Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
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Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
I think this will have to depend on your combination of rifle and rear bag... I use a 6-9 and it work's out the best for me..
I think this will have to depend on your combination of rifle and rear bag... I use a 6-9 and it work's out the best for me..
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
I have been running my Bench rest height, swivel, nothed leg, harris in 600 yrd prone f class without any problems. I would like to have a dedicated Sinclair F-TR bipod though. I think it would help me level the playing field.
I have been running my Bench rest height, swivel, nothed leg, harris in 600 yrd prone f class without any problems. I would like to have a dedicated Sinclair F-TR bipod though. I think it would help me level the playing field.
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I think a 6-9 at the top flexes better than a 9-13 at the bottom for loading. YMMV
I think a 6-9 at the top flexes better than a 9-13 at the bottom for loading. YMMV
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pickpick</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have been running my Bench rest height, swivel, nothed leg, harris in 600 yrd prone f class without any problems. I would like to have a dedicated Sinclair F-TR bipod though. I think it would help me level the playing field. </div></div>
Just getting into F Class myself but after shooting off a Sinclair a couple weeks ago I just had to have one. They are thought out and made with a competitive purpose in mind, offer a stable platform and track well. IMHO the Sinclair is a no brainer over a Harris.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pickpick</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have been running my Bench rest height, swivel, nothed leg, harris in 600 yrd prone f class without any problems. I would like to have a dedicated Sinclair F-TR bipod though. I think it would help me level the playing field. </div></div>
Just getting into F Class myself but after shooting off a Sinclair a couple weeks ago I just had to have one. They are thought out and made with a competitive purpose in mind, offer a stable platform and track well. IMHO the Sinclair is a no brainer over a Harris.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
I have been using the 6-9 for F class. It suits my needs better than the 9-13 in just about every position. At the F class match yesterday, many of the guys were talking about how they preferred the Sinclair model over the Harris. If you are going to be doing a lot of F class, you may want to look into one of those.
I have been using the 6-9 for F class. It suits my needs better than the 9-13 in just about every position. At the F class match yesterday, many of the guys were talking about how they preferred the Sinclair model over the Harris. If you are going to be doing a lot of F class, you may want to look into one of those.
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I use the BRM model and find it works well on a range. More girthy guys might like a bit more heigth.
If I was to spend the money a sinclair costs I might consider the Atlas.
Or finally get a rifle trued, blued and tatto'd.
I use the BRM model and find it works well on a range. More girthy guys might like a bit more heigth.
If I was to spend the money a sinclair costs I might consider the Atlas.
Or finally get a rifle trued, blued and tatto'd.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: el gordo2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just getting into F Class myself but after shooting off a Sinclair a couple weeks ago I just had to have one. They are thought out and made with a competitive purpose in mind, offer a stable platform and track well. IMHO the Sinclair is a no brainer over a Harris.</div></div>
You know, I bought one recently and I could not get the accuracy out of the Sinclair that I could get out of my Harris. I probably have to change quite a few things in my form to make it work. How much of a cheek weld do you use and how hard do you shoulder it?
I am used to loading the Harris and I don't have to worry about pulling the rifle into my shoulder... the loading pushes it in. I wasn't sure how to treat the Sinclair.
To be sure, I have only used it once, but I went straight back to the Harris. I need to give it more of a chance.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: el gordo2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just getting into F Class myself but after shooting off a Sinclair a couple weeks ago I just had to have one. They are thought out and made with a competitive purpose in mind, offer a stable platform and track well. IMHO the Sinclair is a no brainer over a Harris.</div></div>
You know, I bought one recently and I could not get the accuracy out of the Sinclair that I could get out of my Harris. I probably have to change quite a few things in my form to make it work. How much of a cheek weld do you use and how hard do you shoulder it?
I am used to loading the Harris and I don't have to worry about pulling the rifle into my shoulder... the loading pushes it in. I wasn't sure how to treat the Sinclair.
To be sure, I have only used it once, but I went straight back to the Harris. I need to give it more of a chance.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
I usually buy the 9-13, then cut it down to about 7.5-11.5. That seems to be a little more useful to me based on my height requirements for comfortable prone shooting. The 6 inch is too low, the 9 inch too high, and I don't trust the screw adjustments to stay put. It takes an hour or two to modify the bi-pods, but they work really well for me after the modification.
I usually buy the 9-13, then cut it down to about 7.5-11.5. That seems to be a little more useful to me based on my height requirements for comfortable prone shooting. The 6 inch is too low, the 9 inch too high, and I don't trust the screw adjustments to stay put. It takes an hour or two to modify the bi-pods, but they work really well for me after the modification.
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range setup matters also... at my local range it goes out to 887 yards... its much higher in elevation then i am at that range so a 6-9 is too short. i went to the 9-13
range setup matters also... at my local range it goes out to 887 yards... its much higher in elevation then i am at that range so a 6-9 is too short. i went to the 9-13
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Depends on the OP. Are you fat or skinny?
9-13 is usually just too damn high for me. Most of the time I'm on 6 matter of fact.
Depends on the OP. Are you fat or skinny?
9-13 is usually just too damn high for me. Most of the time I'm on 6 matter of fact.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends on the OP. Are you fat or skinny?
9-13 is usually just too damn high for me. Most of the time I'm on 6 matter of fact.</div></div> Most of the time i am on the lowest setting on the 6-9 as well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends on the OP. Are you fat or skinny?
9-13 is usually just too damn high for me. Most of the time I'm on 6 matter of fact.</div></div> Most of the time i am on the lowest setting on the 6-9 as well.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends on the OP. Are you fat or skinny?
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I do have belly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends on the OP. Are you fat or skinny?
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I do have belly.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
I'd say there's your answer then. start with the 9-13.
I'd say there's your answer then. start with the 9-13.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
If you are buying it specifically to shoot F-class, get the Sinclair. If you do go with the Harris, get the 6-9 pivoting model and one of the Alpha-Bravo Bipod locks. Avoid the 9-13 Harris. You will be way too high on the lowest setting and your rear bag will be too short regardless of which bag you choose.
If you are buying it specifically to shoot F-class, get the Sinclair. If you do go with the Harris, get the 6-9 pivoting model and one of the Alpha-Bravo Bipod locks. Avoid the 9-13 Harris. You will be way too high on the lowest setting and your rear bag will be too short regardless of which bag you choose.
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I have a 9-13 Harris and I hate it. Really if you are shooting F-class there are better chooses but they are going to cost 200-450 dollars.
I have a 9-13 Harris and I hate it. Really if you are shooting F-class there are better chooses but they are going to cost 200-450 dollars.
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I use a 9-13 also, and have 1 I cut a little shorter so fit a
specific shooting area... it's easy to trim the legs..
I use a 9-13 also, and have 1 I cut a little shorter so fit a
specific shooting area... it's easy to trim the legs..
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carter Mayfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: el gordo2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just getting into F Class myself but after shooting off a Sinclair a couple weeks ago I just had to have one. They are thought out and made with a competitive purpose in mind, offer a stable platform and track well. IMHO the Sinclair is a no brainer over a Harris.</div></div>
You know, I bought one recently and I could not get the accuracy out of the Sinclair that I could get out of my Harris. I probably have to change quite a few things in my form to make it work. How much of a cheek weld do you use and how hard do you shoulder it?
I am used to loading the Harris and I don't have to worry about pulling the rifle into my shoulder... the loading pushes it in. I wasn't sure how to treat the Sinclair.
To be sure, I have only used it once, but I went straight back to the Harris. I need to give it more of a chance. </div></div>
Used a Harris for the first couple years of F-TR, then I got behind one of the Sinclair's and had to have one. Like Carter I load the bi-pod and as sent the Sinclair isn't set up for this. I drilled a hole and threaded it in each of the skids/feet of the Sinclair and screwed in some 2" spikes which is legal for f-class. Talk about a steady front rest, you have one!
Went to a regional shoot that had a covered shooting position and concrete shooting area, spikes won't work there so I had some rubber matting with grooves in it that worked when attached to the bottom of the skids and put into the grooves of the mat on the concrete. Takes a little work, but the rewards are significant.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carter Mayfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: el gordo2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just getting into F Class myself but after shooting off a Sinclair a couple weeks ago I just had to have one. They are thought out and made with a competitive purpose in mind, offer a stable platform and track well. IMHO the Sinclair is a no brainer over a Harris.</div></div>
You know, I bought one recently and I could not get the accuracy out of the Sinclair that I could get out of my Harris. I probably have to change quite a few things in my form to make it work. How much of a cheek weld do you use and how hard do you shoulder it?
I am used to loading the Harris and I don't have to worry about pulling the rifle into my shoulder... the loading pushes it in. I wasn't sure how to treat the Sinclair.
To be sure, I have only used it once, but I went straight back to the Harris. I need to give it more of a chance. </div></div>
Used a Harris for the first couple years of F-TR, then I got behind one of the Sinclair's and had to have one. Like Carter I load the bi-pod and as sent the Sinclair isn't set up for this. I drilled a hole and threaded it in each of the skids/feet of the Sinclair and screwed in some 2" spikes which is legal for f-class. Talk about a steady front rest, you have one!
Went to a regional shoot that had a covered shooting position and concrete shooting area, spikes won't work there so I had some rubber matting with grooves in it that worked when attached to the bottom of the skids and put into the grooves of the mat on the concrete. Takes a little work, but the rewards are significant.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
If I might ask, just how signifigant is signifigant? I have shot off a wide variety of bipods, tripods, rucks, sandbags and rests.
Best I can say is most are a push as long as I can settle into a steady position once I pick the hold on target I want.
When it comes to bipods as long as it isnt a Caldwell which flexs too much in F-class for my tastes, and the spigot attachment that requires alot of drilling, tapping and messing around pretty much they all work with none being signifigant.
So how much of a difference in your scores did the Sinclair make?
My thought is 100 bucks is alot for a bipod so why pay more?
If I might ask, just how signifigant is signifigant? I have shot off a wide variety of bipods, tripods, rucks, sandbags and rests.
Best I can say is most are a push as long as I can settle into a steady position once I pick the hold on target I want.
When it comes to bipods as long as it isnt a Caldwell which flexs too much in F-class for my tastes, and the spigot attachment that requires alot of drilling, tapping and messing around pretty much they all work with none being signifigant.
So how much of a difference in your scores did the Sinclair make?
My thought is 100 bucks is alot for a bipod so why pay more?
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By significant I'm referring to the stability because of the wider stance of the bi-pod. I can detect no movement once the reticle is where I want it.
My scores improved enough to put me up one class, from around 190 4X, to 194 8X. I'm sure it isn't all the bi-pod either, but it sure helped. Feels very solid, the addition of the spikes was important also.
By significant I'm referring to the stability because of the wider stance of the bi-pod. I can detect no movement once the reticle is where I want it.
My scores improved enough to put me up one class, from around 190 4X, to 194 8X. I'm sure it isn't all the bi-pod either, but it sure helped. Feels very solid, the addition of the spikes was important also.
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Thanks for the reply-
I have found that experience helps a great deal. I wonder if you went back to the Harris would your score drop?
Nice shooting, as an aside my last relay for the season was 194 7X.
On the harris.
Good luck in your future matches.
Thanks for the reply-
I have found that experience helps a great deal. I wonder if you went back to the Harris would your score drop?
Nice shooting, as an aside my last relay for the season was 194 7X.
On the harris.
Good luck in your future matches.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
I use the lowest setting of my 6-9. Infact....I don't think I have ever extended the legs.
I use the lowest setting of my 6-9. Infact....I don't think I have ever extended the legs.
Re: Harris bipod for F-Class prone shooting
I have never lost an F shoot and thought it was because I didn't have the Sinclair that many are running now. In fact, I even run a VersaPod on occasion with satisfactory results. If I am going to shoot on a "normal" range (no concrete), a Rock bipod may be used. If concrete is there, a 6-9" notched swivel with a Podloc will be used.
I have never lost an F shoot and thought it was because I didn't have the Sinclair that many are running now. In fact, I even run a VersaPod on occasion with satisfactory results. If I am going to shoot on a "normal" range (no concrete), a Rock bipod may be used. If concrete is there, a 6-9" notched swivel with a Podloc will be used.
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