Re: Have you settled on one go to pistol?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nw1911guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter19802003</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sad thing is.....I actually put some thought into that.</div></div>
Of this I have no doubt. Lol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dark Horse</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Maybe you should send your professional, expert opinion to every law enforcement agency in the country that routinely tests calibers to find the one that best suits their needs. It would seem that the 9mm would be cheapest, so why aren't they all using it?
Question judgment all you want, I suppose that anyone here that has an opinion that differs from yours exhibits poor judgment.
Here is a fact for you not an opinion. The NYS Police were not satisfied with the 9mm's stopping power and switched to the 45 GAP in 2006. They have been very pleased with its performance. </div></div>
Perhaps I should. I've read enough reports that suggest better and more training, more trigger time, and better shot placement trump all that they'd have to be fools to choose anything but 9mm when I was done with them.
I could agree with you every time if you like, but then we'd just both be wrong.
The rationale for a decision is not a "fact." It may be a fact that NYS replaced 9mm pistols with .45 GAPs. It is not a "fact" that they did so for reasons of stopping power--it's just someone else's opinion rather than yours.
My opinion is that if that is, indeed, a fact, that they changed pistol calibers from 9mm to .45 GAP, hoping for more stopping power, that whoever made that decision is a fool, should have known better, and that his or her decision was a mistake that ought to be revisited, because it is practice, mindset, and shot placement that produces results--not magic bullets.</div></div>
DZ, interesting way to look at it. I know of one failure of 9mm here where a local deputy used something on the order of 17 rounds of 9mm out of his duty Glock and the guy was still fighting the paramedics as they strapped him to a gurney, despite having no heart left. He was so loaded up on drugs that he just didn't know he was dead yet. Would .45ACP or GAP done better? Unlikely. I'm not even sure a 12ga. would have done it. But I'm sure a head shot would have. </div></div>
If the guy's heart was missing and he still didn't go down, it should illustrate my point quite nicely. I doubt a .500 S&W would have made that fight any different. </div></div>
I don't see where is illustrates much of anything. First of all, if the officer had time to unload a full magazine, then he had time to place one shot between the eyes.
Secondly, until an autopsy report is made public, I will go out on a limb and say that not one of those 17rds severed the spinal cord. Since there is a better than average chance a bullet will have to penetrate bone before it reaches the spinal cord, a larger bullet with more mass has less of a chance of being deflected of its path.
It's simple physics that was proven a hundred years ago.
