SSIA, I'm not going to post what's better an abc or the xyz. Everybody definitely has their preference and there are just to many bandwagons out there to jump on. Unfortunately where I live I don't have the luxury to just walk into my local gun shop mall (ok I'm in So. cal.) we just don't have any. I wish I could look through several scopes and see what I like and which reticle I feel will suit me best. I've got a budget of $2,500-$3,500 and plan on doing mostly 1,000 yard and hopefully farther, I'd just like to chat with some of the vendors and see what they think and sell the most of within my budget. Mike from CSTac has been great but being in lovely CA I have to deal with tax etc. plus I've found some competitors selling the exact same scope for a few hundred dollars less and roughly $240 in tax. CSTAC is where I'd probably go but I'd pay an extra $500 on what ever I was to buy and I doubt very seriously they could match those prices. Especially just the governors sunshine tax we have here.