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Has G changed DDC
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Why so sensitive? How come it eats you alive that some dude you don’t know says something bad about something you like? I’ve got my favorite stuff too but I’m not gonna go cut myself if somebody poo poos it. If the quality and value speak for themselves, who do they require such a vigorous defense?
Sounds really like what’s being argued are two different applications for the platform that are apples to oranges. Kind of like which is better, a hammer or a scalpel? The answer is, depends on whether you’re taking out an appendix or cracking a coconut. I don’t see the sense of the argument there.
The big thing to me is customer service and where loyalties lie with a company. Build a tank, build a Porsche, whatever, but take care of the customer. If geisselle is totally neglecting that, then they deserve to fail. I realize contracts are there the money is made, but in my mind, a industry that revolves around an individual liberty (2A) should be centered on the individual citizen, not the state. That’s of course not to say our military shouldn’t have the best, but not at the neglect of the citizenry. The function of the military is to protect the liberty of the citizenry. That’s why I paid extra for an N-Vision thermal when I could have gotten a better deal on a trijicon at the time. Trijicon could seemingly care less about civilian sales, so my money goes elsewhere.
Another reading comprehension fail. More word soup without making a salient point.
Don't worry, they don't market to people like you. You aren't a customer they would want.
Its like talking to autists who can't understand whats important and whats not.
They are talkers. Not shooters.
someone tagged me so i just appeared.
Branden
Branden
Short bus has done several for me, great guy if you need paint work.
He does the correct colors requested also, if anyone was wondering, lol.
As several said it's a desired effect, HK was perhaps the worst to my eyes with that baby poo RAL, horrible color IMO but that's mine as many people love it because it's HK. I like the SCAR and the G DD very much. but as to your question, I don't get it either. The solution is to buy a "black" rifle or pistol.
I must be the only person that likes the 50 shades of FGE look. I was actually disappointed when I bought an Aero upper, lower, and handguard (separately, not as a set) and they match perfectly. To add insult to injury, the FDE grip I bought is so close it might as well be an exact match too. Ugh. Oh well.
Can we at least agree that G makes really good 2-stage triggers? It is hard to swallow the cost, but it is the price of admission.
Has anyone confirmed that the upper in the OP is, in fact, anodized? To my eye, and it could just be the pic, it looks coated/painted.
Can we at least agree that G makes really good 2-stage triggers? It is hard to swallow the cost, but it is the price of admission.
Has anyone confirmed that the upper in the OP is, in fact, anodized? To my eye, and it could just be the pic, it looks coated/painted.
You sound like that “Leave Brittney alone!” guy from a while back. Don’t worry, I’d not let your obsession keep me from being a customer. I’d just hope they’d take care of me if I had a problem. That’s all.
From the standpoint of loads imparted during the normal act of firing, you're right.
From the standpoint of outdated use cases (bayonet drills) plus the stuff that happens when you lend a tool to a stupid person (using it as a prybar or climbing aid or whatever), it probably needs that extra robustness.
With a bit of redesign, I'm sure that it the lower could be made from a lower grade (cast A356 would be an interesting starting point) or polymer (Mitsubishi Reny). But that would require actual engineering and validation and tooling and marketing. It's way easier to use the existing tooling, rely upon what's worked in the past, create some marketing literature with vaguely SOCOMish-looking dudes, and let forum loudmouths do your heavy lifting.
Mine has been dead nuts reliable for close to 3k rounds. I actually like the anodizing but mine matches pretty good. It’s sub moa all day long with quality ammo or hand loads and even shoots shitty ass PPU green tips at 1.5 moa. IMO one of the best AR’s available and well worth the money!
But then some parts are flat black and others are more shiny. Plus midnight black or charcoal?
I was once asked to use a light white, and a dark black in a pattern.
I was stunned.
Branden
I have a Geissele and a PSA and they both have a 1:7 twist rate and shoot great even with 55 gr. The PSA is black anodized and the Geissele is ODG anodized with not perceived variations in color on each of them. I friend from work bought a Blemula Geissele in DDC straight off their website. When it arrived it was not brown like older ones but FDE. He bought it a few months ago.
Geissle has lost traction in the market place ... They came into the market strong ... then .. Everything they offered for sale was (NIS) Not in Stock or OOS (Out of Stock) .. Two years ago I bought a few of their DDC lowers & uppers & I was not happy. REMEMBER ... Geissele does have a very clear product disclaimer related to their Geissele DDC (Desert Dirt Color) Disclaimer - / I took a chance, was not happy & sold off their DDC products ... However there are 2 of their products that are installed on all of my builds ... Their SCH Super Charging Handle and their Maritime Bolt Catch release ....
I found it's best to have all my parts cerakote together at the same shop, at the same time in the application process. That guarantees the quality color consistency I demand on my builds. It's worth the wait and less stress.
Yes I have bought G upper & lowers in DDC
Yes ... I did not pay attention to the Geisselle product disclaimer related to their Geissele DDC (Desert Dirt Color) Disclaimer
Lost Traction? LOL
Everything they make sells.
Sorry your gun didn't match your purse.
Everything they make sells.
Sorry your gun didn't match your purse.
Yeah i checked the box on the anodizing producing different shades. I attempted to get the point across in my original post that the color isnt whats in question. I'm not sweating the color dif as much as the anodizing quality. The new upper looks like a bad cerakote job. It's a soft finish, a low quality, likely out of spec anodize. The older lower is clearly of higher quality. My older ddc stuff is for sure slightly different shades but the anodizing is solid and consistent in hardness. Again, not really worried about the color difference. Just trying to see if this one is a lemon or has their anodizing just fallen off.
I agree it's way different, to be honest I have never seen a G anodize that "flat" looking. I bought a complete rifle recently OD and it was perfectly finished anodize, slight color difference but I dig it. For sure you got a huge color variation.
It's not the color I care about, in spec anodizing has a harder finish. I've got several sets of geissele uppers/lowers while all different shades they all have the same consistent hard slick surface. There are plenty of people producing parts with in spec anodizing, if G isnt doing it anymore ill just move on. Does it make you feel more legit with your flying fucks and telling a stranger he doesn't shoot? The whole forum knows you must be a real shooter now. I'm impressed.
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Time to stir the pot again.
I picked up a 10.3" Super Duty complete upper from Geissele a month ago since I had a bunch of 20% off coupons. Then Brownells got the matching stripped lower in stock, so I said what the heck I'll just build it out as Bill intended.
Finally got time to take it out and do some drills with it yesterday. 350 rounds, with 50% suppressed. The gun is as accurate if not more than my friend's factory DD mk18 he brought, while also being softer shooting and with no gas to the face when used with my hybrid can. Accuracy was ~1.5" with PCM xtac and winchester LC193. At the end I shot it on the long range bay out to 300yds on 3/4 ipsc steel with no misses.
Last but not least, "mUh FiNiSh" seems to be perfectly fine. I did wipe some oil on it originally to clean it up. Seems to be a really great gun and I'm looking forward to taking it to the next class I do.
I picked up a 10.3" Super Duty complete upper from Geissele a month ago since I had a bunch of 20% off coupons. Then Brownells got the matching stripped lower in stock, so I said what the heck I'll just build it out as Bill intended.
Finally got time to take it out and do some drills with it yesterday. 350 rounds, with 50% suppressed. The gun is as accurate if not more than my friend's factory DD mk18 he brought, while also being softer shooting and with no gas to the face when used with my hybrid can. Accuracy was ~1.5" with PCM xtac and winchester LC193. At the end I shot it on the long range bay out to 300yds on 3/4 ipsc steel with no misses.
Last but not least, "mUh FiNiSh" seems to be perfectly fine. I did wipe some oil on it originally to clean it up. Seems to be a really great gun and I'm looking forward to taking it to the next class I do.
Because it’s marketed as a battle ready type rifle, as I recall he tested it in quite a few more ways than that as well, the if you get under 4MOA be happy is not a good look.
The guy literally posted another video talking about how Bill called him and they fixed his gun...
That’s good
However if I was a higher end AR manufacturer I would hold myself to a higher standard, and I would never say 4MOA is good enough.
Good outcome, but the journey for that guy to get their is a abysmal failure.
If you use this incompetent crony government as a compass/guidance for ANY choices, I don’t know what to tell you.
Sounds like sex with one of my exes- she was a cold and calculating demon.
Sounds like she was looking for an interference fit, but tolerance stacking didn’t allow for it…
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