Had a pierced primer out of nowhere, now I have creep. Gonna send trigger and the fired case back and I'm just curious at what that's gonna set me back.
How much to fix a TT trigger after pierced primer?
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I have had two TT Diamonds break in a 3 month period. First one was fire forming 6 Dasher with CCI 400 primers (had a couple of CCI 450s fail to fire). A single pierced primer apparently caused the TT to break. They sent a new one. Continued fire forming with cci450s, and a second trigger broke after 150-200 rds. No pierced primer this time. Sent the second one back and they are going to replace it but they did email me and say a pierced primer caused this as well and they aren't going to replace anymore triggers for me.
I'm a little frustrated as I know for a fact the second time there was no primer that was pierced when it broke, and I am beginning to lose faith in the TT diamond. Seriously thinking about trying Bix n Andy at this point.
I'm a little frustrated as I know for a fact the second time there was no primer that was pierced when it broke, and I am beginning to lose faith in the TT diamond. Seriously thinking about trying Bix n Andy at this point.
I had a BnA fail recently, it was the tac sport pro 2 stage. One of the steel balls inside disintegrated after about 300 rounds of 6x47, never had any primers pierce during that time. They replaced it with no mention of why/how within a few days. Im pretty happy with their customer service during the ordeal.
I wondered the same when I reported the issue. Seems like a lot of force required to go back in the pin opening of the bolt, then turn 90 deg down and still have enough juice left to smash the steel ball and not damage anything else in the process. No expert here by any means, but seems to me that amount of energy would likely make something else fail sooner
I’ve pierced a couple primers FFing Dasher and other various 6mms with Diamonds and none of them broke or had issues. Gone through a couple of firing pins but the triggers have been fine.
Is it possible to break a trigger if you close the bolt really hard a bunch of times? I feel like I broke a couple Timnneys like that.
There is never a good reason for a pierced primer. I would venture as far as to say almost negligence. You are blowing over 50,000 psi of hot gases through a hole that is thousanths of an inch in diameter. Think of what happens when you put a standard garden hose on a pressure washer system, and force pressurized water through a small hole? See where I'm going here?
If primers are being pierced, there is a bigger problem. It doesn't matter if X, Y, Z or Acme part holds up to a pierced primer, you are doing damage. The fact that a manufacturer will cover damages incurred from a primer being pierced, speaks volumes of their customer service.
Figure out the bigger problem as to why the primers are piercing and fix the root of the problem, not blame the band aid.
If primers are being pierced, there is a bigger problem. It doesn't matter if X, Y, Z or Acme part holds up to a pierced primer, you are doing damage. The fact that a manufacturer will cover damages incurred from a primer being pierced, speaks volumes of their customer service.
Figure out the bigger problem as to why the primers are piercing and fix the root of the problem, not blame the band aid.
That's what I told the gf but she disagrees. So I just took the bike for a spin, and everything was better when I got back home. We had a bowl of black walnut ice cream and watched some tv. Yup great customer service especially since I told them I DID pierce a primer and was prepared to pay to have my Trigger fixed out of my own pocket but they said they would cover it.
mm509, Can you please explain how getting a pierced primer while fire forming is 'almost negligent?' I have fire formed thousands of Dasher brass from 6br, this was the first time I experienced it. How should I have prevented this from occurring? Is jamming as a means to form Dasher brass inherently dangerous, and negligent?
Don’t get a bix if you’re worried about pierced primers killing your trigger...they have a video on the website that explains how a pierced primer can kill them and break internal parts...doesn’t give much confidence
I know when I first got my AT (Large firing pin) and put a 6 comp match barrel on I pierced a handful of primers fire forming 105s at 2900 fps from a 26” barrel, super mild load...my AI trigger never missed a beat...got the bolt bushed soon after that and cleared up those issues
Nfoley, no disrespect, but piercing primers and continuing to pierce primers is negligent, in my opinion. Not to mention the obvious over pressure of the systems capabilities, one must look at the damage being done to the operational system; breaking triggers, etching firing pins, etc. If primers are piercing, back the load off, or get the firing pin bushed. To continue to do so is pure negligence, you can not change my mind.
I pierced my first (and only) primer after 2000 rounds of a mid node charge on a 6.5 CM. Turns out the cause was a carbon ring I never knew developed. Busted a Jewel as well.
I wouldn’t call it negligence. Ignorance, maybe.
Funny thing is I bought a TT Diamond to keep as a back up just in case. Thought the busted trigger was a Jewel issue. (They charge about $50 for the repair)
I wouldn’t call it negligence. Ignorance, maybe.
Funny thing is I bought a TT Diamond to keep as a back up just in case. Thought the busted trigger was a Jewel issue. (They charge about $50 for the repair)
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I do have a Bix and it's beyond smooth. It stays in my comp rifle. I absolutely love it.
I sure hope TT would cover the repair and return shipping to you. If they don’t, I’d considered looking into a different setup.
