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Hey NZ and Canada, this true?
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Did you follow the government response to the trucker bouncy castle evolution?
Get to this level? It’s here, man. It may not be bad where you live yet, but it’s here
Declare me a terrorist, don't be surprised when I start doing terrorist shit.
People follow laws because they expect others to reciprocate and together, everybody creates an atmosphere conducive to productive living. Take away that reciprocation, and the incentive to follow laws goes down to zero.
Even in the MOST dystopian and tyrannical society, the CHOICE of whether to obey or not still rests with me, and how I choose to respond to threats to try to get me back in line is my decision at the bottom line too.
ETA: Accepting a booklet given out by the government telling you how to live is gayer than jerking off while watching a whole room of dudes fucking each other in the ass. I ain't even gonna touch that shit. Better get that shit away from me dawg.
People follow laws because they expect others to reciprocate and together, everybody creates an atmosphere conducive to productive living. Take away that reciprocation, and the incentive to follow laws goes down to zero.
Even in the MOST dystopian and tyrannical society, the CHOICE of whether to obey or not still rests with me, and how I choose to respond to threats to try to get me back in line is my decision at the bottom line too.
ETA: Accepting a booklet given out by the government telling you how to live is gayer than jerking off while watching a whole room of dudes fucking each other in the ass. I ain't even gonna touch that shit. Better get that shit away from me dawg.
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One picture is worth a thousand words.
If you are living in a police state, try to be a poniard always pointed at their backs right at their vital organs, ready to strike if ever need be.
There is much wisdom for you to find in this statement.
I believe the pamphlet on how to live was handled out thousands of years ago.
Uh, hate to tell you but the US DOJ listed those who where "jab hesitant" or who spread China virus "disinformation" known now as truths, as domestic terrorists. The language is critical now that red flag laws are in place.
Well, the FBI runs the media. Elections are obviously fake and nothing changes. Jan 6 tourists are in prison. You do the math.
Don't forget those real dangerous domestic terrorists at school board meetings object to teaching specific topics.
And don't forget this.
And don't forget this.
Those people are used to being subjects whose rulers accustomed to subjugating their populations, nothing new…If anything its more of a “correction” to the mean and away from the more liberty-focused reforms those countries instituted shortly before after the War moreso than anything else. Shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Our history is different and I believe while things are trending similarly badly here, there’s still more than enough Patriots in this country to do what has to be done if globalist-controlled demoshits (in collaboration with rinos) overstep and the Constitutional checks and balances completely fail.
Our history is different and I believe while things are trending similarly badly here, there’s still more than enough Patriots in this country to do what has to be done if globalist-controlled demoshits (in collaboration with rinos) overstep and the Constitutional checks and balances completely fail.
You blokes not paying attention at home?
You've got a POTUS stating that MAGA, Trump Supporters and Patriots are enemies of the State.
The Brodie's notes version of that is that anyone not going along with the Green/WOKE/Rainbow/Big Pharma/WEF/NWO narrative is a threat.
I'd argue that the USA has far more options in regard to the use of State force to implement the agenda than NZ or Australia.
You've got a POTUS stating that MAGA, Trump Supporters and Patriots are enemies of the State.
The Brodie's notes version of that is that anyone not going along with the Green/WOKE/Rainbow/Big Pharma/WEF/NWO narrative is a threat.
I'd argue that the USA has far more options in regard to the use of State force to implement the agenda than NZ or Australia.
Unfortunately, with the way your country is being run (into the ground) you're not far behind.
Terminology
Wonder why they don't call it a politician state?
having been born in australia, now call america my home (for 20 years) all i can say is there are some subservient morons in the commonwealth. the thing i noticed immediately here is independence and everyone can go F*& themselves but not there. My family have no clue what i am talking about when i say i am "free" they think they are .. no clue. This is why we need to protect what we have, as the rest of the world havent a freakin idea what we call free ... (and yes its getting harder).
I live in NZ and this is the first I've heard of this. Bear in mind I don't follow any media of any type so anyhting could be happening.
This country is definitey far more shit that in used to be just a decade ago, some of it is policy like this but in many ways the cost of living and living standards are more of an issue. Average people don't care about this stuff because they are just struggling to live day to day, and many of them are fleeing overseas.
Thankfully Idon't know a single person that gives a shit what the government says any more, or anyone who will even take notice of half this dumb shit that goes on. Our current socialist government should get the boot next year and all of these stupid policy will very quickly follow.
If this stuff doesn't start disappearing all the worth while people are just going to leave and it's going to be a complete basket case.
This country is definitey far more shit that in used to be just a decade ago, some of it is policy like this but in many ways the cost of living and living standards are more of an issue. Average people don't care about this stuff because they are just struggling to live day to day, and many of them are fleeing overseas.
Thankfully Idon't know a single person that gives a shit what the government says any more, or anyone who will even take notice of half this dumb shit that goes on. Our current socialist government should get the boot next year and all of these stupid policy will very quickly follow.
If this stuff doesn't start disappearing all the worth while people are just going to leave and it's going to be a complete basket case.
There is so much to unpack here, but first.
This is what is so great about the interwebs, we have a guy here half a world away and we see his view as boots on the ground. And I can say despite what @craigos says the US is on a fast track, and it will crack.
On to the comments on your post:
The interesting parts to me are, "average people don't care about this stuff because they are just struggling to live day to day.." Well yup, this is why the .gov is running things the way they are. Make things just bad enough and hold it there for it to be accepted as "the new normal". This keeps them busy and out of the .gov's hair. This is all by design.
The next interesting things is "I don't know a single person that gives a shit what the .gov says anymore" Again by design. If you don't watch them and yell to high heaven then they are doing just what they want you to do. You get so tired of the socialist BS you just stop paying attn.
Lastly "getting the boot". All I have to say is look at Brazil, or for that matter the US. You may hold out hope that Italy had a good free and fair election, and they did. But that was a mistake that will not be allowed to happen again. Just like Trump in the US was a mistake, everyone thought he would get creamed in the election....did not work out that way, so we got our last election and the.....questionable outcome of that.
If you cannot see where this is going, and that everything in Canada in the UK and Australia is coming here, then you are blind!
There is no good outcome to any of this.
Merry Christmas!
Enjoy it. There may be few good ones left before things get grim.
Unless you've had your head in the sand....
This IS the last Christmas.
I do not think for a second that something catastrophic won't happen before next Christmas.
And by that I mean world changing, nuke war, complete fuckup on disease release, whatever similar of that magnitude.
I see no future where the idiots won't make a mistake that ends mankind.
The man in the photograph, Ahamed Aathil Mohamed Samsudeen, a Sri Lankan born ISIS supporter, stabbed eight people in an Auckland supermarket before being shot dead by Police.
That is not a photograph of what a terrorist might look like. That is a photograph of an actual terrorist.
2021 Auckland supermarket stabbing - Wikipedia
I disagree.
While there may be a world changing event it will not be world ending.
Though the number of days left to live somewhat easily are limited the number of days left are numerous.
Thought police, 
hmmm??
I've given this advice most of my life; the quality of one's life is greatly related to mouth control. Both what you let in and out. You're free to think anything you want, let lt out and it can not be put back in, especially online! There's no such thing as a secret...
You're welcome
hmmm??I've given this advice most of my life; the quality of one's life is greatly related to mouth control. Both what you let in and out. You're free to think anything you want, let lt out and it can not be put back in, especially online! There's no such thing as a secret...
You're welcome
New Zealand is an autocratic tyrannical shithole. The people gave up their rights and arms because they have been conditioned as british subjects and not citizens. Fuck them as far as I am concerned.
They were jailing people for showing a video of the mosque shooting. One guy got 21 months for sharing the video. Think about that.
If there was ever a country that needs to be hit by a comet or erased via tsunami, its NZ.
Canada and Austrailia are no different. Country full of cucks who are happy to give away the tools of freedom. There are more AR's in the US than people in the entire UK, Can, NZ, AZ combined. Thats just AR's.
They were jailing people for showing a video of the mosque shooting. One guy got 21 months for sharing the video. Think about that.
If there was ever a country that needs to be hit by a comet or erased via tsunami, its NZ.
Canada and Austrailia are no different. Country full of cucks who are happy to give away the tools of freedom. There are more AR's in the US than people in the entire UK, Can, NZ, AZ combined. Thats just AR's.
Now, y'see,,,, this is where you're completely WRONG about the actual facts of the matter.
There is no-one I know who's happy about the premise of having to give something up. Not happy AT ALL. The only ones happy about this whole topic, are the head-in-the-sand sheeple, who're truly wanting to stop the sunrise. You know, the delusional idiots that support DEMONcrats. Those who adore the oBOMBination.
Same folks as in your neighborhood and most-likely in your family too. How happy are you about THAT? What do you think should be done about that?
Go ahead, you start!
You think honest and fair elections exist in any modern country?
They have done nothing to prevent it. Eveneryone has to draw a line in the sand somewhere, and for most Americans, Disarmament is one of the those lines.
Again, this is where you're WRONG.
Please, do us all a favour and stop spewing untruth's and 'bad gossip'. Be better than that, eh?
There are a 'not small number' of firearm owners here in this Country that are doing what we can, (and HAVE BEEN) to stem the tide of communism. Simply because, THAT is what this country is turning into. And THAT is NOT what our forefathers fought-for, or built.
(is ANY of this sounding familiar, mister pot? How about yourself there, mister kettle?)
What exactly is it that you're expecting others to do, but are not doing yourself? I could easily say that 'your country too is going down the tubes, and ya'll ain't doing anything about it either'. But I won't actually say that, because it would be tantamount to 'pissing into the wind'.
So just stop, please.
And have a Merry Christmas
Your forefathers never fought for lndependance. In fact they fought against the united States rebels and if it wasn't for the British burning DC in 1812...most of Canada would be part of the US.
Yall were never free and have lived under the boot of monarcy and illusion of democracy forever.
Like I said everyone has to draw a line...disarming is one most here would draw. Your government is a joke...your military is a joke...both could be overthrown by just 5 to 10% of the population. But that will never happen becuase Canadians are used to being servants and do not even have basic human rights like freedom of speech or right to self defense.
Yall were never free and have lived under the boot of monarcy and illusion of democracy forever.
Like I said everyone has to draw a line...disarming is one most here would draw. Your government is a joke...your military is a joke...both could be overthrown by just 5 to 10% of the population. But that will never happen becuase Canadians are used to being servants and do not even have basic human rights like freedom of speech or right to self defense.
I don't think we have a right to talk about being willfully subjugated. We do not have freedom of speech, many cities/counties/states do not have right of self-defense.
The Brazilian people have been protesting in the millions for 53 straight days over their election issues. Doesn't mean anything will change, but they are demonstrating what we are not.
No one here is sticking up to their "lines in the sand". How many said mandates would do it? Free speech? Illegal search and seizure? What about this surveillance state? What do you call keeping people from going to church (restricting religious freedom) while strip clubs and liquor stores remained opened? What do you call preventing information under the guise of "controlling misinformation" that would have saved millions of lives in the past 3 years, while forcing genetic "therapy" that may have killed and disabled millions, and sterilizing over 60-70% of females in two generations that received it?
Disarmament HAS been going on already, NY has been using "Red Flag laws for years" (I remember a case years ago of a NY guy in mourning that had a short term Rx for a benzodiazepine for a month during his grief, he was a competitive shooter, they went to his house and took his firearms); this only went public because he had the money to fight it, how many happen cases happen and persist with no recognition? Do you need to hear about troops going door-to-door, because that won't be for a while - the initial efforts in confiscation will be very focused, probably to the equivalent of "those 3% types". Denial of firearm purchase on BS grounds is already happening. Wait until they make use of their "domestic terrorist" lists to use red-flag laws for confiscation.
Unequal justice? I literally lost everything I earned, MILLIONS, due to corruption courts and judges; and with everything taken did not have resources to fight in appeals. Corrupt judge would not "allow" a simple Rule 108 to allow my case to proceed. There IS a two-tiered justice system.
Illegal search? I have personally had every single piece of personal mail/packages in the past two years opened by USPS and re-sealed. Every single piece of private mail. In all of my recent air-travels I have been subject to detailed (as in pressure on my pubic bone) body searches and chem-swiping of my hands for ZERO reason other than comments here; yes I have metal hardware but you can't tell me the new scanners don't clearly show where metal plates are in a body and are clearly distinguishable from weapons etc. I can't be the only one.
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You are absolutely correct about Canada. Thing is, the US was actually free once upon a time, and now is happily marching in lockstep into socialist utopia, while talking loudly about the glory days before the majority of US citizens turned into mentally fat lazy slobs pandering to senile pedophiles who are bent on following WEF directions to the letter. All the while spouting “cold dead hands” boot camp rhetoric and blaming the other guy. It hurts to tell your former pro athlete buddy he is a fat slob now, but facts are facts. Those of us who never hit the top step are not feeling it for the country that used to show us how things were done. The US is Ukraines butch now, but not used to it. “First time bro?”
I do trust the elections in my country yes.
First, because our current Government couldn't rig an election of they tried as they are so incompetent it's honestly un believable.
Second, I know many did actually vote for those idiots based on the most retarded thinking imaginable.
Third, we have very little corruption at the highest level of Government not because corruption doesn't exist but the people who can benefit from it get nothing from our central Government, its at more local levels where the money can be made. At central level they don't need corruption, people can just set up a focus group or a consultancy and legimately get what they want without the need for corruption.
Not every country has politics like the US, I'm not scared of big Government or rigged elections because for the most part they are too stupid to be able to pull it off. Our current crop of idiots don't attempt to hide what they are doing, the media and public know what they are doing but still sing their praises anyway, or at least did.
I'm far more sacred of the general public than I am of the Government, the public have shown time and time again that their BS meters aren't working and will believe the nonsense spouted by the Government or by the media. Thats why I'm not worried about these stupid rules this time round, they only work when the media is helping spread the Government BS and the people keep eating it up. Soviet Russia didn't have the resources to keep everyone under their boot, it requires the people to buy into the story and help keep themselves and their neighbours oppressed. For the past 5 years the average person has been stupid enough to think our Government was doing a good job and was actually believing them. Now that they have lost buy in from the public (due to relatity kicking in) they are screwed.
The scary thing is nothing has actually changed, the Government was always as hopeless as they are today but people just couldn't see it.
It's exactly the same around the world, the USA hasn't lost its gun rights not due to the constitution but due to it being politically not possible. Once the populations in the cities has more political clout that the rural folk or the people with gun culture, your gun rights will be gone. Unless you have state politicians with big balls that stands up to central Government you'll be screwed.
Just like here the Government can wage work war again farmers and rural folks because they are outnumbered by the city/town peoples.
Yet the farmers just keep bending over and taking it, until they actually make an ultimatum with the Government and start hurting the back (like Dutch and farrmers have tried doing, or the truckers in Canada) then the Government can do what they want.
There is nothing new under the sun, the general population doing what they are told and good people not standing up in the lessons of history.
You can blame lizard people, or the world bank or who ever but ultimately people don't change.
Thankfully most western countries are setup in such a way that only so much damage can be done. I honestly think we will have a change of Government next time around and can hopefully get some sensibility back.
If not, then I guess I'll have to consider my options.
This is where US politcs are very different than the rest of the world.
NZ doesn't need back room deals and stolen elections, Politicans are open about what they are doing and the utopia they are aiming for, and the utter failure of these policies is also obvious to everyone.
The scary part is that people can't see it for themselves, often not becasue the aren't paying attention but because they actually think doing something horribly and wasting millions/billions of dollars on the way is how you work out solutions.
People forget that having open and honest debate about problems is an option anymore, idealism and utopianism is sexy and the only option in most peoples minds.
Right on with this comment, there is no dramatic crossing the line in the sand moment just the continual attack/erosion of every facet of life for people with more conservative outlooks.
US gov wins by not not going for something grand like disarmament and just constricting the citizens to death, which is pretty much the fate of any country that has hundreds of years of entrenched bureaucracy, NZ, Australia, UK, Cananda and US are all well along this path.
This is just looking at the nature of the gov and not the morally degenerate left that is waging a full on culture war, nor the fact that even in the face of disarmament there is a huge group of people that will give up pretty much anything for comfort.
The right to own guns is not some magical switch you can throw to immediately stop or reverse gov over-reach, it's the ultimate gambit that no one wants to use as the situation needs to be as dire as the consequences of playing it, and so the gov continues to slowing choke folk in the US just like elsewhere.
Well that enough ranting for today, Merry Christmas and a happy new year, hope everyone gets to enjoy a bit of time off and stay safe.
I am well aware of who the traitors to our Constitution are on this site.
