I’m a total noob to the world of building a bolt gun, I would like some information on the steps of building one. How much would you spend on a gunsmith?
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1. Are those actions all Remington 700 pattern?If you can get and use a torque wrench, barrel vise, and action wrench, you can put the pieces together yourself. Start buy buying a modern action that gunsmiths make shouldered prefit barrels for. They make them for the actions that reliably hold tolerances so tight that the gunsmith doesn't need the action in the shop to make a barrel for it. Offhand the actions that prefit barrels are readily available for include Impact 737R, Bighorn Origin and TL3, Terminus Zeus, American Rifle Company actions, Curtis Axiom, Kelby Atlas, Defiance Rukus/Tenacity, and maybe a few others that I forgot.
Once you have the action, order a prefit barrel in your chosen caliber, a trigger (I'd suggest TriggerTech Diamond), and a chassis or stock with installed mini chassis. For chassis, KRG, MDT, and XLR make good chassis. For stocks with mini chassis, you'd be talking about Manners. For barrels, I've had great results ordering prefit barrels from Patriot Valley Arms, Long Rifles Inc., and Southern Precision Rifles (bugholes.com). There are other shops making prefit barrels, but those three are the ones that I have bought barrels from.
To put together, You clamp the barrel in a barrel vise then use the torque wrench and action wrench to screw the barrel onto the action and torque it down. I've found torquing barrels to 60 ft. lbs. works just fine but YMMV. Then you install your muzzle brake (assuming you had the muzzle threaded 5/8x24 which you should), I'd suggest the Patriot Valley Arms brakes, I use them because they work well and don't blast the shooter and neighbors with dirt and gas. Install trigger usually with punch and mallet, then use the torque wrench to bolt the barreled action into the chassis and your ready to go after attaching whatever optic you choose.
Yes1. Are those actions all Remington 700 pattern?
2. Would I need to contact the barrel manufacturer and ask for a barrel made for the specific brand of action?
3. I’m looking for something lightweight, so do you have any opinions on carbon fiber barrels? I’ve heard good things about them.
4. Is 5/8 x 24 the standard muzzle thread for all breaks/barrels?
Application | Indexing Surface | Caliber Usage (XX.XX = mm) | Thread & Socket Drawings |
Rimfire | Muzzle / Shoulder | ≤.220 (≤5.59) | ½-28 - Thread & Socket |
Centerfire Pistol & Revolver | Muzzle / Shoulder | 5.355 (59.02) | ½-28 - Thread & Socket |
Centerfire Pistol & Revolver | Muzzle | >.355 / ≤.395 ($9.02 / ≤10.03) | %16-24 - Thread & Socket |
Centerfire Rifle | Muzzle / Shoulder | 5.225 (≤5.72) | ½-28 - Thread & Socket |
Centerfire Rifle | Muzzle / Shoulder | >225 / 5.305 (>5.72 / 57.75) | ⅝-24 - Thread & Socket |
Centerfire Rifle | Muzzle / Shoulder | >.305 / 5.450 (>7.75 / ≤11.43) | 11/16-24 - Thread & Socket |
Centerfire Rifle | Shoulder | >.305 / s.450 (>7.75 / ≤11.43) | M18 X 1.5 RH - Thread & Socket |
Centerfire Rifle | Muzzle / Shoulder | >.305 / s.450 (57.75/ 511.43) | ¾-24 - Thread & Socket |
Can’t really recommend on over the other but this one is the type that would work, there are quite a few others that also work. As long as they clamp only the steel portion of the barrel.Thank you sir. What sort of barrel vice would I need?
Don't do that to yourself. Savage actions have major reliability issues. If you want a sub $1,000 actions to build on look at Aero Solus, ARC Coup De Grace, and Bighorn Origin for the R700 footprint (all of those are about $900). If even those are a little pricy it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if you built on a Tikka action.I have another question: what is y’all’s opinion of the Savage 110 actions? Proof makes prefit barrels for them and the actions are about $600 not $1400 like the Impacts or LPAs.
Good to know, I guess you get what you pay forDon't do that to yourself. Savage actions have major reliability issues. If you want a sub $1,000 actions to build on look at Aero Solus, ARC Coup De Grace, and Bighorn Origin for the R700 footprint (all of those are about $900). If even those are a little pricy it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if you built on a Tikka action.
How much are the Origins? On Zermatt’s website they say a deposit of $1000 is required before shipping, but nothing about the full pricethe barrel is all the accuracy
the action just determines how nice it feels to run the bolt
that being said. running a smooth action that has a accurate barrel is great. something like a Zermatt Origin that can run normal prefits, an HLR lug for TL3 barrels, and every boltface size aside from a Lapua
no need to waste money on an Impact
Unless I'm misreading something, Origins are $900 for short actions and $1,000 for medium / long actions.How much are the Origins? On Zermatt’s website they say a deposit of $1000 is required before shipping, but nothing about the full price
The barrel, no doubt.Also, would y’all consider the barrel to be more important for accuracy than the bolt/action? I.E. is it better to spend money on the action or the barrel, or keep it pretty even?
I'll echo what the other guy said about Savages in that they aren't as high quality. Spend a few $$ more and get something nice. Not trying to be a gun snob, but if you spend the $$ to get something you know was made right, you'll never have to question whether the action is the problem if you're having problems. You're also going to run into using a barrel nut to get correct headspace which also may not be something you want to mess with on your first build.I have another question: what is y’all’s opinion of the Savage 110 actions? Proof makes prefit barrels for them and the actions are about $600 not $1400 like the Impacts or LPAs.
I think the pivot vs fixed is just about when the primary extraction of the cartridge is happening. So with the "pivot" option, it's happening when you pull the bolt to the rear. Whereas with the fixed option, the primary extraction is happening when you raise the bolt.I’m seeing a “pivot” function on that coup de grace action, what is that? Just something that’s going to break? I tried looking on YouTube but didn’t find anything