H&R 243
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Re: H&R 243
iirc its 1:10, my little brothers will put 3 shots in a quarter sized group with factory hunting loads.
iirc its 1:10, my little brothers will put 3 shots in a quarter sized group with factory hunting loads.
Re: H&R 243
Got one in 223 for the back seat of the truck it shoots lights out but i had to send it back tohr for extraction issues they fixed it and it has been gtg for about three years
Got one in 223 for the back seat of the truck it shoots lights out but i had to send it back tohr for extraction issues they fixed it and it has been gtg for about three years
Re: H&R 243
fred does yours have the extractor or ejector setup? the only time me or my brother have ever had a problem with his is when we shoot winchester ammo through it and that one has the ejector setup.
fred does yours have the extractor or ejector setup? the only time me or my brother have ever had a problem with his is when we shoot winchester ammo through it and that one has the ejector setup.
Re: H&R 243
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fred3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got one in 223 for the back seat of the truck it shoots lights out but i had to send it back tohr for extraction issues they fixed it and it has been gtg for about three years </div></div>A good friend has one in .243 and I've had lots of experience shooting it. That thing is a POS, and has been nothing but problems. I wouldn't give $100 for one of these, much less the $270 they sell for new. The first problem they had was it would kick open when you shot it, and eject the shell out in your face. Searching on Google revealed this is a common problem. The only solution seems to be to keep all of the bolt face completely dry, and pray it doesn't happen and hurt you. Cleaning the bolt face and getting it squeaky clean did seem to fix this for them, but it hasn't been shot a lot since.
The next problem they had was ejection issues. Quite often the shell sticks in the chamber and you have to knock it out with a cleaning rod. A Google search also revealed this is a very common issue also with these for this style of cartridges. I never really found a solution, just lots of guys complaining about it, and mentioning what they tried that didn't work. Many tried to send it back to the factory, and said they still didn't fix it, many tried to polish the chamber which didn't fix it, and many tried other things. It seems on the newer models the factories solution was to cut a notch in the barrel so that you can pry the shell out. Seriously? This is their solution? Apparently so. I've also read about an ejector tune up, that has helped but not fixed it for some people.
My buddy chose to take this one to a gunsmith who said the chamber wasn't cut deep enough from the factory, and it was out of spec. He re cut the chamber, and said it was fixed. Since getting it back, it doesn't do it as often, but it still does it way more than I'd put up with. There just doesn't seem to be a fix for this.
Those issues aside, the trigger is horrible on this one, although I'm not sure what can be done about it.
Accuracy is also a major complaint from what I've seen. I've read tons of reports of people saying theirs are 4-5 MOA guns. My buddy appears to have lucked out in this department as his shoots 1.5"-2" groups at 100 yards with factory Winchester ammo and the handloads we tried in it shot right around 1". This isn't great, but it was decent considering what so many other people are saying about theirs.
Overall, I don't see a single positive thing about this. For an extra $100 over a new one you could buy a nice Savage bolt action with the accu trigger. Why anyone would buy this piece of junk is beyond me, but apparently some people like them.
If you do buy one, check out Greybeard Outdoors. They have a ton of info on them. I've also noticed, that even the guys on there that love them, are constantly working on them trying to get them to shoot decently. They claim they are "tweaking" but honestly, I don't see how this is acceptable from a factory rifle.
My Savage right out of the box shot .5" groups at 100 yards with the handloads mentioned above, shot .8" groups with Winchester factory ammo, doesn't jam, doesn't kick shells out in your face, and is 100x the quality of this thing for $100 more.
There are lots of other options if you don't like the Savages that are so much better for not much more money.
All of this said, $150 for it with all of those barrels is super cheap. I said I wouldn't pay $100 for this gun, but I might would with all of those barrels and hope the other two worked. This was if they were all in like new shape, and it's the absolute max I'd pay. If it does suck (which it most likely will), you could probably get your money back at that price. I don't know that I'd even buy it at that price, but I would consider it. If it was just one barrel I certainly wouldn't.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fred3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got one in 223 for the back seat of the truck it shoots lights out but i had to send it back tohr for extraction issues they fixed it and it has been gtg for about three years </div></div>A good friend has one in .243 and I've had lots of experience shooting it. That thing is a POS, and has been nothing but problems. I wouldn't give $100 for one of these, much less the $270 they sell for new. The first problem they had was it would kick open when you shot it, and eject the shell out in your face. Searching on Google revealed this is a common problem. The only solution seems to be to keep all of the bolt face completely dry, and pray it doesn't happen and hurt you. Cleaning the bolt face and getting it squeaky clean did seem to fix this for them, but it hasn't been shot a lot since.
The next problem they had was ejection issues. Quite often the shell sticks in the chamber and you have to knock it out with a cleaning rod. A Google search also revealed this is a very common issue also with these for this style of cartridges. I never really found a solution, just lots of guys complaining about it, and mentioning what they tried that didn't work. Many tried to send it back to the factory, and said they still didn't fix it, many tried to polish the chamber which didn't fix it, and many tried other things. It seems on the newer models the factories solution was to cut a notch in the barrel so that you can pry the shell out. Seriously? This is their solution? Apparently so. I've also read about an ejector tune up, that has helped but not fixed it for some people.
My buddy chose to take this one to a gunsmith who said the chamber wasn't cut deep enough from the factory, and it was out of spec. He re cut the chamber, and said it was fixed. Since getting it back, it doesn't do it as often, but it still does it way more than I'd put up with. There just doesn't seem to be a fix for this.
Those issues aside, the trigger is horrible on this one, although I'm not sure what can be done about it.
Accuracy is also a major complaint from what I've seen. I've read tons of reports of people saying theirs are 4-5 MOA guns. My buddy appears to have lucked out in this department as his shoots 1.5"-2" groups at 100 yards with factory Winchester ammo and the handloads we tried in it shot right around 1". This isn't great, but it was decent considering what so many other people are saying about theirs.
Overall, I don't see a single positive thing about this. For an extra $100 over a new one you could buy a nice Savage bolt action with the accu trigger. Why anyone would buy this piece of junk is beyond me, but apparently some people like them.
If you do buy one, check out Greybeard Outdoors. They have a ton of info on them. I've also noticed, that even the guys on there that love them, are constantly working on them trying to get them to shoot decently. They claim they are "tweaking" but honestly, I don't see how this is acceptable from a factory rifle.
My Savage right out of the box shot .5" groups at 100 yards with the handloads mentioned above, shot .8" groups with Winchester factory ammo, doesn't jam, doesn't kick shells out in your face, and is 100x the quality of this thing for $100 more.
There are lots of other options if you don't like the Savages that are so much better for not much more money.
All of this said, $150 for it with all of those barrels is super cheap. I said I wouldn't pay $100 for this gun, but I might would with all of those barrels and hope the other two worked. This was if they were all in like new shape, and it's the absolute max I'd pay. If it does suck (which it most likely will), you could probably get your money back at that price. I don't know that I'd even buy it at that price, but I would consider it. If it was just one barrel I certainly wouldn't.
