How to secure the Presidential elections.

Maggot

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  • Jul 27, 2007
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    I was having a discussion with some guys, one who definitely has lefty leanings. The question came up about photo ID for the elections. We have that here in Virginia. The lefty, kept bringing up that having ID reduces the voter turn out amongst black and Hispanic voters. He came up with some statistics to support his claim. I do believe they are at least partly accurate. After the conversation ended I continued to ponder the question. This is my line of thought.

    -The elections are (one of?) our most cherished and important means to ensuring the smooth transition and continuation of government and our freedom.

    -This country was founded and built by primarily northern European settlers. English, Irish, German (I have people from all those), Swedes, Italian, in the southwest, to some lesser degree Hispanic. Those groups set up the system. Blacks were wrongly imprisoned and brought here. That was wrong, but its history now. they did contribute but mostly in the early stages as labor, not to doctrine.

    -While we have serious problems with our country, contributed to by both sides, Id certainly rather live and participate in this system than any other in Latin America, and surely Africa. Most of the democratic countries in Latin America were fashioned after our system.

    -We surely need to secure the electoral process. Every effort should be made to be all inclusive. If that means reaching out to the minorities, to insure they have valid proof of citizenship, then we need to invest the energy to insure that, and to insure they are comfortable in using it, and not feeling intimidated.

    That all said, I propose the following.

    -Photo Id AND Social Security ID required at the voting stations. Every citizen should have these anyway and be assured of no intimidation. If for some reason they need assistance to the voting p[lace because of age, infirmity, or financial reasons, that should be provided.

    -This one Im less sure of, but perhaps, thumb print.

    Anyone convicted of violations, cheating, or any attempt to throw or illegally influence the election, is guilty of treason and sentenced to life in prison at hard labor.

    Thoughts?
     
    Personally, while I know the gennie is out of the bottle, I would like to go back to a time pre-internet when there was some chance for anonymity. Requiring ID for everyone, including people who don't want to vote is just a huge step toward a big brother nanny state.
     
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    Well blacks and hispanics need ID for banking , alcohol, tax return etc . but it's only an issue when it comes to voting . What am I missing . Oh yeah drivers licesnse .


    My thoughts exactly. You need ID for everything including opening a bank account, buying cigs/alcohol. Why should voting be any different. I would have no problem with free ID to proven citizens. We waste a lot more money than that on BS investigations....
     
    Well blacks and hispanics need ID for banking , alcohol, tax return etc . but it's only an issue when it comes to voting . What am I missing . Oh yeah drivers licesnse .
    interjecting logic into a conversation with any damnorat, libtard, SWJ or whatever you what to call the left, is akin to trying to make a snowball, in hell. They don't have any common sense, nor do they want any spoken around them.

    Their world is going to shit (aka free ride) an they are upon the brink of starting something they will never finish, but will never regret it to their grave. Yes they are that stupid.
     
    How about;

    1- Prove US citizenship and residency in the voting district to register,
    2 - On voting registries that are purged of voters that die, become disqualified or move out of the district prior to each election,
    3 - Prove identity to vote,
    4 - On a paper ballot that can be hand counted for recounts, and
    5 - Cross checking between districts and states to prosecute those who vote more than once.

    The US Constitution under Article 1, Section 4, ppg. 1 provides that Congress has the power to make rules on the manner of Congressional elections, or Article 1, Section 5, ppg.1 each house for it's own chamber. Either chamber could establish such rules and simply not seat the winner of any election not in compliance. When a state doesn't have Congressional representation for an entire term of Congress, they'll see the light. No more cheating.

    On a completely unrelated note, Hester Ford of Charlotte NC celebrated her 113th birthday last week, making her the oldest living person in the country, but 170 voters cast ballots in the recent special election in the Ohio 12th Congressional District that were 116 years old or older!

    I vote in a state that uses electronic voting machines without any paper ballots. If a recount came up with any different result than the original tally, in my my that just proves the invalidity of the entire process. The whole process is unverifiable.

    Joseph Stalin once said, "It doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes." Now, even that doesn't matter, only who writes the software.

    As Ronald Reagan once said, "Trust but verify."

    To the OP, @Maggot, Social Security ID? For real? A non photo ID that even non-citizens get and which the original enabling statute forbids as being used for identification or anything other than Social Security purposes? Hmmm, I would vote No on that point.
     
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    To secure the office;
    No compromise;
    Voter id
    Up penalty for: dui, voter fraud, imported drugs, fix border

    Compromise;
    Legalize weed, protect queer marriage with some legal bs.
    Limit lobbying influence via criminal penalties

    They already have weed. Dope smokers will vote on weed alone. There’s a lot of them.
    Win the dope smokers and fags, that seems to be our biggest demographic anymore and really who gives a shit the what to they do off the street?
     
    interjecting logic into a conversation with any damnorat, libtard, SWJ or whatever you what to call the left, is akin to trying to make a snowball, in hell. They don't have any common sense, nor do they want any spoken around them.

    Their world is going to shit (aka free ride) an they are upon the brink of starting something they will never finish, but will never regret it to their grave. Yes they are that stupid.
    Bingo!