gunshop screwing people

[drmarc]

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In my best "sarcastic" tone....

Hypothetically speaking, I'm sure the couple of malcontents in this thread would be glad to sell a NIB rifle THEY purchased a couple years ago for what they paid for it then, and not at the current market price of say....$500 more......

 

[Sendero_Man]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ratbert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, turn caps lock off and fill out your profile.

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+ 1000

do it please or leave this site. You have been asked more than once.

 

[Graham]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dogtownboogeyman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... I have a habit of using caps when MAKING A POINT...</div></div>Your points lose their strength when others see that you are not listening to them.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dogtownboogeyman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... THERE IS NO LAW THAT SAYS I CANT DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING SOMEONE SAYS...WETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT... THATS WHAT "FREE SPEACH" IS ALLABOUT GUY...</div></div>Don't be a victim of a partial education: you're in Lowlight's house. Like everywhere else in the world there are rules here, too, that will catch you out if you refuse to pay attention.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dogtownboogeyman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...as for being new... SO WHAT.. i have the same right to free speach as anyone here.. I DONT HAVE TO EARN IT.. ITS A RIGHT..this is AMERICA.. unless of course...YOUR IN SOME 3RD WORLD COUNTRY WHERE THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THAT SORT OF THING...EH....</div></div>Now you're just being a Troll. Go away.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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While I resent the practice of marking up items to meet growing demand, I can't really, in good conscience, place the blame on the middleman. This is a case where the market is screwing itself by introducing additional demand above and beyond what would normally be considered reasonable.

Greg

 

[Graham]

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Good point, Greg: as if the bailout wasn't enough evidence, maybe this is another case of the free market determining our freedom instead of the other way around.

 

[Cartman]

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My wife's prices are never based on what they paid when they first put it in inventory. They are always based on what it would cost to put it back into inventory.

If she did otherwise she would lose money on every sale and may never catch up.

 

[Queequeg]

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Your wife is a gun dealer Cartman? Sounds like the perfect woman!

Sound business practices make her seem even more so. Perfect that is!

 

[canuck]

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Keep in mind that overhead and operating costs are going up as quickly as the price of firearms.

 

[Cartman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your wife is a gun dealer Cartman? Sounds like the perfect woman!

Sound business practices make her seem even more so. Perfect that is! </div></div>

Top 2% diamonds is her business -- but she owned four handguns before we even met and can use them. Her dad also took her to martial arts. But she's from Israel, so that model may be a little hard to find in the USA these days; but they're out there.

 

[Cartman]

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I should note, however, that I'm skeptical that wholesale prices have gone up that much. Moreover, businesses like this seem to focus on the quick buck. The short term. My wife's business is over 50% repeat business, and a huge referral business as well. She got that by giving the best price possible -- seriously -- on the first sale. People cross shop later and if your prices, when they compare elsewhere, gives customers buyer's remorse, they won't be back.

I would vote with my feet and wallet if this place is really taking advantage. They may make a few extra bucks now, but business may dry up big-time when the panic is over.

I travel a little extra to deal with a great place here (Iron Sights in Oceanside). They haven't raised prices at all, even though they've been swamped for months now. The only change has been that one may have to wait longer for something to get in, but you don't have to pay more for it -- even though I'm sure they could get away with it now. As a result, they'll keep getting my business when things calm down.

 

[Rust]

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Let me get this right, he's willing to sell you the rifle at the old retail price, which is $500 less than new retail price. Given that he has already had to pay taxes on his unsold inventory, and has overhead built into carrying the rifle that long he doesn't really have much margin to begin with.

But back to that first part, $500 under current retail. Your complaint is what again?

 

[Hasgun Willtravel]

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[500grains]

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I would not have bought it either.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1shot2kill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">look im not saying that the gun shop employees are comunists for doing what they did i too am all about the all mighty dollar however i asked for a discount 1.it has been on the shelf at least 9 months 2.it has handling marks in the stock as if it were a mildly maintained used bench gun 3. the employee not the manager showed me what they paid for the rifle it was 775.00 so they were selling it for 889.00 that 114.00 in profit thats ok i can live with that however the price that he is going to sell all future t3 tacticals is pretty close to 1400.00 that profit just went from 114 to 625 that to me is not getting screwed but getting fucked.
like i said i too am all about the dollar and part of that means who wants to be on the recieving end of my dollars i can honestly say that this shop will never get another cent from me or anyone i know i am more than happy to take my buisness elsewhere and badmouth them in the meantime...kinda like now </div></div>

 

[dirkreader]

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Well good luck on finding a new one. Hope it works out for you!

 

[hunter223]

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At the shop I work at, the markup is the same percentage no matter our cost we charge based on what we get charged.

 

[Shady_Jay]

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I just got back from Wyoming. I bought me a Tikka T3 Tactical off the shelf. Its mine now so quit bitching.

 

[oneeyedmac]

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Wholesale prices have gone up from some manufacterers, not from others. One example, I sold a Bushmaster to a customer in Novermber and my cost was $770, the same fellow bought another one two weeks ago and my cost was $1090 for the same rifle. On the other hand Superior has not raised their prices and neither has Del-Ton.

 

[Shoots 700's]

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You can always choose to just no purchase something that you feel is overprices. Someone will pay it and they will be happy.

I looked at a coupkle of AK's the other day. 18 months ago they were $399.00 Now they are $999.00. Am I pissed? No! I just won't buy one till the prices get back in line.

 

[8shots]

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I live in a country with high inflation. That means that normally any new stock that comes in costs more then the old stock. The reputable companies will keep their old stock at the old price. Mostly the shopkeeper will warn you and say " You better buy more, because the new stock is going up by x %." Should there be an old stock price rifle on the shelf, and a new one is either in the store room or on the way, and the shopowner knows it will cost x% more, he would be reluctant to give any discounts. He would not jack up the price to match the incoming rifle's, but he would use the leverage and say "well a new one will cost you $500 more, so take this shop-soiled one at the old price and you are still getting a good deal."
So to expect a discount in a rising price market is a bit much. Unless you can find an old price rifle that is not shop soiled, then buy this rifle and clean it up.
Having said that we do also fight for and get discounts on certain items.

 

[1shot2kill]

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if you go to a car/truck dealership to purchase a truck and see one on the lot that is 2 model years old but still brand new never been test driven and is still the sticker price from when it first rolled in how many of you are going to pay that full price or better yet be willing to pay the price for a 2009 truck maybe since you are so set in your ways that you would be willing to pay the price for a 2009 model for the 2007 truck maybe think of that novel concept next time before you tell people to quite thier bitching and to just deal with it because hey that capitolism

what this gunshop and some others are doing with prices is wrong and the same thing is happening with other gun related items primers,powder and brass and its bullshit and btw the gunshop that did this just got caught selling a gun to a undercover cop under the table without a background check and this is the third time (so says the news) so they are getting what they deserve and so will the other shops when people wont buy from them anymore

 

[dtask]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1shot2kill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if you go to a car/truck dealership to purchase a truck and see one on the lot that is 2 model years old but still brand new never been test driven and is still the sticker price from when it first rolled in how many of you are going to pay that full price or better yet be willing to pay the price for a 2009 truck maybe since you are so set in your ways that you would be willing to pay the price for a 2009 model for the 2007 truck maybe think of that novel concept next time before you tell people to quite thier bitching and to just deal with it because hey that capitolism

what this gunshop and some others are doing with prices is wrong and the same thing is happening with other gun related items primers,powder and brass and its bullshit and btw the gunshop that did this just got caught selling a gun to a undercover cop under the table without a background check and this is the third time (so says the news) so they are getting what they deserve and so will the other shops when people wont buy from them anymore </div></div>

Well, congrats then on beating the corrupt system. If the shop had that many problems, why frequent it?

Guns aren't cars - the metaphor has two major flaws:

1. Firearms hold their value and in many instances, increase in value - modern vehicles, for the most part, do not. The particular firearm in question has increased in value.

2. The markup on vehicles is absurd compared to the razor thin margins of firearms. That is why you can go in an wheel and deal with a car salesman. They look for that kind of thing. New firearm prices are, for the most part, static until they rise.

 

[m1garand30064]

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First off, I love when people come in and make posts that break the rules and expect that the first amendment will keep them from being banned from the PRIVATE forum. Every message board has these people, and they always give me a chuckle.

People need to realize that these price increases are very similar to the gas bubble that we witnessed last year. The bubble will burst, if not on all of it then on some of it. Imagine what will happen if a gun control bill makes it to the floor and then gets shot down by congress? The panic buying will end. If no major gun control bill is passed within the near future then prices will come down. The market just cannot bear these outrageous prices for the long term. I have stopped buying because I simply cannot afford it anymore. On top of that, several ammo manufacturers are stepping up to the plate and either increasing production or producing calibers they dont normally do in order to take advantage of the current situation. Increased supply, lower demand.

Barring any MAJOR change in the laws prices will fall. The most likely scenario is a new assualt weapons ban being passed, but in that case ammo prices will fall because it was not affected.

My two cents.

 

[reelman]

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1shot2, So if you were selling a gun for $1,000 and the gun was easilly worth $1,000 and a guy asked if you would take $900 you would immediatley sell it to him or would you say no thanks and try to get the $1,000 that the gun was worth? I'm betting that you would keep the gun. How would you feel if the guy then started ragging on you complaining that you are an idiot because you wouldn't lower your price? Why is it different just because it's a dealer?

 

[1911.it]

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I bought an LMT piston AR <2 months ago for $2100. That same gun will cost me $2500 today. The dealer goes through these like water through a funnel so I assume his prices have gone up on this weapon and that is why it is costing me $400 more. The other thing is he actually has these in stock along with POF 308's, etc. Perhaps he is charging a bit of a premium just so he can keep a few of the these weapons in stock. I haven't bought the $2500 LMT yet but I probably will. Unfortunately ammo and components have gone in the same direction. It's called supply and demand aka capitalism.

(Haven't seen another post from "dogtown" so hopefully this troll was banned.)