HS Precision Savage stock not perfectly straight

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I have an HS Precision Savage in 308. I noticed that my barrel is much closer to the stock on one side than the other. Has anyone noticed this with theirs? It's not contacting the barrel. It's just a cosmetic issue. The rifle is very accurate. I was just curious if this was common?
 
#2
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I thought I noticed the same thing on my 110 300WM. If it is, it can't be more than 10 mils off to the left because I can barely notice it with my eye.

The great thing about this stock is that there is about 1/8" of free float all the way to the action.

Mine is a 0.5 MOA shooter.
 
#3
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Mine is pretty obvious to the eye if you're looking for it. It used to bother me when I first got it. I mostly got over it with help from the bullet holes always touching.
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I did see one guys wasn't shooting good until he realized the stock was actually touching the barrel. He ground some off and it shot great. I was thinking that maybe they warped a little during the manufacturing process. Are they heated at some point when they are made?
 
#4
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Hey Guys,

One of the main factors is that most actions are not perfectly round and therefore the bedding block kicks off to one side. Over the distance from the block to the forearm it becomes noticeable.
Won't hurt anything unless it touches. I have bedded many to straighten them up. Not hard to bed. Hope this helps.
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Regards, Paul.
 
#5
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I have 3 different HS stocks, and they all run to the side. One is almost perfect, and the other two get kinda worse. I also saw a brand new Rem 700P that had the same issue. As long as the barrel is not touching you are good to go. Just make sure the bolts are torqued to the proper spec, and rock on.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bolt fluter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Guys,

One of the main factors is that most actions are not perfectly round and therefore the bedding block kicks off to one side. Over the distance from the block to the forearm it becomes noticeable.
Won't hurt anything unless it touches. I have bedded many to straighten them up. Not hard to bed. Hope this helps.
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Regards, Paul. </div></div>You bed them to straighten them up because it helps accuracy or just to straighten them up? Thanks
 
#7
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mackdrvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 3 different HS stocks, and they all run to the side. One is almost perfect, and the other two get kinda worse. I also saw a brand new Rem 700P that had the same issue. As long as the barrel is not touching you are good to go. Just make sure the bolts are torqued to the proper spec, and rock on. </div></div>Are you talking about the action screws?
 
#8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mackdrvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 3 different HS stocks, and they all run to the side. One is almost perfect, and the other two get kinda worse. I also saw a brand new Rem 700P that had the same issue. As long as the barrel is not touching you are good to go. Just make sure the bolts are torqued to the proper spec, and rock on. </div></div>Are you talking about the action screws? </div></div>
Sorry. Yes. I went to Sears, and bought a torque wrench just for this reason. It does inch pounds. Crank them down to the right spec, and you will be fine.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mackdrvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mackdrvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 3 different HS stocks, and they all run to the side. One is almost perfect, and the other two get kinda worse. I also saw a brand new Rem 700P that had the same issue. As long as the barrel is not touching you are good to go. Just make sure the bolts are torqued to the proper spec, and rock on. </div></div>Are you talking about the action screws? </div></div>
Sorry. Yes. I went to Sears, and bought a torque wrench just for this reason. It does inch pounds. Crank them down to the right spec, and you will be fine. </div></div>Yes, I have mine at 50 inch pounds. What do you run yours at? I couldn't find anything definitive from Savage on this so I just kinda low balled it. I saw guys running them up to 65 inch pounds so I figured I was still in the safe zone for pressure.
 
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I run my savage's at 60 lbs, one in a HS, and the other in a Choate tactical. I have found quite a few different spec, anywhere from 55 to 65 lbs. My guns shoot quite well torqued to 60.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gathumper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I run my savage's at 60 lbs, one in a HS, and the other in a Choate tactical. I have found quite a few different spec, anywhere from 55 to 65 lbs. My guns shoot quite well torqued to 60. </div></div>Maybe I'll tighten them just a little more. Thanks.
 
#12
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On my Savage 110FCP (HS Precision) 338 LM - I tighten the front two action screws to 40 in/lbs and the rear to 30 in/lbs. Savage recommends 40 in/lbs for this rifle.
 
#13
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mackdrvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mackdrvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 3 different HS stocks, and they all run to the side. One is almost perfect, and the other two get kinda worse. I also saw a brand new Rem 700P that had the same issue. As long as the barrel is not touching you are good to go. Just make sure the bolts are torqued to the proper spec, and rock on. </div></div>Are you talking about the action screws? </div></div>
Sorry. Yes. I went to Sears, and bought a torque wrench just for this reason. It does inch pounds. Crank them down to the right spec, and you will be fine. </div></div>Yes, I have mine at 50 inch pounds. What do you run yours at? I couldn't find anything definitive from Savage on this so I just kinda low balled it. I saw guys running them up to 65 inch pounds so I figured I was still in the safe zone for pressure. </div></div>

65 inch pounds. If I recall correctly HS says to torque them to 65.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: supermag99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On my Savage 110FCP (HS Precision) 338 LM - I tighten the front two action screws to 40 in/lbs and the rear to 30 in/lbs. Savage recommends 40 in/lbs for this rifle. </div></div>You have three? I think one of those screws is just for the magazine, but I've never had a rifle that powerful so I could be wrong. If Savage only recommends 40 in/lbs for that monster then maybe mine are tight enough. This sounds like something I might need to research. Especially if Savage is recommending 40in/lbs and HS Precision is recommending 65in/lbs like mackdrvr says.
 
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Yeah - the 338 LM is a long action (110). It has three action screws so yours may be different. Mine had the torque specs for the stock in the owners manual for the rifle.
 
#16
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: supermag99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah - the 338 LM is a long action (110). It has three action screws so yours may be different. Mine had the torque specs for the stock in the owners manual for the rifle. </div></div>Do you have an owners manual that is specific to your rifle? I got some generic one that has almost every rifle but mine in it.
 
#17
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bolt fluter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Guys,

One of the main factors is that most actions are not perfectly round and therefore the bedding block kicks off to one side. Over the distance from the block to the forearm it becomes noticeable.
Won't hurt anything unless it touches. I have bedded many to straighten them up. Not hard to bed. Hope this helps.
smile.gif


Regards, Paul. </div></div>You bed them to straighten them up because it helps accuracy or just to straighten them up?
Thanks </div></div>

Personally, it drives me crazy, and they always seem to shoot a little better after bedding. Why not kill 2 birds with one stone. Just my .002
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Regards, Paul.
 
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Yeah, it bugs me too. I have to admit that it shoots so good right now I don't know if I'm good enough to notice an improvement. I think that answers my question though. Thanks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Savage 10fp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My m24 stock does too. I was thinking about skim bedding and fixing it then. </div></div>If you do let me know how it goes. I did skim bed mine, but made no attempt to straighten it as I think the stock has a slight curve to it. I'm concerned that any attempt to make it appear straighter will ruin it's superb accuracy.
 
#21
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: supermag99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On my Savage 110FCP (HS Precision) 338 LM - I tighten the front two action screws to 40 in/lbs and the rear to 30 in/lbs. Savage recommends 40 in/lbs for this rifle. </div></div>Sounds like mackdrvr remembered correctly. Might be different for you on account of your rifle being gigantic
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. I wonder what HS Precision would tell you.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2481031
 
#22
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have an HS Precision Savage in 308. I noticed that my barrel is much closer to the stock on one side than the other. Has anyone noticed this with theirs? It's not contacting the barrel. It's just a cosmetic issue. The rifle is very accurate. I was just curious if this was common? </div></div>
They only do that when the BARREL is screwed in off center, had that happen once with my 700VS, I swapped the stock for another 700 and it was fine on the other rifle, the other rifles stock had the gap on one side and none on the other just like the original stock had, I had Chris Matthews bed it to straighten out mainly cuz I didnt like the way it looked. Its not the stocks fault.
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If the barrel was screwed in off center wouldn't that effect accuracy? Also, if the barrel was replaced would that change the appearance and fix the problem?
 
#24
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Relevant thread, thank you.

I've been wondering the same about my H+S Precision stock, one side has a noticeable gap but is not touching. Rifle shoots great
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ripcurlksm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Relevant thread, thank you.

I've been wondering the same about my H+S Precision stock, one side has a noticeable gap but is not touching. Rifle shoots great </div></div>Yeah, it really bugged me when I first got it a couple years ago. Now I'm starting to think that they are all a little warped which makes me feel better. It makes sense to me that if they baked them during the manufacturing process some warping would be normal during the cooling process. Of course, since I have no idea how they actually make them, I'm basically just making crap up because it sounds good to me.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the barrel was screwed in off center wouldn't that effect accuracy? Also, if the barrel was replaced would that change the appearance and fix the problem? </div></div>
My 700VS 223 shoots pretty good for having a barrel screwed in to the left I believe it is, as long as the chamber was reamed in straight it should shoot good, mine shoots 3/4MOA out to 300yds.
 
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So then if the barrel was the only thing off center it could be corrected by putting another barrel on straight right? Or is it not that simple? I've never changed a barrel. Would the next one just be off center too?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JGorski</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Youd have to have your receiver threads rethreaded id imagine. </div></div>Makes sense.
 
#30
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JGorski</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the barrel was screwed in off center wouldn't that effect accuracy? Also, if the barrel was replaced would that change the appearance and fix the problem? </div></div>
My 700VS 223 shoots pretty good for having a barrel screwed in to the left I believe it is, as long as the chamber was reamed in straight it should shoot good, mine shoots 3/4MOA out to 300yds. </div></div>What you're saying is logical and would be a good explanation for this misalignment. However, I have the advantage of being able to see my stock. If I stand behind it I can see that it is not straight. I can't rule out what you're saying as a possibility, but it would have to be in addition to the stock already not being straight which would make it only partially responsible and an unlikely coincidence. Also, since this seems to be a pretty common trait on the HS Precision Savage it seems unlikely to me the the guy putting in the barrels wouldn't have been caught drinking buy now. He's been getting away with putting barrels on crooked for years.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Had a similar problem with my Savage and posted the below topic. Some good reading on the issue....

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...104#Post3063104 </div></div>That was interesting. Thanks. I think I'm gonna leave mine alone. I'm not going to pretend it doesn't bother me, but I can't possibly make it shoot any better. All I can do is make it shoot worse and then be upset at myself for screwing up a great shooting rifle.
 
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