Help me design a new shooting bench

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Here's a very rough sketch of a shooting bench top - just to give you the idea of how it'll lay out. What I'm struggling with is some of the dimensions. The numbers in the parenthesis above each letter are my first instincts. Please give me the dimensions (for each letter) YOU would want.

I'm a right handed shooter and so are my hunting buddies and my family. So I'm designing it mainly for a right-handed shooter. But, I want a lefty to have a place, if one shows up. So, to keep it from getting 'ginormous' I want the left side to be wider than the right.

Seats are indicated but not necessarily to scale.

What would you use for measurements for A, B & C?


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Why not just build one big, square table and use a separate stool for the seat? If you're shooting square to the rifle, it will be universal for left or right-hand shooters. That's how I have mine set up. One of the "Secrets Of The Houston Warehouse" was that having the seat attached to the bench had a measurable effect on group size. One of the other "secrets" was that the heavier the bench, the better (they settled on concrete). I have a bench made out of 2x6s with 4x4 legs, and the top measures about 4 ft. square. I use a separate bar stool with the legs sawed off to the right height for my seat.
 
I've thought about the same for some time. To the point of considering taking a piece of plywood to my range which has concrete tables and just C clamping it on top. The old style of building benches is not good for getting straight behind the rifle.

I think I would just cut a sheet of plywood 36 x 48 making your A, B, and C a total of 48. Unless you seat side of your B dimension to be a solid piece. Personally I think I would just make it rectangular and just use a chair. The only thing I ever have on the left side of my rifle is maybe a spotting scope on a small tripod
 
Or you could have the extension part on both the left and right side of the table and have one longer bench in the middle of them. 4x8 sheet of plywood (Or a couple preferablly) with the middle of the back edge hollowed out (cut of a canoe looking piece). My cousin picked a bench like that up off a shooting range that closed down or something. It's nice as everyone has access to all of the tables real estate and not just one half that they can reach without getting up.
 
Great points y'all. I may change up the layout. I really like that this design could be built with 3 legs and that a shooter could just slide into the seats without having to climb in, as it were. However, I can sure see the benefits of sitting square to the table.

This is going to be a very heavy treated wood bench - the legs are 6x6 posts and I'm using 2x6s for the framework and 1x6s for the top, instead of plywood. It will sit on leveled concrete pads. This is for my front yard range (200yds) and my wife would prefer it look fairly nice- like a piece of yard furniture. Lol.


Why not just build one big, square table and use a separate stool for the seat? If you're shooting square to the rifle, it will be universal for left or right-hand shooters. That's how I have mine set up. One of the "Secrets Of The Houston Warehouse" was that having the seat attached to the bench had a measurable effect on group size. One of the other "secrets" was that the heavier the bench, the better (they settled on concrete). I have a bench made out of 2x6s with 4x4 legs, and the top measures about 4 ft. square. I use a separate bar stool with the legs sawed off to the right height for my seat.


What is the "Secrets Of The Houston Warehouse?" Also, can you expand on the effects of an attached seat on group size? I'm interested to hear which type of seating is better and, hopefully, 'why.'
 
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If you had asked this question 10-15years ago, I would have emailed you a complete set of plans for a wooden bench that could be used left-or-right handed, was an update of benches used at a state organization's range, which I built a half dozen of, and which served my own club for well over ten years.

But those benches also had flaws, big and small, and besides, I don't have the image files anymore. In essence, no one design is going to work for all users.

Answer these question (for yourself, not me) and then proceed from there.

Will the bench need to serve more than one shooter over time? Will it need to be moveable? Transportable? Accommodate uneven ground? Soft ground?

Some features I recommend:

That the shooting surface itself be at least 42" front to rear. That it be capable of being leveled, and that it has a means to prevent it from rocking (note, a tripod base arrangement is naturally secure and stable, but must be wide enough set so it cannot tip). That it have a slight lip (1/4" or less) all around to prevent items (like a cartridge) from rolling off. If a seat is incorporated, that the bench/seat combination be secure enough to prevent the rifle from being disturbed by the shooter's movement. Provides some convenient space to place a spotting scope. I like a slight forward pitch (front very slightly down), to allow for the easier employment of bipod, rest, rear bag, etc. It is better for the bench to be bigger than smaller, and the layout must avoid forcing the shooter to stretch over or around any portion of its shape. If portable, it needs to fit the transporter, and if that requires it to be segmented, those segments must be light enough to be moved reasonably and couple rigidly enough that the original purpose is not compromised.

Finally, benches that stay outdoors have a nasty habit of harboring ticks and wasp nests on their underside. Make point of observing the undersides of the supporting surfaces before climbing aboard. Keeping a can of wasp and or insect killer spray available never hurts.

My bench design was made from 2x4 lumber and 3/4" plywood, laid out so three 32" square benches could be made from single sheet. In practice, they worked, but really needed to be considerably bigger. They were extremely rigid yet light, owing to making the legs by screwing the 2x4's together so they had an 'L' shaped cross section, there legs were tied together at the bottom by horizontal skids, and several of the excess plywood panels were employed as gussets. There was literally no scrap left after construction.

Greg
 
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'The Secrets of the Houston Warehouse' describes an article (Precision Shooting?) written to document a long term experiment employing an abandoned warehouse as a dedicated indoor BR shooting environment. It was intended to be isolated from environmental influences.

In actual practice, yes, there was a significant improvement in the shooting results, but it was also discovered that interior micro-climates occurred, occasionally preventing the the utterly reliable and dependable total isolation which was the ultimate goal. It provided considerable insight, but has since faded into precision shooting history (...and alas, so has Precision Shooting. It is one of my proudest accomplishments that I once managed to have three of my own articles published in it, and in its sister publication Tactical Shooter).

Greg
 
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Thanks for the link! I'm in the process of reading the article and it's fascinating. I'm going to try to print it out to keep around - in case the internet dies. LOL!


I'm definitely building my bench my way and to my specs but I wanted input from others to help me look at my design with other eyes. Input from others never hurts. This bench is to replace a portable bench I've been using for a few years that's just not good enough for serious load development. I'm trying to get more serious about my reloading.

 
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Keep in mind that not everything that was "learned" in the Houston Warehouse has stood the test of time, or worked exactly as they thought it would. The point about the separate bench/stool (as I remember) was simply that if the two are attached, more movement is transmitted to the rifle.
 
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Taking y'all's advice and going with a more square design. Also talked to an accomplished bench shooter buddy and he reiterated what y'all said. Plus, we can use it as a table when we sit outside. That way I can justify buying a portable canopy for shooting in the South Texas heat! Lol! Here's a quick sketch of what I'm going to build....


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Thanks for the input fellas! I'll post pix of the finished project.