How about some real accuracy reports out of the Fix by Q...

[jbell]

So there is a LOT of chatter on the interwebs about this rifle, and rightfully so. But what I am not seeing (maybe b/c I am not looking in the right places) is any feedback from owners with a lot of rounds through their Fix after some good load development. Are these rifles just not accurate enough for people to be talking about or are they too light and therefore too difficult to shoot accurately?

I would love to spend some time behind one and see what it is really capable of, but I don't have access to one short of placing an order. Who has worked up some loads for their Fix, and how was it to tune? Are they forgiving or are they picky about loads?

How are they to shoot? I know they are light and that is a big draw to them, but does that make them hard to steer? How do they behave on a square range prone off a bipod? How about when shooting in the field both off a bipod, tripod elevated positions, and unsupported? You know where I am going with this...

Also how do these rifles cycle when running them hard and fast, especially when shooting the Creed? Has anyone chambered one in 6.5X47 and if so how is it?

I live a few hours from Q and may try to get down there to check them out for myself, but I appreciate any info yall may have, good bad or indifferent.

 

[tinytigers]

It’s accurate. Every group I’ve put on paper has been 1/2” or less, with factory or hand loads. I’m not a very serious reloader but I had no issues making a good load with 143s. As far as shooting in the field, I’ve taken it on a sheep hunt and a handful of coyote stands and it’s done better than anything else I’ve shot. Taking quick follow up shots is great with the short bolt throw, and with the action on rails it is extremely smooth. I don’t shoot in competitions or anything, but I’ve put about 800 rounds through mine and absolutely love it, and I’d be happy to answer any more questions you have. There’s also a ton of good info on the other thread here, just might have to do some digging.

 

[steve123]

I'm concerned with the heavy bolt lift issue some owners are griping about. I hate a heavy bolt lift!

 

[jbell]

But it seems that is being resolved, isn’t it??

 

[steve123]

I hope so ???!!!

 

[jbell]

Anyone else with reports?

 

[jbell]

Also interested in POI shifts barrel on to barrel off?

 

[newguy2k3v2]

I didn't really do much load development with mine. The first 50 through it I ran the same h4350/140amax load as my SRS. It shot the same 1/2moa or better.

Worked up the go to load for this gun with the same charge and 143eld-x instead. Only tweaked seating depth a bit. It does throw a few flyers at distance but I'm thinking that's the eld-x bullet because it didn't with amax.

The bolt lift is a bit heavy sometimes like the round was overpressure. It's not a big enough issue that I've contacted q about it. It does have the tightest chamber of any of my creedmoors so that may be part of it. I'm waiting for a ball end bolt handle which I think will be an improvement for me.

I like the hell out of the rifle. If I had to sell everything it would be one of the last.

 

[JeffLebowski]

I'm concerned with the heavy bolt lift issue some owners are griping about. I hate a heavy bolt lift!

Multiple reports of this being fixed quickly by Q in the mega Fix thread.

 

[Akdodge88]

I'm concerned with the heavy bolt lift issue some owners are griping about. I hate a heavy bolt lift!

I’ve got about 600-700 rounds through mine so far. Only problem I had with a heavy bolt lift, which also included a problem extracting the shell, was with one particular ammo made by Rainier Munitions which were reloads. All other factory ammo has shot flawlessly.
I primarily shoot mine with a suppressor on it, and with the .308 barrel installed the gun doesn’t hop around at all on the bench or prone with the bipod. Now changing to the proof 6.5cm barrel and the same suppressor, the front end definitely seems to move around, could be mostly me not managing recoil, but laying prone with the bipod secured to my shooting mat, it’s a tac-driver.
I am not a reloader, yet, so I cannot comment on developing a load. I can say that even shooting the cheap American Eagle 6.5cm ammo, it still shoots sub-MOA. I can get 4 rounds touching at 100yds and keep them within 1.5” at 200yds. Haven’t tried paper beyond 200yds, but even the American eagle can still hit the stee at my range at 500yds.
I have switched my barrel between the .308 and 6.5 about a dozen times, no POI shift. I use the same scope and place it in the same spot every time, just have to adjust elevation for whichever round I’m shooting and it’s dead on every time.
Now, I’m not a competitive shooter so I can’t comment on how I’d think it’d run in matches, but as a hunting rifle I think it’ll be phenomenal. Cycling the bolt quickly took some getting used to, but it is as smooth as butter.
I do wish that the buttpad was a little larger, and maybe softer. Seen rumors that a larger one was in development.
If you live close, I’d reach out and maybe go check them out. I’ve also seen a few dealers in NH regularly get them in stock. Also, if you buy direct from them and ask about building your own, they let you, if you show up with beer.

 

[jbell]

Very good info, thank you!

 

[Frank Green]

Bartlein Barrels will no longer be supplying barrels to Q for the FIX. Whatever Q has in they're remaining inventory will be used up over time. If you have any questions on a Bartlein Barrel that you purchased on your Q rifle please feel free to contact us. All the boys at Bartlein wish Kevin the best.

 

[Kadams1563]

Bartlein Barrels will no longer be supplying barrels to Q for the FIX. Whatever Q has in they're remaining inventory will be used up over time. If you have any questions on a Bartlein Barrel that you purchased on your Q rifle please feel free to contact us. All the boys at Bartlein wish Kevin the best.

Umm that’s kinda weird to just be thrown out there.

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

Weird things happen when weird things happen.

 

[EXTREMEPREJUDICE]

Weird things happen when weird things happen.

Absolutely.................!

 

[Hondo1]

Umm that’s kinda weird to just be thrown out there.

I’m sure Kevin’s charming personality has nothing to do with it.

 

[Bender]

Well then........

 

[mattwaage1]

Back to life! Glad I found the thread.

Fellas at Q say they are not selling barrel wrenches so what are you guys using to change the barrel nut?

Anyhow have a good look at the extension vs like an ar10? There a source for aftermarket barrels/extensions?

I'm bored and need to buy something new soon and this has caught my eye

 

[lvmike]

Back to life! Glad I found the thread.

Fellas at Q say they are not selling barrel wrenches so what are you guys using to change the barrel nut?

Anyhow have a good look at the extension vs like an ar10? There a source for aftermarket barrels/extensions?

I'm bored and need to buy something new soon and this has caught my eye

Wrenches are sold out on their site but thats more a supply issue in general with Q accessories. The extensions and whatever special tool to pull them are what they dont want to sell yet. I remember watching a vid, kitbadgers maybe, where one of their engineers stated they will release them eventually but want to keep the early rifles as high quality as possible and limit selling to only certain smiths.

As for accuracy, I've been having a tough go with mine so far. I had a problem some of the early rifles did where one of the top rail screws is slightly longer then it ought to be and would touch the barrel somewhere over the end of the chamber. I found it because of a post on reddit that some guy had the same issue. It looked like a little crescent moon on the top of the barrel from the screw head. Pulling it and filing it down .010" fixed it. Rifle went from awful to about MOA and I was shocked that such a small contact was so bad for accuracy.. I'm only about 150 rounds in now and have used a H4350 139Scenar recipe that has worked well in a bunch of 1:8 twist tubes but this barrel seems to not like it all that much. Maybe the 1:7... ? Oh well, I picked up some factory hornady 140 and 147 ELD M as a lot of reports of good results have been from those bullets.

Its a shame there might be some folks are too proud to tell the truth but it happens with lots of expensive products so i wouldnt be surprised if some are staying mum so far. As for me, I'm early in my use of the rifle and havent given it full chance at this point,.. so take my experience with a grain of salt. More experimentation and I'm confident I'll get it there.

 

[jbell]

Thank you for the honest update. I am not an expert but a few design aspects of the rifle has be very skeptical of the ability of it to be a true precision rifle. But maybe I am mistaken...

 

[lvmike]

Thank you for the honest update. I am not an expert but a few design aspects of the rifle has be very skeptical of the ability of it to be a true precision rifle. But maybe I am mistaken...

I've tried to learn as much as I could before deciding to buy, which part of the design has you concerned? My impression overall after handling and disassembling the bolt assembly is it is extremely well engineered and machined.

 

[jbell]

Barrel attachment,
I personally would like to see a more robust junction, the action looks a bit "thin" to properly support a heavy barrel. But I have yet to get hands on, so my opinion isn't worth much...

 

[MOUNTIC]

I've put quiet a few rounds through my 16 inch 308 barrel now. Always suppressed. I would say 1 moa is about right with different factory ammo with 5 round groups. Some 3/4 groups but I would say in general they are just a touch under 1moa average. I haven't got near the groups my Cadex and AI guns produce but not expecting it to.

Removing and reinstalling shows no POI change whatsoever. I've verified first round hits after barrel install at 700.

Super happy with the gun in 16 inch 308 configuration. It really shines with a shorter barrel as a whole. With the longer 20 or more inch heavier profile 6.5 barrel it doesn't have the same feel and not my preference as the balance just feels off. Especially if you have any plans to suppress it.

Bolt lift is harder then I would like but with the short throw it's kinda to be expected.

The stock butt pad and cheek piece are kinda sub par. They are apparently working on a few upgrades.

Not having a forward QD sling attachment from the factory is kinda crap and the ones available aren't the best options.

Overall it's a great platform and I believe it shines the most in the LW 16" 308. Or if you have a LW shorter 6.5 it would be good. I bought it for a LW deer gun and having hopes the 300wsm barrels and bolts come out at some point so I can use it as a high country elk rig. I don't regret the purchase whatsoever. It's not replacing my AI or Cadex guns, but it's not going anywhere either.

 

[jbell]

It does sound like a perfect rifle for a hard condition hunt. Thank you!

 

[lvmike]

Barrel attachment,
I personally would like to see a more robust junction, the action looks a bit "thin" to properly support a heavy barrel. But I have yet to get hands on, so my opinion isn't worth much...

Barrel attachment is comparable to how an AR type barrel attaches with the extra benefit that it is not only drawn into the action face by the barrel nut but pinch fit by a tensioning screw that you can see below the handguard. I'm not an engineer but I have seen a lot of very accurate AR platform rifles and from that have no reason to suspect Qs barrel system will fail to preform.

 

[Raufoss]

I'm concerned with the heavy bolt lift issue some owners are griping about. I hate a heavy bolt lift!

I've played with one at NH PRS match and bolt lift is great.

 

[TorF]

Why do you Americans accept expensive target/match rifles without genuine test targets from the factory?
Buy a Bleiker or G&E and the rifle comes with a 300m test target shot with factory ammo.
Steyr SSG69 match rifles, not P1, came with a 10 shot@300m test target 30+ years ago ( 10 shots within 7.5cm/3" or better with specified factory ammo.)
Every Sauer STR/SSG3000 comes with a test target. Even every $400 qc spare barrel comes with a target with specified factory ammo.
Any shooter, who know nothing about guns, can go to a gunshop and buy a spare barrel with a test target and buy a case of the same ammo and go shoot sub .7moa if he is able to. It's a nobrainer. It's expected performance just like buying an Anschutz 22lr match rifle or a Feinwerkbau air pistol.
Seeing people buying spare qc barrels for rifles like AI without test targets with specified factory ammo is beyond me.

 

[spife7980]

Because I don’t give a shit about whether or not it shoots some shitty or expensive factory ammo at 1 moa.

I choose not to buy a rifle unless they throw in a bunch of cool stickers You know, meaningless trash paper.

 

[MOUNTIC]

Because I don’t give a shit about whether or not it shoots some shitty or expensive factory ammo at 1 moa.

This ^

 

[TorF]

Well, if something shoot well with factory ammo it usually shoots better with handloads..
I don't see any problems, only benefits with factory test targets.

 

[newguy2k3v2]

With a good as machining and manufacturing has gotten it seems like crappy shooting guns are few and far between especially in this price range and here in the days of social media any that don't shoot right and aren't made right tend to get widely known.

I don't see the need for test targets.

I don't remember seeing the Fix marketed as a precision rifle but as a lightweight, ergonomic hunting rifle. It does that very well and as a bonus mine seems to shoot just as good as my SRS.

 

[lennyo3034]

Well, if something shoot well with factory ammo it usually shoots better with handloads..
I don't see any problems, only benefits with factory test targets.

I specify my chambers to shoot the bullet I want to shoot loaded to the length I want to load it. My rifles tend to shoot factory ammo like garbage (if they even chamber) but are lights out with handloads. 1 MOA is not an acceptable standard for me.