Hmmm. Final Vegas Shooter Report

Yeah sometimes people just decide to spend a night murdering dozens and causing mass casualties for no reason.

Im not believing it.

These type of guys leave a manifesto behind in order to show the world how brilliant they are in order to gain the notoriety they lacked in their everyday life.

This makes me believe more in some cockamamie Saudi attempt to murder the Prince which probably set into motion the events for the mass arrests over there.

Fuck face was a patsy arms dealer that got taken.

Too much doesnt add up.
 
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I like a good conspiracy theory discussion every now and then. Of course I don't go full blown Alex Jones level of craziness. The conspiracy theorist in me goes to DefCon 1 when I think of this Vegas shooting because of how quick the attention went from the shooting/shooter to bump-fire stocks. Obviously we have seen in the past how the focus in the media goes right to the gun used especially if it's an evil black rifle. But in the case of the Vegas shooting, it seems bump-fire stocks were the main focus immediately. Things just don't smell right with me. I'm fully aware that we got some psychopathic people out there that would love to pull off what Paddock did, but just the way the main focus aimed (no pun intended) at bump-fire stocks, something just aint right.
 
So much of the incident just does not make sense. Why all the guns? Any prudent murderous whack job would need one, perhaps two firearms, if one should malfunction, to commit such an act.
The harm was in his elevated location, amount of ammunition and magazines.
Makes no sense unless 21 other whack job buddies failed to show up.
 
That shooting was orchestrated to suit an agenda of some sort, either more gun control in general or bump stocks specifically. No manifesto, too many details that don’t fit, the laptops with no hard drives the night of the crime but then reported to be loaded with child porn, muzzle flashes from a window below the shooters room. Personally, I think the patsy was dead well before the shooting started.

To expand on Maser’s point about bump stocks, that was not the first target by liberals after the shooting. The very next morning I believe Schumer jumped on the evils of silencers, when was not even involved in the shooting. What is the coincidence there? The Hearing Conservation Act was working it’s way through Congress.
 
That shooting was orchestrated to suit an agenda of some sort, either more gun control in general or bump stocks specifically. No manifesto, too many details that don’t fit, the laptops with no hard drives the night of the crime but then reported to be loaded with child porn, muzzle flashes from a window below the shooters room. Personally, I think the patsy was dead well before the shooting started.

To expand on Maser’s point about bump stocks, that was not the first target by liberals after the shooting. The very next morning I believe Schumer jumped on the evils of silencers, when was not even involved in the shooting. What is the coincidence there? The Hearing Conservation Act was working it’s way through Congress.

Not to mention all the people that mysteriously disappeared and then reappeared in this and even some who were speaking out who just suddenly died or wound up dead. There is way too many oddities in this event for it not to be associated with something. None of it makes sense and my gut tells that there is something awry here. It never lies. Someone paid and helped orchestrate this event. There is zero way this dude just flew off the handle and did this in this manner. Sorry,not buying any of it.
 
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I think the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

A Bozo with lots of money went KOOKOO for Cocoa puffs, get a harebrained idea, spent a bunch on stuff even he didn't really understand, and the media, as usual, wrote their own narrative solely for the purpose of bolstering their own agenda.

More than that...?
 
I think the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

A Bozo with lots of money went KOOKOO for Cocoa puffs, get a harebrained idea, spent a bunch on stuff even he didn't really understand, and the media, as usual, wrote their own narrative solely for the purpose of bolstering their own agenda.

More than that...?
I would say, yes. More than that. Go over the timeline of when the security guard first encountered him. Consider the pictures of the room. All the mags neatly stacked nowhere near the windows but guns scattered around. All those trips he made to get it all to his room. That's a lot of risks to take when one trip would do. All the accounts of shooting coming from more than one location. The disappearance and reappearance of witnesses. A guy could go on and on. One or two odd things I can put off as "it could happen" all the shit put together? I highly doubt it.
 
I think the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

A Bozo with lots of money went KOOKOO for Cocoa puffs, get a harebrained idea, spent a bunch on stuff even he didn't really understand, and the media, as usual, wrote their own narrative solely for the purpose of bolstering their own agenda.

More than that...?

What you stated is what the MSM wants everyone to accept, believe and repeat. Way too many incongruities for that to be the entire story.
 
I would say, yes. More than that. Go over the timeline of when the security guard first encountered him. Consider the pictures of the room. All the mags neatly stacked nowhere near the windows but guns scattered around. All those trips he made to get it all to his room. That's a lot of risks to take when one trip would do. All the accounts of shooting coming from more than one location. The disappearance and reappearance of witnesses. A guy could go on and on. One or two odd things I can put off as "it could happen" all the shit put together? I highly doubt it.

There was no risk in all those trips. He wasn't doing anything wrong yet. Building conspiracy theories based on a few crime scene photos and a few timelines, while never having access to the majority of the evidence, then assuming you have out all figured out seems naive. One thing is for sure, the more complicated it is, the less likely it could be covered up. I bet you maybe %1 of Kennedy conspiracy believers have ever even thumbed a page of the mountain of evidence laid out in the The Warren Report. Nope, doesn't fit their own narrative.
 
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If he was planning on doing something illegal then every one of those trips was a risk. A risk to raise suspicions and to get on some securities radar. If he wasn't planning on doing anything illegal then the only risk he ran was getting on some securities radar. You don't think if somehow on one of his trips that something was seen, like a pile of mags or even a single rifle nothing would have changed? He might have changed his timeline or might not have done anything at all. We'll never know.

All I'm saying is that, to me, it doesn't pass the sniff test.
 
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There was no risk in all those trips. He wasn't doing anything wrong yet. Building conspiracy theories based on a few crime scene photos and a few timelines, while never having access to the majority of the evidence, then assuming you have out all figured out seems naive. One thing is for sure, the more complicated it is, the less likely it could be covered up. I bet you maybe %1 of Kennedy conspiracy believers have ever even thumbed a page of the mountain of evidence laid out in the The Warren Report. Nope, doesn't fit their own narrative.

There are three ways to look at occurances like this:

Listen only to the MSM and draw conclusions

Be a conspiracy nut and draw conclusions

Take in as much info from as many sources as possible and draw conclusions

If you do the last option then the whole thing smells fishy.
 
Bump fire stocks aren’t that easy to become proficient with so IF he had practiced enough to make those rifles run like sewing machines then someone would have known that he was shooup a storm. His brother didn’t even know he had guns.
Fast and Furious was a government plot to enhance Obama’s ability to pass stricter gun laws, and it backfired, so it’s not that much of a stretch to believe this is an anti gun ploy by some part of our government.
 
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There are three ways to look at occurances like this:

Listen only to the MSM and draw conclusions

Be a conspiracy nut and draw conclusions

Take in as much info from as many sources as possible and draw conclusions

If you do the last option then the whole thing smells fishy.

If you only draw from credible sources, and use your own common sense, it may or may not. Either way, you are looking at a big picture through a very small peep hole.
 
If you only draw from credible sources, and use your own common sense, it may or may not. Either way, you are looking at a big picture through a very small peep hole.
Who defines credible sources? It is the MSM? You believe whatever you want and draw whatever conclusions you prefer.
 
If he was planning on doing something illegal then every one of those trips was a risk. A risk to raise suspicions and to get on some securities radar. If he wasn't planning on doing anything illegal then the only risk he ran was getting on some securities radar. You don't think if somehow on one of his trips that something was seen, like a pile of mags or even a single rifle nothing would have changed? He might have changed his timeline or might not have done anything at all. We'll never know.

All I'm saying is that, to me, it doesn't pass the sniff test.

No, I don't. People take guns to Vegas all the time. i would not go without one. He was in a hotel with 3200 rooms and 7400 staff members. Even if he was on someones radar, no way they thought he was planning to do what he did. And if he was on their radar, no way would they want to admit it. Because the captain hind sight club would be all over them like stink on shit.
 
No, I don't. People take guns to Vegas all the time. i would not go without one. He was in a hotel with 3200 rooms and 7400 staff members. Even if he was on someones radar, no way they thought he was planning to do what he did. And if he was on their radar, no way would they want to admit it. Because the captain hind sight club would be all over them like stink on shit.

To your comment about being on someone radar - it was reported yesterday on a local news channel that the shooter had spent $100K on guns and ammo. Anyone that does that is on someone’s radar and they are being watched.

What it boils down to is that everyone has their own opinions and posts on this board won’t change most minds.
 
Who defines credible sources? It is the MSM? You believe whatever you want and draw whatever conclusions you prefer.

I would define no sources as credible, as they all built their narratives on hearsay with little to no access to the evidence. I have spoken in no direction about what I think happened because like everyone else here. I have only a very shady idea. i know what i want to believe because it fits my narrative but that doesn't make it true.
 
To your comment about being on someone radar - it was reported yesterday on a local news channel that the shooter had spent $100K on guns and ammo. Anyone that does that is on someone’s radar and they are being watched.

What it boils down to is that everyone has their own opinions and posts on this board won’t change most minds.

Please expand. I am not making connections between what you are saying and what I said. Or why the hotel would know he bought ammo? Or how it pertains to how many trips he made moving legal items to his hotel room? Please explain.
 
Please expand. I am not making connections between what you are saying and what I said. Or why the hotel would know he bought ammo? Or how it pertains to how many trips he made moving legal items to his hotel room? Please explain.

Sorry if I made things confusing but I was not linking the $100K of purchases to the hotel. My comment was purely about spending that much on guns and ammo and not being on a radar. I agree about all the trips in and out of the hotel. The staff probably thought “Damn his wife has a lot of luggage!”.
 
As much as we are watched on a daily basis spending that much on guns and ammo has to throw a red flag.

It doesn't.....

One collector buying a full auto collection from an estate spends way more than that and nobody bats an eye.

Hood rats carry out cases of ammo from gun shows and even identifed, reported, and documented, nobody does shit...

Local LE hands ATFE completed cases and they are ignored....

If dickhead had spent that much in one place at one time, maybe. But over a year, no way.
And even if he did multiple purchases and the ffl reported it, with no record or flags, no action.....
 
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It doesn't.....

One collector buying a full auto collection from an estate spends way more than that and nobody bats an eye.

Hood rats carry out cases of ammo from gun shows and even identifed, reported, and documented, nobody does shit...

Local LE hands ATFE completed cases and they are ignored....

If dickhead had spent that much in one place at one time, maybe. But over a year, no way.
And even if he did multiple purchases and the ffl reported it, with no record or flags, no action.....

I hope you are right and it could be my sliver of paranoia showing.
 
Everyone has a little bit of paranoia, it's part of the self defensive reflexes we are born with. A little is a good thing and goes a long way, but it has very real limits and it's taken far too seriously by far too many people.

If that were just all their faults, I'd be silent, but the agitators in our society keep throwing the gasoline into the flames. It's part and parcel of their basic mantra, and when so many people spend so much time and effort on such a stupid thing, there has to be money in it somewhere, and not for the paranoids. Smoke, mirrors, and something else...

Figure out the money/payoff part, and the rest gets easier.

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The one part of that story that makes zero sense is...What the hell was the crown prince doing in the Tropicana? That is one of the oldest, nastiest dives on the entire strip. The only one worse is CircusCircus.

Ancient alien theorist agree, it could have been him.....:eek: Or possibly even,... someone else. And if it was him, what was he doing there?????:eek::oops::ROFLMAO:

Maybe, if you find it unlikely the crown prince was at a seedy casino, the simpler answer is; its not the crown prince?
 
That shooting was orchestrated to suit an agenda of some sort, either more gun control in general or bump stocks specifically. No manifesto, too many details that don’t fit, the laptops with no hard drives the night of the crime but then reported to be loaded with child porn, muzzle flashes from a window below the shooters room. Personally, I think the patsy was dead well before the shooting started.

To expand on Maser’s point about bump stocks, that was not the first target by liberals after the shooting. The very next morning I believe Schumer jumped on the evils of silencers, when was not even involved in the shooting. What is the coincidence there? The Hearing Conservation Act was working it’s way through Congress.

Havent read the whole thread to see if someone else mentioned it, but the HPA was all but passed right before the shooting, and Paul Ryan shelved it immediately.
 
Havent read the whole thread to see if someone else mentioned it, but the HPA was all but passed right before the shooting, and Paul Ryan shelved it immediately.

If some fuck is that sick to create 6-700 casualties for political purposes this needs to see light.

Too much disaster in that for my mind to grasp it.
 
If some fuck is that sick to create 6-700 casualties for political purposes this needs to see light.

Too much disaster in that for my mind to grasp it.

Might be my paranoia again, or my perspective fitting my narrative BUT I noticed something interesting during Clinton's first term. While Hillbilly was president there were a large number of gun laws proposed and a lot were defeated. Interestingly, it started to seem like mass shootings started occuring either right before or right after a critical gun control bill was voted on. Again, could be my perspective, MSM giving the shootings more air time or something really happening.

The morning after the Vegas shooting a top ranking Demokrat said in a press conference "What would have happened if the shooter has been using a supressor?". That politician could have been taking advantage of an opportunity, assuming no conspiracy, and the HPA died on the vine soon afterwards.
 
Trump still hadnt had enough on his Presidential resume at that point and the Swamp was still in full operation.

Not like Eddie Munster was going to fight for the HPA.

It was an easy way to kill something the weak and unwilling were not actually looking to do.
 
Trump still hadnt had enough on his Presidential resume at that point and the Swamp was still in full operation.

Not like Eddie Munster was going to fight for the HPA.

It was an easy way to kill something the weak and unwilling were not actually looking to do.

I am sure you are right but sometimes my paranoia rears its head.
 
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If you guys don't see that this is a clear case of Hillary Clinton trying to manipulate public opinion by utilizing her deep state ties and white privilege then you are as smart as I am beautiful.