Greetings - I'm new to this stuff. I joined a gun club in NJ, to shoot my pistols, and found out they have a 300 meter rifle range. So, I went and purchased a Remington 700 in .308. Now I need to purchase some optics. So here is my conundrum - I have read hundreds of pages on optics and I am more confused than when I started. I need a scope that will work well from about 25 yards to 300 yards. Looking to spend under $1000. I called Remington and they recommended Leupold - which I know is a fine company. (They also make a great pistol scope for my .460). So, what do you think? I will not be hunting with this gun, only target shooting. Thanks, Andy
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Rifle Scopes Holy Smokes - noob needs some help with Remington
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Re: Holy Smokes - noob needs some help with Remington
explain what you are cornfused about since reading hundreds of pages
explain what you are cornfused about since reading hundreds of pages
Re: Holy Smokes - noob needs some help with Remington
Question 1 - if you buy a Leupold Scope, should you also purchase their rings or would you purchase someone elses?
2. Is there a specific magnification that is good for 25 to 300 yards?
3. Knowing that Zeiss and Leupold make good stuff - would you look at other company's offerings (Nightforce, etc.)
4. I assume I should stick with scopes designed for target shooting and not hunting.
Question 1 - if you buy a Leupold Scope, should you also purchase their rings or would you purchase someone elses?
2. Is there a specific magnification that is good for 25 to 300 yards?
3. Knowing that Zeiss and Leupold make good stuff - would you look at other company's offerings (Nightforce, etc.)
4. I assume I should stick with scopes designed for target shooting and not hunting.
Re: Holy Smokes - noob needs some help with Remington
Veritas, a Sightron 6-24 SIII, with a simple dot reticle and moa turrets. This is a good quality scope that will work for target sbooting and might be a good place to start. Lots of quality rings and bases out there, buy good quality once and be done with it.
Veritas, a Sightron 6-24 SIII, with a simple dot reticle and moa turrets. This is a good quality scope that will work for target sbooting and might be a good place to start. Lots of quality rings and bases out there, buy good quality once and be done with it.
Re: Holy Smokes - noob needs some help with Remington
Based on question 3, I'm skeptical you've read <span style="font-weight: bold">hundreds</span> of pages on this forum regarding scope selection. It's ok, and here are my answers:
1- Ring manufacturer doesn't matter as much as quality. Badger Ordnance, Seekins Precision, and other high quality manufacturers will be more than adequate for whatever scope you choose. Just be sure tube size is the same! Keep in mind that you also get what you pay for.
2- No. It's all personal preference. Some will say an Aimpoint while others will suggest a 2.5-10x or 4-16x. It all depends on what you want. I personally have a 2.5-10x44 PST on my SPR AR15.
3- Nightforce (used), Vortex PST, Bushnell HDMR (used), IOR Valdada are all good scopes in your price range or just above.
4- I would say yes as most hunting scopes' reticles suck in the realm of ranging. Look at the EBR reticles from Vortex, NPR and MLR reticles from NF, Horus, and MP8s. All of these reticles help in ranging and hold overs once you learn how to use them.
My Questions to You:
1- Is 1000 your scope budget or scope/rings/base budget?
2- Do you have any interest in doing competitions later?
Based on question 3, I'm skeptical you've read <span style="font-weight: bold">hundreds</span> of pages on this forum regarding scope selection. It's ok, and here are my answers:
1- Ring manufacturer doesn't matter as much as quality. Badger Ordnance, Seekins Precision, and other high quality manufacturers will be more than adequate for whatever scope you choose. Just be sure tube size is the same! Keep in mind that you also get what you pay for.
2- No. It's all personal preference. Some will say an Aimpoint while others will suggest a 2.5-10x or 4-16x. It all depends on what you want. I personally have a 2.5-10x44 PST on my SPR AR15.
3- Nightforce (used), Vortex PST, Bushnell HDMR (used), IOR Valdada are all good scopes in your price range or just above.
4- I would say yes as most hunting scopes' reticles suck in the realm of ranging. Look at the EBR reticles from Vortex, NPR and MLR reticles from NF, Horus, and MP8s. All of these reticles help in ranging and hold overs once you learn how to use them.
My Questions to You:
1- Is 1000 your scope budget or scope/rings/base budget?
2- Do you have any interest in doing competitions later?
Re: Holy Smokes - noob needs some help with Remington
OK, let me clear your head from all these ^ noob answers.
You are shooting to 300M. A less expensive SWFA 10x42 will work great for you. If you want to spend more, look at the used US Optics that may be under $1k, the used NF's that may be under $1k, and the NEW SWFA HD SS's.
Rings: Seekins, Badger, TPS, US Optics, are all in teh $150 ballpark cost, and all are darn good. Look at some of the other less expensive stuff from Ken ferrel, his stuff is less costly that the otheres and pretty darn good for range use and entry level competition use.
Stocks: McMillan, Manners, and a few others. The iportant part is mounting everything at the same torque(YOU NEED a inch pound torque wrench)
If you want to get into competition and have reliable equipment from teh start, I would recommend calling up CHris or one of the other fine reps at SWFA and considering a SWFA SS HD, and their recommended rings, mounts and hardware. They can even make you a package deal, BUT you will want to insure you save a little more than $1k just oin case you decide to 'go bigger' after you talk to them. IF you want to spend a little more, and are willing to allow for a greater budget and waiting time, contact the crew at US Optics and ask a buinch of questions and see what they tell you. Here you will get long term reliability and really tough equipment. Now tough doesn't mean you can't break it because as a Soldier, well I broke stuff, but that was in the line of duty doing stuff you probably won't be doing.
All I am saying is make a few phone calls, write some emails, talk to the company's and get your information direct. You may well be suprised with the results.
OK, let me clear your head from all these ^ noob answers.
You are shooting to 300M. A less expensive SWFA 10x42 will work great for you. If you want to spend more, look at the used US Optics that may be under $1k, the used NF's that may be under $1k, and the NEW SWFA HD SS's.
Rings: Seekins, Badger, TPS, US Optics, are all in teh $150 ballpark cost, and all are darn good. Look at some of the other less expensive stuff from Ken ferrel, his stuff is less costly that the otheres and pretty darn good for range use and entry level competition use.
Stocks: McMillan, Manners, and a few others. The iportant part is mounting everything at the same torque(YOU NEED a inch pound torque wrench)
If you want to get into competition and have reliable equipment from teh start, I would recommend calling up CHris or one of the other fine reps at SWFA and considering a SWFA SS HD, and their recommended rings, mounts and hardware. They can even make you a package deal, BUT you will want to insure you save a little more than $1k just oin case you decide to 'go bigger' after you talk to them. IF you want to spend a little more, and are willing to allow for a greater budget and waiting time, contact the crew at US Optics and ask a buinch of questions and see what they tell you. Here you will get long term reliability and really tough equipment. Now tough doesn't mean you can't break it because as a Soldier, well I broke stuff, but that was in the line of duty doing stuff you probably won't be doing.
All I am saying is make a few phone calls, write some emails, talk to the company's and get your information direct. You may well be suprised with the results.
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