0311]

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Yeah it was my trigger before, i have done quite a few trigger jobs on the Rem 700 triggers. Before this gun left my hands to go to the owner, the bolt was worked amazingly hard, and i also slammed the buttpad down into the ground to try and get it to fire. Never happened, the trigger is light, but i never experienced a problem like this. I do know my way around the remington trigger, it could be that one of the adjustment screws backed out though.

 

[Cigarcop]

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I would have to agree prob not enough sear engagement.

 

[armada]

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I had this problem once before on one of my remingtons. The trigger was adjusted by a gunsmith and worked fine for many many years. I called him up and told him the situation and asked me what type of lube I used. I told him Tri Flow. He told me not to use medium to heavy lube, only very light lubes, WD-40 or lighter fluid, preferably none. So i was advised to spray it with break parts cleaner then lube it with wd40. Never had the problem again.

I'm not saying this is your problem, just an experience I had. Good luck.

 

[rootsy]

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sear engagement decreases as you turn the screw in... pull weight decreases as you turn that screw out... Often times the pull weight in adjusted so low that there is not enough spring pressure to return the sear consistently. Which in turn can result in erratic pull weight and at worst erratic firing pin drop. This is exaggerated when the sear engagement is minimalized to reduce creep and further reduce pull weight due to friction between the sear surfaces.

You can only get so much out of most factory Remington triggers. It takes a certain amount of spring force to return the sear consistently and that translates into a specific pull weight on the trigger... It is all in the geometry and surface finish.

 

[Downzero]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cigarcop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would have to agree prob not enough sear engagement. </div></div>

I love how everyone chimes in with this like they have any idea without messing with it. If the sear hasn't been stoned, this shouldn't be a problem.

I'm willing to bet there is a spring tension issue.

 

[deadly0311]

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its a spring tension problem, could very well be a worn out spring. There was no stoning or permanent mods done to the trigger

 

[sobrbiker883]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cigarcop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would have to agree prob not enough sear engagement. </div></div>

I love how everyone chimes in with this like they have any idea without messing with it. If the sear hasn't been stoned, this shouldn't be a problem.

I'm willing to bet there is a spring tension issue. </div></div>

That'd be my bet. As deadly says there was no angry beaver stuff happening to the engagement surfaces, it probably just needs readjustment and maybe springs.

 

[BLAWTON]

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Best way to get the weight of pull down is to put a lighter spring in them instead of backing the screw out a long ways. This will affect the ammount of sear engaugement or more so the ammount of slop you get in the pull. If you use a lighter spring then it doesnt need moved so far. I do agree with armada this sounds like a dirty trigger problem. Probly best to get it to someone who can show you what the problem is or at least fix it. First thing i would do is clean it with some good ole ronsonol...

 

[BIGGLEE0351]

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Just take it and have the problem fixed by a competent gunsmith.

 

[GasLight]

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Funny thing is how this issue keeps coming up on old style factory remington triggers. And then it is always blamed on an adjustment or dirt issue. Why aren't we seeing this issue on dirty timney, rifle basix, jard, jewell (when set at 2.5+ pounds), and other after market triggers? The main reason is the design of the original 700 (same as 722 and 721) triggers. Remington has/had a percentage of these triggers fail in the way mentioned above straight off the production line at factory settings. Even in a perfectly produced trigger there is the possibility of a malfunction. Do yourself and potentially your loved ones a favor and replace the original trigger with an aftermarket one. I have a dirty Timney which was adjusted by an amature and it doesn't fail... get a safe trigger. The best answer for the money is to replace the internals on that trigger with a JARD Inc. upgrade kit, and don't look back.

I am sure there are those who will discount what I am saying, but don't take my word for it, do some research you will see this isn't an isolated issue and it goes beyond being an adjustment/dirty issue.

Dave

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny thing is how this issue keeps coming up on old style factory remington triggers. And then it is always blamed on an adjustment or dirt issue. Why aren't we seeing this issue on dirty timney, rifle basix, jard, jewell (when set at 2.5+ pounds), and other after market triggers?</div></div>

Without any numbers I would wager that the reason you don't hear about it as much on the aftermarket triggers is that the guys who plunk the cash down for them are of a different group. I would say that if you drop more than a C-note on a trigger you are going to take the extra time to make sure it's setup right. On the other hand, if you get Uncle Jo's ten year old deer rifle passed down to you and you have a hard time buying ammo, then you are much more likely to crank on "them there screws" to see if you can get a "target trigger". Then marvel at your masterpiece until it goes south. Then of course it's always the trigger's fault.

I am far from a Remington guru, but I have been using properly adjusted Remington factory triggers for all of my adult life in much more punishing environments than most privately owned rifles ever see. I have yet to have one fail on me. The only problem I have ever had was my current trigger went up 2 lbs after being exposed to two weeks of shooting in the rain. A quick blast with some brake cleaner and a dap of nail polish back on each screw put it exactly back where I set it.

Now remember my trigger (and all the Remmy triggers I have used) are set as field triggers. 2 lbs is about as low as I want to go. I use a little more engagement and a hair of overtravel so that dirt has somewhere to go. My current trigger is at 2.5lbs.

deadly0311....this is no dig at you. I don't know what your competence level is and I have no idea if there was a mechanical issue with the trigger. I just have a hard time blaming the mechanism when there is human intervention involved.

 

[deadly0311]

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didnt take it that way. I just wanted to throw it out there that i had adjusted these triggers before and never had a problem with any of them. My guess like i said above is it is probably a worn out spring. Ive never had a remington trigger fail me either, only trigger problems ive ever had was with the M40A3 trigger, it crept up quite a bit on us, but some gun scrubber and it was good to go again.

 

[The Mechanic]

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+1 LoneWolfUSMC on the nail polish. Works like a charm on screws. Keeps them where they are supposed to be and is not to difficult to brake free unlike loctite.

 

[GasLight]

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LoneWolf, I am sure there are triggers out there that haven't had a malfunction, but the design issue is there, and it isn't up to me to prove this to you. There is plenty of information available on it. Especially in this day and age of the information highway. If you do some searching you will find that whenever this issue comes up, it is almost exclusively with someone running the original Remington trigger system. You will also notice that there is hords of people who respond that have had the same issue. Any time I talk to people about this issue, it seems to me (without any solid numbers to back it up), that if someone running remingtons hasn't personally had this happen, they know of someone who has. Holes in floorboards, window, close calls, scares, and much worse. This shit is real, and it revolves around a single fire control design. This issue isn't exclusive to the civilian market either. Ever wonder why departments are now training their folks to not use the safety? Bolt up or open.. that is almost exclusively the policy now. Why is that??? You ever wonder who started the whole "you can't trust a safety, it is a mechanical device" marketing campaign??? You don't need to look to me for answers, because they are out there for those that care to look for them.

For what it is worth, I am glad you have never had an issue, and I am glad that many people running the triggers haven't. I just wish we didn't use that as the basis for our argument that there is not a potential problem, because it just covers up the issue. I am sure not every corvair blew up... but it didn't make them safe. I am sure not everyone running an SUV with firestone tires rolled and killed everyone inside... but enough did that it caused a massive recall of those tires.

The solution is relatively cheap, especially if you compare it to the cost of a window, or a floorboard. It is a no-brainer when you start thinking about what ifs... what if this trigger had potential to go off when I didn't want it to? where will it be pointed when it does? Am I absolutely certain that I ALWAYS have it pointed in a safe direction??? What if the solution only cost me $65, what if I could drop in something that cost me $150? What if I was unloading it and I wasn't paying attention that 1 time. What if the bullet hits something hard and ricochets?

At the end of the day, we all have a responsibility to ourselves and each other to try and be as safe as we can. I am just trying to raise some questions, so hopefully I have fulfilled my obligation to myself and to my brothers...

Dave

 

[acehigh]

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Seems to me I remember a safety/trigger Rem. 700 issue 5-7 years ago being discussed on Sniper Country. If memory serves me correctly it was a factory/new issue and had shown up in some used weapons also. The rifles would fire when dropped on the buttpad or when the safety was returned to the fire position. Maybe someone else will remember it also. Where's Kevin Mussack? He was around back then. I could be mistaken about part of this but I definitely remember Rem. 700 trigger/safety/ad's or unintentional discharges
John

 

[300WSM]

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sear screw needs to be turned counter clockwise about 1/4 of a turn.

 

[300WSM]

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then put something on it like nail polish to keep it from moving.

I might also suggest trying a wolff trigger spring.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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Setting the safety, pulling the trigger, then releasing the safety is a standard, basic safety check that must be performed after every trigger tweak, in addition to the ones mentioned earlier. If the striker releases, the job isn't done. Very likely, it requires addition sear engagement; but do not, by any means, assume this is the standard fix.

Triggers are a huge source of potential scewups and liability headaches when amateurs choose to 'adjust' them. If you don't completely understand the workings of the mechanism and its safe adjustment sequence and criteria; it's essential to leave tweaking them to those who do.

Replacement triggers usually come supplied with a very good set of these kinds of instructions, and I see that as the main difference between the consequences of adjusting them, and adjusting factory triggers; which are deldom provided with such instructions and many of whose makers deliberately wish we'd all just stay completely ignorant about them.

Greg

 

[GasLight]

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Greg,

Sounds like deadly did those checks. If it was adjusted improperly, this issue would occur regularly, like on an aftermarket trigger. Now the blame falls on a screw that backed out? Or maybe it got dirty??

How do I know when it reached that 'dirty enough' point?

Where is the literature notifying consumers that when remington triggers get dirty, they are a potential problem?

How often should I clean my trigger to avoid this problem?

How come my other triggers don't do this, the screws seems very similar?

What is unique to the 'old style' remington 700 fire control, that can't be found on any other triggers?

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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I agree, it's not a simple call, but it's made even more complicated by the fact that it got weaseled with.

Greg

 

[shankster..]

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If you guys sold your Remingtons and got Savage rifles with the Accu-trigger the world would be a safer place. How inconsiderate.

 

[GasLight]

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How often does this happen to people using Remington Triggers?

Are there other fire control systems that have this frequency of issues?

Why haven't we seen anything from Remington warning us of a potential issue, whether it be cleaning or adjustment information?

Why did Remington begin cutting bolt locks off, as is standard procedure with any rifle or trigger that is sent back to them for any reason?

Why did Remington begin production of a new and suposedly 'inferior' fire control system?

What would this company have to gain by not acknowledging an issue?

A bigger question that I have, and I absolutely can't figure an answer for, is why if there are fixes that are so cheap, why why why does everyone just keep explaining this stuff away?

What do you have to gain by failing to recognize this as a design issue??? What is it worth??? What is the cost to fix this??? You can buy an excellent aftermarket trigger for under $150. You can buy Remington's new fire control for less than $100. You can buy an upgrade kit for your old style trigger for under $75.

It is just as easy to recommend one of these solutions as it is to say, it must be an adjustment issue, or it must be a dirty trigger, or an adjustment screw backed out. It seems to me that recplacing the parts (even if the issue is questionable), is just cheap insurance...

Dave

 

[BobinNC]

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The problems with the Mike Walker designed Rem 700 trigger has been known for a long time. The whole issue revolves around the trigger connector. It is just a bad design IMHO. The trigger itself is not defective, it is it's design that cause the problem.

Remington’s trigger mechanism uses an internal component called a “connector” – a design component not used by any other rifle manufacturer. The connector floats on top of the trigger body inside of the gun, but is not physically bound to the trigger in any way other than tension from a spring. When the trigger is pulled, the connector is pushed forward by the trigger, allowing the sear to fall and fire the rifle. The proper position of the connector under the sear is an overlap of only 25/1000ths of an inch, but because the connector is not bound to the trigger, the connector separates from the trigger body when the rifle is fired and creates a gap between the two parts. Any dirt, debris or manufacturing scrap can then become lodged in the space created between the connector and the trigger, preventing the connector from returning to its original position.

Remington over the years has implemented several stopgap measures to address this problem:

First they eliminated the mechanism that locks the bolt when the safety was engaged. Their working theory was it this made the rifle more "safe".

They had to Recall Remington Model 600 rifles due to trigger "issues".

Finally, with the advent of the Mark X trigger Remington changed the design.

Discharge on safety release is estimated to affect "only" around 1 % of the 4 million Walker design triggers in service. So it is possible to have owned 10, 20, or 30 or more Remington 700's with Walker triggers and never to have had this problem surface.

Keeping the original Remington 700 trigger scrupulously clean and not using any heavy oil that attracts and reattains crud does a great deal to alleviate and prevent this inherent design defect from becoming apparent. But it is still there...

I have always replaced my Original Rem 700 triggers with Timney's. I have done so since 1995. All the after market triggers, Timney, Shilen, Jewel, Rifle Basic among others utilize a different design then Walker designed Remington 700 trigger so they do not have this problem.

I have never experienced an AD with the original Remington 700 trigger on my rifles at any time. But I for one do not have confidence that the old style Remington 700 trigger is a "safe" design. Anyone has the right to think and do differently, YMMV.

Bob

 

[9H_Cracka]

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Sear engagement and/or sear pressure.

Remmy triggers are not meant to be that light.

 

[308sako]

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Deleted in protest!.

 

[Graham]

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It may not be the fault of the trigger job and/or of the previous owner.

Some LE teams that teach/require use of the safety have had discharges that way, with injuries, with otherwise good (factory adjusted) triggers.

I never use the safety. Cover Safe is bolt up.

 

[Lucks]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
At the end of the day, we all have a responsibility to ourselves and each other to try and be as safe as we can. I am just trying to raise some questions, so hopefully I have fulfilled my obligation to myself and to my brothers...

Dave </div></div>
Well put...

Thank you all again for your help and concern. Y'alls responses have brought to light a lot of issues that many of us may not be familiar with. It is eye opening to realize all the factors (dirt, worn out springs, misadjustment, factory defects, etc.) that can cause safety mechanisms to fail...which can potential cost someone their life. My gun never failed or had any issues, and passed every safety check I knew of ...right up until the point it went off on its own!

Obviously, the bottom line is to never trust the safety on a loaded gun and always be aware of where the muzzle is pointed.

Anyone who has had a gun go off unexpectedly can relate to how unnerving it is, especially the "What ifs?"

 

[hue001t]

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AGI has a good coarse on the rem 700 which shows you everything you can do with the trigger, when adjusting mine i made sure to slam bolt home to make sure wouldent have anything like this.

 

[Red_SC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Acehigh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems to me I remember a safety/trigger Rem. 700 issue 5-7 years ago being discussed on Sniper Country. If memory serves me correctly it was a factory/new issue and had shown up in some used weapons also. The rifles would fire when dropped on the buttpad or when the safety was returned to the fire position. Maybe someone else will remember it also. Where's Kevin Mussack? He was around back then. I could be mistaken about part of this but I definitely remember Rem. 700 trigger/safety/ad's or unintentional discharges
John </div></div>

I remember this as well. A friend of mine was a SWAT sniper at that time, and all of their duty weapons had untuned triggers. For liability reasons, they were supposed to aim at a solid object like a chimney or the ground before releasing the safety.

 

[9H_Cracka]

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When the 30th person was shot by a 700 safety being switched off Remington finally made a modification to the rifle. C prefix and later no longer have a tab that goes up and locks the bolt from turning when on safe. Remmy simply cut that tab off so that you could operate the bolt and unload the rifle without turning the safety off.

Two reasons that this condition exists in the old remmy trigger. One is tolerance stacking, and two is the separate sear bar sitting on the trigger arm. The two work together, and over a large number of triggers, eventually you get an unsafe trigger. The law of large numbers kicks in.

Give me a M70 safety any time, but of course sear pressure and sear engagement can mess these up as well.

 

[BobinNC]

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Addendum to my post above:

Least what I said be misinterpreted, the Original Remington 700 Triggers are not Defective per say. If is is clean, and is "always kept clean", and it is adjusted properly , no discharge will occur when the safety is released.

However, when I say only 1% Original Remington 700 triggers are affected. That does not mean that 1% are defective and the other 99% are fully safe. What I mean is that in only 1% of cases do Remmy triggers get enough crud get between the connector and the sear to affect it's safe function.

It just means in the other 99% of Original Remington triggers enough debris DID NOT lodge in that critical space to affect the correct function of the connector. Not that it could not happen to them as well sometime.

Hope that clears up any misconceptions.

Thanks,

Bob

 

[acehigh]

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Jamie,
Thanks, I thought I was dreamin for minute there.

John

 

[Red_SC]

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Nope, I remember it being a big thing at the time.

You can go back to dreaming about other things!

 

[Downzero]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LoneWolf, I am sure not every corvair blew up... but it didn't make them safe. </div></div>

Corvairs never had problems blowing up. Ralph Nader wrote a book saying that they were unsafe because of poor handling characteristics. He demonized them, saying that they were crash prone because of this.

Two years and over $2 million tax dollars later, the newly-formed NHTSA declared that the Corvair was no more unsafe than any other car in its class. Nader didn't care; he was already famous.

The car is now a common collector's item and many think its design was ahead of its time.

If the most popular bolt action rifle on the market had a design flaw, all it'd take is one accident, one sympathetic jury, and one punitive damage award to fix that. I find it hard to believe that there's anything wrong with this rifle that wasn't caused by operator error or worn parts. This is coming from a guy who shoots a Winchester and has never owned a Remington rifle.

 

[GasLight]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DebosDave ©</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LoneWolf, I am sure not every corvair blew up... but it didn't make them safe. </div></div>

Corvairs never had problems blowing up. Ralph Nader wrote a book saying that they were unsafe because of poor handling characteristics. He demonized them, saying that they were crash prone because of this.

Two years and over $2 million tax dollars later, the newly-formed NHTSA declared that the Corvair was no more unsafe than any other car in its class. Nader didn't care; he was already famous.

The car is now a common collector's item and many think its design was ahead of its time.

If the most popular bolt action rifle on the market had a design flaw, all it'd take is one accident, one sympathetic jury, and one punitive damage award to fix that. I find it hard to believe that there's anything wrong with this rifle that wasn't caused by operator error or worn parts. This is coming from a guy who shoots a Winchester and has never owned a Remington rifle.</div></div>

Goodness knows we have never seen a large scale cover-up of a defective product before, so if we don't see some high profile case by now, the issue is non-existent. I don't have the resources myself, but someone who did would be able to see a long trail of litigation over this exact matter, and then at an opportune point in time, the strategy of the company turned from litigation to hefty and quiet settlements out of court, accompanied with gag orders.

Like I said previously, the information is out there.

But I will give you this, it is much easier to speculate that there must not be an issue, and to blame operator error.

 

[BobinNC]

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Downzero,

There has been many more than one accident and more than 1 death. Just Google Remington 700 Trigger Connector Lawsuits. Plenty of information out there.....

Just remember, the trigger itself is not defective, when it is clean. Only when debris collect around the trigger connector, preventing it from operating per spec's, can problems occur.

And you cannot prevent stuff from getting into the trigger housing. You can only clean it out......

I won't take the chance. But I am cautious by nature, as somethings are just accidents waiting to happen.

Bob

 

[wnroscoe]

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When I hunt or go to the range I dont use the safty for fear of an AD although there are very few actual AD's. If I have to track an animal I use the safty then but, I'm very cautious when dissengaging it. Clean the trigger with lighter fluid and run them dry. I've had rifles come in here packed with grease like they were wheel bearings.

 

[JRose]

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I never use a safety. If I want it safe I'll open the bolt.

 

[Mike]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JRose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I never use a safety. If I want it safe I'll open the bolt.</div></div>

And make sure the rifle is not loaded. That is the only "safety" there is.

 

[ArcticLight]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lucks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The rifle has a Remington trigger in it that the previous owner <span style="font-weight: bold">did a trigger job on himself</span>. </div></div>

1. Never trust the safety.
2. Never trust amateur trigger jobs.

Take it to a smith who knows Remingtons and have him set the trigger. It IS easy to do at home, but it sounds like the previous owner had no idea what he was doing. More than likely there is not enough sear engagement. The issue doesn't really have anything to do with the safety. It has to do with how the trigger was adjusted.

</div></div>

Exactly what he said.

My WInchester Model 70 did this while I was sling'ed up at the300 yard line, sent a round into downtown Puyallup from the Paul Bunyan range.

Never trust a safety again...

 

[ArcticLight]

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One more thing, when the screws ARE adjusted they should be painted with a drop of clear fingernail polish to seal them from backing out.

 

[deadly0311]

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ok well i talked to Adam the guy that i sold the gun to. I did adjust the trigger, it was not my adjustments. The spring had worn out and that is the cause of the AD

 

[ranger1183]

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Have one of these installed.


Gentry Bolt Shroud with 3 Position Safety Remington 700 Right Hand Steel Blue

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=314107&t=11082005

 

[Wil]

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Lucks..

send me a pm where in Central TX you are located...

If you can come to my AO I'll get you squared away... NO CHARGE!

 

[deadly0311]

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he had new springs installed the trigger is g2g now