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This Jefferson County hog hunter lost 3 pints of blood after a boar repeatedly gored him with 4-inch tusks.

By Elizabeth Billips
Posted Wednesday July 29 2009, 3:35 PM

It was his last cartridge and his last hope. The 192-lb. wild boar had already gored Dr. Joseph “Larry” Jackson Sr. twice and had him right where it wanted him.

It had all happened in a whirlwind... the quick tremble of leaves in the thicket, the scrape of tusks and teeth against his rifle. Dr. Jackson chambered his last round, knowing a movement too quick would probably be his last. Blood was already puddling around him.

The hog locked its eyes on the downed physician and lowered its head to strike again.

The Fourth of July had actually started off nicely for the 64-year-old Waynesboro physician. It was just after sunrise when he and hunting buddy John “J.R.” Rountree spotted the big black hog inside a pasture at Old Town Plantation in Jefferson County.

Dr. Jackson took a 350-yard shot and heard the .243 bullet hit, but it missed the heart by an inch. The hog ran along a fence line and out of sight. J.R. went for the truck while Dr. Jackson took off through the pasture on foot.

Meanwhile, the bullet-hit hog was hunkered down in a thicket no bigger than a compact car. When the doctor came into sight, the boar charged Dr. Jackson.

“I fired from my hip and just missed,” Dr. Jackson recalled from the leather recliner in his living room. “He took my feet out from under me and was on top of me.”

The hog backed off and charged again, this time burying a tusk in the doctor’s arm. He used his Remington .243 as a club and managed to hold back the hog’s head as it drove into him again and again. A pair of binoculars blocked a blow to his gut.

“These saved me from having my belly ripped open,” he said, running a finger along scrapes above the lenses.

When the hog backed off again, he knew it was his last chance.

“I didn’t want to make any quick, sudden motions,” Dr. Jackson explained, remembering how the hog stared straight at him as he reloaded his rifle and eased the barrel around.

As the boar lowered his head to attack again, Dr. Jackson squeezed a point-blank shot into its chest.

“I never felt any pain, and I was never afraid,” he said. “I was just trying to fight for my life.”

As the boar went down, the doctor realized how badly he was hurt.

“I could see I was spurting blood, so I knew I had a problem,” he recalled.

He used his good hand to keep pressure on the gash until J.R. arrived with the truck.

“I lost 3 pints right there on the ground… another three minutes and I would have been dead.”

J.R. heard the shots but didn’t suspect trouble until he rounded the bend.

“J.R. knew something was wrong then,” Dr. Jackson said, noting the whole attack was over and done within minutes. “He said he’d never seen a hunter and hog on the ground at the same time.”

J.R. rushed Dr. Jackson to the emergency room in Jefferson County where they learned the hog’s tusk had severed the artery in his wrist and sliced through three tendons. Unbeknownst to the doctor, the boar’s tusk had also pushed through his boot and severed his calf muscle.

“It looked like a cherry bomb went off in there,” he said, glancing at his thickly bandaged leg.

It took orthopedic and vascular surgeons at University Hospital in Augusta nearly four hours to repair the damages.

Dr. Jackson hobbled to his gun safe and pulled out his Remington.

“It was a fight to the death,” he said, pointing to the bite marks and gouges along the barrel. “One of us wasn’t coming out of there alive.”

He returned to his recliner, sporting a deep tan and athletic shorts. He looked himself, despite the cuts and lumps and the perfect purple hoof mark imprinted in his thigh.

He said J.R. returned for the hog and will soon deliver packages of bacon, sausage and cubed steak. There will be a skull mount arriving soon, too, complete with the razor teeth and 4-inch tusks that came so close to taking his life.

Dr. Jackson pointed to the wall where it will likely hang and recalled the flash of black-and-white stripe across the boar’s shoulder.

“I will always remember that pink eye staring right at me,” he said.

The incident won’t discourage Dr. Jackson from returning to the woods. Just as soon as his body will let him, he’ll be back at it looking for some more bacon and sausage.

Editor’s Note: Elizabeth Billips is the associate editor at The True Citizen in


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Re: Hog Hunter loses 3 pints of blood

Wow, good story! When going after hogs, have enough gun, and be ready for a charge when walking up to them. They don't mess around. And +1 on having a side arm as well. I wonder what bullet he was using. Missing the heart by an inch should have done this hog in.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I wonder what bullet he was using. Missing the heart by an inch should have done this hog in. </div></div>

knowing most hunters, they are shooting whatever was on sale at Wal-Mart or the local gun store.
 
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Good thing Texas did away with the stupid 5-round mag law....wooo, go AK, hog be damned! 30 rounds of inaccurate hot lead
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Thats a perfect reason to carry something bigger than a 243 when hog hunting. You at least want something big enough to knock them down loaded with barnes bullets or heavy jacketed bullets and preferably bigger than 6.5mm.

About the smallest thing I want to carry in the woods hunting hogs is a 308 loaded with either barnes bullets or 220 gr prohunters. The 220 gr prohunters is for deep woods.

I really prefer my 338/284 loaded with 210 gr barnes TTSX or 250 gr game kings but the 308 is more of an all around rifle.

Best Hog acrobatics I have been able to attain were due to a 375 ruger and 270 grain barnes bullets at about 2750.

357 magnum is a good idea, but again got to be barnes bullets so you get some serious penetration.

The massive hydraulic shock and broken bones is what you want if you are in trouble.

I read an article about a guy that trapped a 400-500# hog, the thing nearly got out and he unloaded on it with a 357 magnum and it kept on coming. 3 shots later he was so mad he broke his tusk off on the rebar of the cage trying to get out, and one of the shots was a head shot.

I carry a 44 magnum for a backup.
 
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I always like to wait atleast 15 minutes before I approach an animal that I have shot. Sounds like the doctor chased an injured animal into the brush.
 
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This is why I called bullshit on .223 being enough gun. 20 rounds of semi .308 all the way with a saiga 12 with 12 slugs as SHTF backup. FN 5.7 as sidearm JIC. It's better to have em and not need em, than to need em and not have em! Snake boots would have saved his calf as well...
 
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Here in Australia i dont use anything smaler than a 6.5X55 and have had people use a 243 with light projectiles get into similar pradiciments. A 243 or 6mm rem with a 105gr Round nose is the absoulte smalest calibre i have used i have seen people use 223's and the big bores get realy angry.

As stated for large bores a 308 is a good minimum but a 270 or 280rem have similar performance. I use a 7mm SAUM and they work realy well some big bores have heavy encrusted mud on their shoulders and it is like they have armour plating on them.

But if you use a heavy conventional projectile like a sierra or speer projectile if it penetrates the skin they drop on the spot. others like to use 45-70's and i have also used 375H&H and 416 rigby's they just smash them into the ground.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: silverphoenix</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is why I called bullshit on .223 being enough gun. 20 rounds of semi .308 all the way with a saiga 12 with 12 slugs as SHTF backup. FN 5.7 as sidearm JIC. It's better to have em and not need em, than to need em and not have em! Snake boots would have saved his calf as well... </div></div>

I've shot em with a 7mm mag and 270win also and even those didnt always kill them right away. shot placement is key with 223. I have shot the vast majority of thee hogs I've killed with a 223. However, I don't recommend it for most...
 
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My hunting bud and I use .223 with barnes tsx all the time under 100 yrds. Make a good shot, wait 30 minutes and we haven't had a problem yet. HOWEVER, if one gets out of sight, we never go after it without both taking shotguns with buckshot and when my 10yr old goes, he AWLAYS stays in the blind. Thats the rules!
My bud's brother in law was chased up a tree once. Funny now but I'm sure it wasn't at the time.
Oh, we were eating pulled pork rolled in tortillas just last night.

Trilogymac
 
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I had one chase me up a tree last year about this time while I was squirrel hunting. He just stood down at the bottom of the tree, so I took a seat up there and proceeded to put 20 rounds in him with my 10/22. Just for good measure, right?

Then I went hunting with dogs. Yep, f--- a gun, I'll bring a few mean ass pits and cur dogs when I'm looking for hogs.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: huntingohio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ouch makes me wish there were boars in ohio. Its not that fun to hunt stuff that cant kill you easily </div></div>

They will be up there soon.
 
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hunter223I've shot em with a 7mm mag and 270win also and even those didnt always kill them right away. shot placement is key with 223. I have shot the vast majority of thee hogs I've killed with a 223. However said:
There is no other better bullet for hogs that barnes bullets.
They are expensive but worth it.

I have found that with barnes bullets in the 277 and up range especially, preferably the tipped version, if you hit them anywhere in the body cavity they will get a massive hydraulic shock. They probably die of a heart attack, but not sure. I have read that it basically liquifies the organs to some degree.

A while back, I made a really bad shot on a 150# hog with a 6.8 spc, 110 gr tipped TSX, loaded at about 2600. Worst shot placement ever, bottom of the stomach. I knew it was a bad shot. It was running and my scope was off. Just as I shot it ran into the edge of the woods and dissapeared.

I figured, well its gone, but no it was laying 20 yards down in the woods DOA. I hit about 1.5" from the bottom of the stomach or basically almost grazed it.

I had hunted hogs with the tipped TSX and my 338, with great results, but I was shocked by the 110 grainers effectiveness.

Since then my dad has also gotten a 6.8 spc mini and he continues to hunt with it today. He is 88YO and loves it and is sold on barnes bullets.

I dont have my 6.8 spc AR15 any more and now use mostly a 308 or a 338.

That said we killed probably about 20-25 hogs with that 6.8 round and none of them ran over 20 yards and that is a very light bullet for hogs, but hits them like a sledge hammer.

We have never had even one hit hog get away much less last more than about 5-10 seconds on his feet. Some drop in their tracks. They all DOA within about 30 seconds max with one shot.

Now I can compare this to several other rounds/ammo I have shot hogs with.

6.8 SPC match rounds. I ran out of TSX ammo one trip. Shot a hog about 6 times, chased it into the woods about 80 yards and finally got it. It was still alive and kicking shot it in the head.

6.5 grendel, normal 120 gr bullets, unloaded about 3-4 shots on a hog running and it finally dropped. Still alive and kicking and finished it off with a head shot.

Several others, shotgun with buckshot, 270, 308 with normal bullets, they might go down eventually they might not. 270 with normal ammo was the best of that bunch.

Thought the 95 gr nosler would be a good 243 load for hogs, since my dad has 2 243s. Shoot them in the body and they just run off. Another head or neck shot round.

Same with 223 unless you hit them in the head or neck. Just not enough bullet.

They are seriously tough creatures. I have even read that on the huge hogs, the 1" thick sheild around there vitals will stop a 12 ga slug or a 45 cal bullet from a 45-70, and I have a hard time believing that about a 45-70. I guess if it was a soft lead slug it could flatten out.

I pretty much load everything with barnes tipped TSX bullets now for hogs. The only normal bullets I use are 220 gr prohunters in 308 or 250 gr gamekings in 338.

Barnes 200 gr XPB for my 44 mag on top of lilgun. That bullet opens up to about an inch in diameter.

Expensive but with it if you want to stop a big boar.

There is a 500 +++ pounder up where I hunt. He has a 4" square track but nobody has seen him except one guy. He dropped his shotgun and went up a tree and the beast kept him up there for about 2 hours. He said he was massive with about 4-5" long tusks.

I guess that would be the ultimate test of a 308 loaded with a TSX bullet. Then again maybe I should break out the 338 for that one.
 
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I kill every one of the bastards I see--my hunting partner was out checking fences a couple years ago and got charged by a big boar for apparently no reason. He jumped into the bed of his truck a split second before the boar hit him and that thing left the biggest dent in the side of that truck you could imagine. I thought it was from a wreck until he explained that to me... They're very vicious critters.

I use the federal 180 grain .308's--they're not nearly as good as barnes, but they're cheap and they work well for shooting a ton of pigs. I always get into arguments with people over the .223 being good enough for pigs because they always want to hunt them with ar-15's, but the main worry is this: boar rarely stay still and they're extremely aggressive. You can't always make a good shot, and even when you do, the .223 simply does not kill them dead on site. It usually takes a while--hell you can kill one with a .22 if you shoot it enough times and don't mind waiting. The worry is the time in which the hog goes down and consistency in them going down in that amount of time. .308 is usually a quick kill, with me rarely having to shoot twice. It really depends on the size of the hog because if I came across a hogzilla, who knows how many rounds I might have to put in him. I love 1 round per hog, but unfortunately you're always going to have one or two abnormally tough bastards in the bunch. It's key to take them down ASAP if you shoot them at short ranges or plan even going near where they are that day and that's why I use .308. You do not want a pissed off hog being shot with .223 having 30 minutes to live and tearing your ass up for every one of those minutes...
 
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6.8 SPC with 85 or 110 TSX's or the 110 grain TTSX are the only bullets I use when hog hunting. We stalk up to them on foot, and I have yet to see one hit that did not go down right on the spot.

Safety measures:

1) don't ever go after a downed hog by yourself. If you do, you'd better have one in the chamber and an eotech. You had also better have at least 4 rounds in the mag.

2) .44 mag for sidearm
 
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we hunt hogs with dogs mostly and catch them live , every great once in a while we have to shoot one and its generaly just a realy mad sow that the catch dog can't get a handel on. I know two people who have been cut up from shooting hogs and chasing them , both were shot with 12ga OO buck within 40yds.

I can't imagine getting cut and brought down by a pig and having to go hand to hand with it , at least without a good bulldog firmly attached to the hogs head !!
 
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We raised a few hogs when I was still living with Mom & Dad. I remember a man who lived about a half mile down the road had to have his leg amputated after being bitten by a sow with pigs. If I remember correctly he was trying to doctor the pigs. Clip their tails or give them shots. And they went to squeeling she attacked him. She crushed the bones in his lower leg.

That was a TAME hog. I don't know what facing a wild one that was pi$$ed would be like.
 
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Ive been cut twice over the years and the thing that amazes me the most was the fact that even though the boar cut clean through the bone I didnt feel any pain just the force of the hit. The surgeon that did the reconstructive surgery said he never seen a cleaner cut through bone in all of his years doing that type of work it was so clean it looked as if someone cut through it with a razor.

Through my years of hunting boars ive seen some unbelievable damage they have done. Some things I wouldnt have believed had I not seen it with my own eyes.
 
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Weeeeeell,

"Dr. Jackson took a 350-yard shot and heard the .243 bullet hit,"

There's your problem right there!

Honestly, what was he thinking??

.243 for BOAR? and at 350yds??

He may be a very <span style="font-style: italic">learned</span> man, but he sure isn't a smart one!

In the UK, where engagement distances are invariably shorter, the Home Office (Like your department of the interior I guess) WILL NOT ALLOW you to shoot boar with anything less than .270 Rem, and we're probably talking about taking boar at 100yds in, most typical range would be 20 to 50yds. I asked for 7mm-08 for boar shooting and they turned me down flat. BUT, they did allow me to use my .300WinMag.

Now don't get me wrong, I love my .243, but it is for THIN SKINNED GAME, not a 400lb animal that is built like a tank, and is RENOWNED for it's aggression.

For wild boar, I would want to carry a .45-70 lever action with a reflex sight, for a quick follow up shot, and keep shooting until that Keeler goes down, and DOESN'T get up again.

Just my 0.02, but again, WHAT WAS HE THINKING??

N
 
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Wow. It would seem shooting hogs is just like shooting any other living thing you'd like dead.

Doesn't matter what you shoot it with. ONLY GOOD HITS COUNT.

I bet he could have used a phased plasma cannon and gotten the same results....
 
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I went out on a hunt for hogs about 4 years ago. I took my S&W 460 shooting the Factory Hornady loads. I shot this one at about 75 yards. The first shot took out the top of the heart, the second shot got him in the ass as he turned on me, then the third shot was in the vitals again. It still took this big one about 20 mins on the ground to finaly die. This round realy tore this pig up.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STRICK9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you play with em long enough you gonna pay, been lucky here but the times a comin. </div></div>


I Agree, I feel lucky to come away with what I have considering the scrapes ive been in over the years. To be totally honest though I'd rather get cut than bit anyday I mean ANYDAY that shit hurts bad.


Nice Hog Drumie congrats! Did you mount him? just curious as it looks like youre caping him in the picture.
 
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I was working the 3-11p shift and had a call of a pig in this guys front yard. I arrived and discovered that it was a pot bellied pig. I don't know that much about pigs so i took a leash from my squad car and approched it. I managed to loop it around the head of the hog and after i had it looped around the head thats when i discovered that it had 2" tusk sticking out from both side'd of it mouth. A rope was brough to me and the pig was tied to a tree.

Our Animal Control Officer was already on her way to the scene. I waited util she arrived. She broke out a cage and a collar pole. As she was trying to place that collar pole over the top ot the pigs head it had started slipping the leash and started attacking the pole. I advised the AC to step to the side and placed a well aimed shot to the head of the pig with my Glock 21. The pig dropped and ceased to present and more harm to the officers on scene.

That happened on the Friday The 13th and today I discove this article on the good Doctor. I'm glad no one got hurt and we all went home that nite.
 
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Ive probably hunted and shot hundreds of wild boar over the last 15 years or so. Using a variety of different calibers, I once shot a boar with a .243 in the head, but i wouldn't have used the .243 for any other shot. If it comes to long range boar, I would certainly say that something a bit more powerfull would be the order of the day. For close range work i had a lot of sucess with the .450 Marlin. I certainly noticed the difference in effect between a .308win and a .30-06, the 06 has just the power edge to make it noticably drop pigs quicker. The ultimate European Boar bagging round seems to be the venerable 9.3x62, and indeed i have used this to great effect also.
In the search for the ultimte Boar cartridge and wanting a newer if not better mouse trap i started wildcating using 9.3 bullets.and have created several wild cats using these. Ive only had chance to use the one of my wildcats to date and have been having great success with it on boar, the 9.3x300WSM wildcat is a very effective round, and at the mo i'm in the process of having it CIP listed.

Ive been using 286gr Nosler Partitions, 285gr Normal Oryx, and
190gr Jaguar bullets, but have only shot boar with the Partitions and Oryx bullets to date. All 3 bullets with the right load have turned in sub 1/2 MOA groups consistently at the range, infact the Jaguar bullets have proved to be exceptionaly accurate, but shoot to a different point of aim. The Nosler and Norma bullets shoot to exactly the same point of aim in my rifle, which is a bonus,.

To date, every boar ive shot with the 9.3wildcat has dropped on the spot. But there have been others perviouse that have taken off. there will be a day again when i get a runner. Boar can be tough tennatious creatures, and when cornered or wounded they can be dangerous, Ive followed my share of wounded boar into the thickets and stopped a few charges with a .38special +P or the .450M guide gun. Correct shot placement and enough power behind the right heavy bullet go a long way towards preventing any mishaps.

6.5mm is the legal lower limit here, although i heared yesterday that some states are dropping the limit to .223 for piglets.

I'll be sticking to my 9.3 thanks..

this was yesterday, little hog, 40kg, and a Roe, then the mornings bag layed out, taken on a driven hunt near Hammeln, Germany.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: POPEYECOP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I was working the 3-11p shift and had a call of a pig in this guys front yard. I arrived and discovered that it was a pot bellied pig. I don't know that much about pigs so i took a leash from my squad car and approched it. I managed to loop it around the head of the hog and after i had it looped around the head thats when i discovered that it had 2" tusk sticking out from both side'd of it mouth. A rope was brough to me and the pig was tied to a tree.

Our Animal Control Officer was already on her way to the scene. I waited util she arrived. She broke out a cage and a collar pole. As she was trying to place that collar pole over the top ot the pigs head it had started slipping the leash and started attacking the pole. I advised the AC to step to the side and placed a well aimed shot to the head of the pig with my Glock 21. The pig dropped and ceased to present and more harm to the officers on scene.

That happened on the Friday The 13th and today I discove this article on the good Doctor. I'm glad no one got hurt and we all went home that nite. </div></div>

That shows common sence on your behalf. over here in new zealand the police tried to shoot an out of control dog and it took 21 shots. the dog walked away unshcathed. and not long ago they had to put down a cow that escaped from a trailer transport. 5 shots to the stomach and it was still running around
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paduan Learner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Weeeeeell,

"Dr. Jackson took a 350-yard shot and heard the .243 bullet hit,"

There's your problem right there!

Honestly, what was he thinking??

.243 for BOAR? and at 350yds??

He may be a very <span style="font-style: italic">learned</span> man, but he sure isn't a smart one!

In the UK, where engagement distances are invariably shorter, the Home Office (Like your department of the interior I guess) WILL NOT ALLOW you to shoot boar with anything less than .270 Rem, and we're probably talking about taking boar at 100yds in, most typical range would be 20 to 50yds. I asked for 7mm-08 for boar shooting and they turned me down flat. BUT, they did allow me to use my .300WinMag.

Now don't get me wrong, I love my .243, but it is for THIN SKINNED GAME, not a 400lb animal that is built like a tank, and is RENOWNED for it's aggression.

For wild boar, I would want to carry a .45-70 lever action with a reflex sight, for a quick follow up shot, and keep shooting until that Keeler goes down, and DOESN'T get up again.

Just my 0.02, but again, WHAT WAS HE THINKING??

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Yeah, I'd agree with that statement. Especially Georgia hogs.