help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

[Viper65fr]

Hello every one I would need your help for load in 30-006 with SMK 190 and SMK 220.

in my 28" barrel I manage the 220 up to 2643fps and an accuracy around 0.180MOA

and 2671fps for the 190smk with the same accuracy.

Is anyone going faster and keeping accurate ?

best regards

Pierre

 

[trailrider121]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

I'm currently using Win brass,57.0grs, H4350 with 185 vld in 24" barrel. They're running at 2810 avg. and will hold sub moa out to 600 yards. I have shot this load to 1k and does great. I will be re-working on my 208 amax load using Hunter powder and they were getting an average speed 2720 fps. They are loaded on the edge, but shoot great.

 

[Tripwire]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

190 smk's here.....25" 1:9.5 twist.

H4350, Win brass, CCI 250's...@ 2770 fps.

1K is easy, accuracy is sub minute..........

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

I have an Apache Custom 30-06 with 1-10 twist Krieger, heavy varmint contour finished 27 inches.

My actual dope has shown a consistent 2880fps with 55.5gr of H4350.

I ran my ladder with 54,54.5,55,55.5,56,and 56.5gr. I wouldn't give you ten cents for the difference between 54 and 55.5gr. a pretty wide high performance band there. All velocities were about the same there and had single digit standard deviations the lowest being at 55.5. Even though 55.5 was on the edge of the ladder I went with that.

I load the 190SMK exclusively. I don't think you will need the 220SMK as I had no trouble reaching a mile at TVP with thsi load. Sub MOA performance at 1000yds.

I am using Lapua and 60's vintage Lake City with equal results. BR2 primers exclusively. YMMV

Remember when using these loads your rifle is not my rifle, proceed with caution. My chamber was cut with the German Salazaar designed Serengeti 30-06 reamer.

 

[doc76251]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

10 twisted, 26" Broughton

Running 210 Bergers and 208 Amax's interchangeably at 2800 fps in a WCC57 case, FGMM 210's and 60gr even of RE-22.

They were so accurate I haven't tried anything lighter.

Also work very well in a 22" Ruger M77 hunting rig.

Cheers,

Doc

 

[SPAK]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

Doc

Did you find any problems with temp sensitivity with the re 22??

 

[TT]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

Krieger #7 Target 10 twist 26" barrel. Serengeti reamer. Lapua brass. BR2. ~59 grains 4831SC (temp stable). 208AMAX. 2750f/s. Half MOA accuracy.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Frogman77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doc

Did you find any problems with temp sensitivity with the re 22?? </div></div>

I can answer that for him.
Of course he did. THe people who make the stuff will tell you on the phone that it is very temp sensitive. The stuff is great for static shooting but I wouldn't mess with it at all for any tactical style shooting. It will be fine for F-Class too...static and you get sighters.

I had a love hate relationship with Re22 years ago shooting 1000yd BR.

 

[Wolfish365]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

My father is going to really enjoy this particular thread. He swears by the .30-06. Thanks bunches everyone

 

[Edo1]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

Take a look at this, http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2012/05/cartridges-accuracy-secrets-of-30-06_10.htmlk

 

[doc76251]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: armorpl8chikn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Frogman77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doc

Did you find any problems with temp sensitivity with the re 22?? </div></div>

I can answer that for him.
Of course he did. THe people who make the stuff will tell you on the phone that it is very temp sensitive. The stuff is great for static shooting but I wouldn't mess with it at all for any tactical style shooting. It will be fine for F-Class too...static and you get sighters.

I had a love hate relationship with Re22 years ago shooting 1000yd BR. </div></div>

Actually my temp sensitivity was pretty much negated by my OBT/OCW loading. I'm POI stable out to 1200 yards. You of course must adjust for the ambient temp that you are shooting in but that happens past 300 yards. I've shot the same load from 100*F to 50*F and have no unaccounted for shift. My dope cards are set up to be zero at 70*F at sea level with 29.95 station pressure and 60% humidity. Adjust for your station pressure, ambient temp and carry on smartly.

I've made (a few) first round 1 mile hits and can usually stay w/i 2 - 3 plates of the target but that is lateral movement due to wind not elevation. I find little to not like about RE-22 especially as it does well in my 300WM, 300WSM and .243. YRMV, IMHO etc.....

Cheers,

Doc

 

[Viper65fr]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

659yards with 10rds with 220SMK 7 hits in 0.494MOA the wind made the 3 flyers

the rifle

the SMK 190

average speed 814,40m/s = 2671fps

the 220 SMK

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

I think you're going to find that the .30-'06 is rather an authoritative chambering

The US Government reckoned back when they first adopted it that with a 147-150gr bullet, it was already generating about the maximum recoil that the average healthy American recruit could handle under indefinitely sustained fire.

Where the 168SMK is not effectively supersonic from the .308 at 1000yd, I do believe it could do that trick out of the .30-'06.

Going heavier will generate better ballistics, but I've never been a really big fan of making the ballistics do the heavy lifting in LR marksmanship.

After trying the .30-'06 with 190's at 1000yd F Class, I can tell you true that when that last round goes downrange, there's a large sense of relief not to be getting pounded any more. There's probably no better lesson in the effects of stress and fatigue on match marksmanship than 40-60 rounds prone.

For this reason, I impose a personal limit on bullet weight with the .30-'06 at the 175SMK. It is adequate to the task, and I personally believe that while better ballistcs can cut wind drift, the entire picture needs to include fatigue from added recoil; and that the balance between better ballistics and sustainable marksmanship is by no means a slamdunk in either's favor.

Logically, a marksman with a superior set of windskills should be able to make the 'lesser' ballistics work out in their favor.

Greg

 

[Viper65fr]

Re: help needed for 30-06 loads for long range

Greg beleive me I can"t shoot more than 20rds of 220 without the muzzlebreak you are right it's painfull