H4831 and 3006

[GLB]

Starting a new load for my rifle. H4350 can not be found at this time so I am starting a "out of stock load." I picked up some H4831 to try since it was available and plan to use Smk 175 and 190s. I did a search and found some using it but looking for more. I also have W760/h414 and IMR 4350. This will be from a 24" bartlein 1/10 barrel for distance.
Thanks

 

[former naval person]

Re: H4831 and 3006

4831 may turn out to be too slow. Use your IMR 4350. 414 was good in the .270, but may be too slow also. The 760 ought to work but I had better accuracy with 4350.

 

[GLB]

Re: H4831 and 3006

Thanks. 4831 seems close to the burn rate of H4350 maybe a little slower. The IMR 4350 may be temp sensitive for long range , don't know will have to work on it.

 

[Ghogs Nightmare]

Re: H4831 and 3006

From new nosler manual:
H4831:
Starting is 53.0 grs...2394fps (most accurate btw) for 190
MAX LOAD is 57.0 grs...2620fps FOR 190gr
.
Starting is 58.0 grs...2589fps for 175
MAX LOAD is 62.0 grs...2754fps FOR 175gr
(most accurate is 60gr..2683)
.
From Nosler #7 (cool new manual at least layout of colors on pages)

 

[bcjolly]

Re: H4831 and 3006

I'm shooting 60.0 grains of H4831 short cut in my 30-06 and getting 2830 fps with either 175 gn Sierras or 175 gn Bergers.

 

[GLB]

Re: H4831 and 3006

Thanks Guys. What kind of accuracy are you getting with those loads?

 

[JGorski]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacticalHunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Starting a new load for my rifle. H4350 can not be found at this time so I am starting a "out of stock load." I picked up some H4831 to try since it was available and plan to use Smk 175 and 190s. I did a search and found some using it but looking for more. I also have W760/h414 and IMR 4350. This will be from a 24" bartlein 1/10 barrel for distance.
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Ive had very good luck with 4000MR, as well as H4350 with 180 Hornadys, used 57grs. 5/8ths MOA out to 300yds(3 shots groups). This is from my model 70 deer rifle.

 

[Frank Green]

Re: H4831 and 3006

A good working load/starting load with the H4350 is 54.0 behind a 175smk.

I've run this load in my 1903/model 1941 USMC Sniper and my pre64 Win. Target.

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels

 

[GLB]

Re: H4831 and 3006

Thanks Frank. Have you compared that with IMR 4350 or H4831?

 

[Frank Green]

Re: H4831 and 3006

Compared it as far as what? Velocity? Accuracy?

Let me know.

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels

 

[GLB]

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Accuracy is most important always for me. I expect the H4831 will be slower velocity wise vs the H4350. We have nasty weather here now so I can not get out and find out yet.

 

[Fuzzball]

Re: H4831 and 3006

"I picked up some H4831 to try since it was available and plan to use Smk 175 and 190s"

For those bullet weights you will do fine.

 

[GLB]

Re: H4831 and 3006

I think I will be able to work with H4831. I found that a few like it and have good results. I see ALOT of shooters like the IMR 4350 which I have but I am concerned about the sensitivity of it. When the weather allows I can get out do some testing.

 

[kaseyfield]

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I use both 4350 and 4831sc in my 3006 with 175g brgers and it does very well!! accuracy is very good holding 1/2 to 300.. havnt got out an tried any further just yet..

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Re: H4831 and 3006

I use 55.5gr of H4350 behind a 190SMK, actual dope says 2880fps from a 27" Krieger.
I tried 4831SC first but it lacked speed and long range accuracy.

The sweet spot in my barrel is broad from 54.5gr to 55.5 gr. Anything in this charge window produces less than .5 MOA at 300yds.

I would likely opt for the IMR4350 over the 4831. As has been said temp sensitivity may be a factor with IMR offerings.

Your chamber has an awful lot to do with what is going to work best. I have a Serengetti chamber, and it does not have an extremely long throat. It is one hell of a good reamer for great 30-06 accuracy though.

 

[GLB]

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Thanks for the info guys. Things would be simpler if I could find H4350 in stock . It's good to have a backup powder and load anyways so now I am on the hunt.

 

[Frank Green]

Re: H4831 and 3006

Accuracy wise my Model 1941 USMC (1903 springfield) Sniper build with the H4350 will shoot right around 1/3moa. Not bad out of a action made in 1918 and the barrel isn't full floated hey?

Older IMR4064 shot pretty good in .30-06 also. You want to stay with a med. to slower burning powder that fills the case up more.

I'll look at home but I also believe I've loaded one of the VV series of powders and it worked great as well.

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels

 

[GLB]

Re: H4831 and 3006

Thanks

 

[stranded]

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Not to Hi-Jack but are you guys using Mag primers with H4831? I've only shot upto 165's in my '06 and 4831 seemed to have excessive flash compared to 4350 and VV powders. Again I used a lighter bullet.